Are the ILLUMINATI Agents of ALIENS ? Are Occult Mystery Religions Demonic Control Mechanisms ?

The ILLUMINATI Are Agents of ALIENS ? Is their Occult Mystery Religion a Demonic Control System ?

Are the Illuminati Alien Agents ?

This thread is intended to explore the possibility that THE ILLUMINATI, who run our secular Earthly world from their organized networks, both visible and invisible, and manipulate mankind's destiny, are in fact AGENTS of an ALIEN PLAN to control and invade our planet.



We will denote that there has been throughout history a small caste of rulers who have openly proclaimed themselves either "Descendants of the GODS" or the ordained direct"Representatives of GOD" on Earth.


They have traditionally chosen to call themselves Kings, Queens, Pharaohs, Emperors, Caesars, Princes or Dukes. Since the advent of an organized Illuminati group they have changed their name to Generalissimo, Dictator, Chairman, Premier or President.


After permeating Freemasonry, legislatures and parliaments, armies and churches, news media and the arts, they manipulated the French Revolution and infiltrated the founding of the United States of America. George Washington warned of their .


What appears today, is that the Illuminati also operate in Bloodlines, many of them being the legitimate or bastard offspring of royal lineages. While this was usually construed by historians investigating such heredity to be due to either people of high station discretely helping their unofficial descendants or th, e latter working in the shadows of anonymity to advance the interests of their secret family, they might be wrong.


The science of genealogy is considered of the highest importance by most Royal and Aristocratic families. And this may not just be to determine who gains access to the throne or is entitled to titles and their associated lands in inheritance. It is a science which studies of the genetic heritage of an individual's blood, the degree of loftiness or level of nobility of one's inherited DNA.


For this reason, that of Aristocratic Genetics, meaning Rule by the Best Genes, we must be very prudent in examining the ancient and more recent history of our Rulers and contemporary Illuminati handlers.


First, we might legitimately ask WHY should a certain DNA entitle one to rule over others ? This will lead directly to consider the validity of many historical claims of colonial superiority, Hitlerian master race as well as the New Age concept of Majestic 12 Scientists designing the best future for mankind.


Secondly, what is the Best DNA and who says so ? This has an even more shocking implications, ranging from moderate preventive eugenics to mass genocide. The acting principle being the same, it is only the degree of extension which changes.


Thirdly, who is really behind such an endeavor, are they human, demonic or ALIEN ?


We can observe a great many elements in ancient history the world over linking the rulers of antiquity to Alien visitors, or Gods, or Angels. These are in numerous accounts ranging from mythological texts derived from oral tradition, religious scriptures, artistic representations and geological or archeological evidence.


Also, we can denote that there has been, throughout humanity's known history, the a Religious Cult of Idols or Spirit Entities accompanied by practices of blood letting and human sacrifice. In nations or societies where this has not been official usage we find the presence of many assorted sects or secret organizations engaged in Occult Mystery Religions involving demonic possession and human sacrifice.


There has therefore been a CONTINUITY throughout our history of either official religions or "underground" cults which have maintained a devotion to NON HUMAN ENTITIES.


In former times, these cults were sometimes opposed by preachers who warned against associating with demons, venerating entities or using symbolic representations for magical purposes. Opposition was at times organized into a ban on heresy and a combat against those forces considered Evil.


What now appears to have taken place, through the extension of underground groups organized within secret societies, secret services and secret governmepnts, is the final phases of a master plan which was leaked from the founding minutes of the Bilderberg Group some years back in which they state that THEY ARE ALIENS on page 5 of the following document: [b\i]This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came..


Illuminati Secret Covenant

THE SECRET COVENANT

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.

Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.

Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood.

We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

So should we really wonder why Bill Gates loves Vaccines ?





"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent... If you gave me only one wish... I could pick the vaccine which is something I love..."


We are no longer in the realm of conjecture or deductive analysis. What many of us have seen shining through his thinly veiled genetically selective vaccinations through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is nothing other than a Population Reduction Agenda. Equally interesting is his admission that there is an effort to "do a really great job" in Health Care which should lead to population reduction. What is left to be considered is just how many people are involved in this ALIEN AGENDA to reduce our population. He is speaking openly to a large auditorium and isn't bothering to conceal his intent and isn't mincing his words or hiding them in ambiguous remarks. It smacks of End Game arrogance, where self-satisfied overconfidence rules. Were there any real Justice served by an genuine International Court for Crimes Against Humanity all of the richest man in the world's money couldn't save him.


Google, Microsoft and Cisco are Complicit with Big Brother



Here is a link to a direct download of the Big Brother Law Enforcement Sensitive Documents called the Microsoft Windows 7 Spying Guide in .PDF format.


To conclude, The ILLUMINATI Are Agents of ALIENS !

I love threads like this. The absolute abandonment of any sort of critical thinking is astounding.

S & F. Looks like you've struck a nerve, GS, to already get a nasty comment from someone.

Anyway, when I saw the following, I, of course, thought of the Reptilian/Illuminati Covenant.

Originally posted by Getsmart
This thread is intended to explore the possibility that THE ILLUMINATI, ... are in fact AGENTS of an ALIEN PLAN to control and invade our planet.

This section of the Covenant is particularly pertinent to the topic of complicity:

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.

Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

I have come to the conclusion based on much research that there is a dark alien agenda afoot, & some of our so-called "leaders" are in cahoots with them.



[edit on 7-3-2010 by someotherguy]

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
I love threads like this. The absolute abandonment of any sort of critical thinking is astounding.

So the illuminati are aliens?
Well, there isn't a single thing we can do to stop it, then.

Anyways, that secret covenant was a well published [HOAX] proved about 2 years ago. Sorry. But that's not the "official" covenant.

If there even was one, you wouldn't be able to read about it.

Trust me. Good read though.

PS: I am not knocking this thread. I'd say demonic before alien. IMO.

But there is a site with this entire covenant posted from 2004 here.
Actually the site has a bunch of info that has been passed around this site for years too.
Check it out.




[edit on 7-3-2010 by havok]

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
I love threads like this. The absolute abandonment of any sort of critical thinking is astounding.

I love when people like you make retarded comments like this. Just a snide comment yet with nothing to disprove anything here. Wonderful post. Thanks for adding absolutely nothing to it then.

[edit on 7-3-2010 by RyannVonDoom]

I may be wrong, but I am thinking what he means by saying that if they do a great job they can lower it by 10-15% is, if they do a great job they may be able to lower the carbon footprint in the respective fields by 10-15%.

Afterwards which he makes the remark that it would raise the total by about 1.3. Does he mean that doing a great job in those fields would raise population by another 1.3billion? Possibly, and if that is the case it can hardly be said that he is an advocate for genocide.

I may be wrong as it is late here and I only watched the video once. I will watch it again tomorrow and make a change if it seems wrong.

reply to post by Getsmart


G'day Getsmart

Exactly!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by havok
So the illuminati are aliens?
Well, there isn't a single thing we can do to stop it, then.

So you recommend a hands up surrender to an Alien Invasion ?


There isn't a single trace of logic to your above statement.

Originally posted by havok
Anyways, that secret covenant was a well published [HOAX] proved about 2 years ago. Sorry. But that's not the "official" covenant.

If there even was one, you wouldn't be able to read about it.

Trust me. Good read though.

PS: I am not knocking this thread. I'd say demonic before alien. IMO.

But there is a site with this entire covenant posted from 2004 here.
Actually the site has a bunch of info that has been passed around this site for years too.
Check it out.

I did check it out and here is what you consider Proof of a HOAX.

"MY REPLY
Thank you for sending The Secret Covenant.

Since you requested my opinion, it is that this document is not authentic. I believe it is a fairly accurate summary of what is really happening in our world, and it may correctly expresses the dark motives of the highest masters who pursue such plans, but it is highly unlikely that any of them would describe their agenda with such self-condemning language.

If they ever put such a plan into print (which would be foolish of them), the language would be couched and self-serving, making every act seem justified and wise.

I believe this piece was written by some well-intentioned soul who wanted to use it to convince his friends of the truth of what he has been telling them all along. It is similar to The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion that has circulated among pro-freedom groups for over fifty years.

The Protocols express an almost identical blueprint but portends to be written by Jewish conspirators. However, as you pointed out in your message, only those who are already aware of a hidden hand in world affairs will have any basis for understanding these documents - and even those justifiably will question their validity.

There are plenty of authentic documents and elements of verifiable history to prove almost everything stated in The Secret Covenant.

We do not need to invent anything to make our friends take notice. We should stick with the verifiable record rather than rely on documents that cannot be authenticated. Anonymous sources almost always weaken our case.

Thank you for requesting my analysis. I hope you agree with it.

Ed Griffin"

- Firstly, I didn't need nor request his analysis, and just because somebody else did who cares? And to respond to his published rebuttal of the Secret Covenant, I cannot in any sense agree with his flawed elementary logic which grants higher authority to likelihood of the use of certain forms of language than to factual references, while supposing an infallible higher intelligence of these evil doers which he manifestly holds in high esteem.

- Secondly, after considerable life experience and geo-political knowledge it isn't Mr. Griffin whom I'd consider an expert. He claims he received this document from an anonymous woman mailed from an defunct email address. We are to take this on faith, and read his implausible expert reply to this mystery person who allegedly outsourced her own beliefs about such an important issue into the hands of another individual.

- Thirdly, it has been repeatedly alleged by whisle-blowers and defectors, and this with significant coincidental recurrence to demonstrate such a pattern, that the Illuminati give open warnings of their acts and intents so as to avert the Karma which might be associated with their misdeeds. This alone can attest to the plausible reality of both the Protocols and the Covenant as being genuine documents.

- Fourthly, the Protocols of Zion are not in any way contradictory of the Illuminati Covenant. However it is important to read it considering that at issue is not Judaism nor honorable Jews, but a small fringe of Zionists who consider themselves to be descendants of the original Hebrew tribes and whose genetic lineages can be traced to the European Royal Families and their associated Illuminati illegitimate offspring.


* Note: As you seem bent on disputing this thread's premises, I invite you to do further personal research on the subject, given we have more important tasks to accomplish here than to enhance retrograde thinkers' learning curves. Take this thread with a grain of salt and please cease the debunking.



[edit on 8-3-2010 by Getsmart]

Originally posted by esteay812
I may be wrong, but I am thinking what he means by saying that if they do a great job they can lower it by 10-15% is, if they do a great job they may be able to lower the carbon footprint in the respective fields by 10-15%.

Afterwards which he makes the remark that it would raise the total by about 1.3. Does he mean that doing a great job in those fields would raise population by another 1.3billion? Possibly, and if that is the case it can hardly be said that he is an advocate for genocide.

I may be wrong as it is late here and I only watched the video once. I will watch it again tomorrow and make a change if it seems wrong.

Hi Esteasy812,


Thanks for bringing this interpretation factor up, for it is important that it be clarified without delay. I shall quote his statement with the missing element which brought on your comment. I had erroneously thought it superfluous when transcribing his speech. Also let us remember that he is a math oriented "techie" as exemplified when he says "this equation has 4 factors, a little bit of multiplication..." and refers to high school algebra. Such a bent clearly implies that he will NOT refer to something as a multiplier if it is supposed to be a percentage.


"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps ten or fifteen percent. But there we see an INCREASE of about one point three."


NOTE: he does not say 1.3 percent, but an increase of 1.3 which means in mathematical terms that the original number has been multiplied by that factor:


6,800,000,000 * 1.3 = 8,840,000,000


He states that the world population should rise to a level slightly shy of 9 billion people. If you use grade school math you get 8.84 billion, which just happens to be shy of his figure of 9 billion.


He says that we could lower the population of 6.8 billion by 10 or 15% which can only refer to between 680 million and 1 billion provoked deaths.


Should you remain skeptical that these are preliminary steps to mass genocide, I invite you to run a search with the words vaccination AIDS genocide bioterror WHO "swine flu" for starters. Also you may want to read the Georgia Guidestones to learn what type of entities we are dealing with.


Can we consider this is possible ? Would the Illuminati wish to program in the short term a billion murders ? This might be a low estimate if we are to give credence to what a former Government Health Official from Finland has to say.


"The target is to get rid of so many people as possible, and to get as much money for them as possible."


Former Chief Medical Officer in Finland Dr Rauni Kilde




[edit on 8-3-2010 by Getsmart]

Why are these aliens so poetic and complicated? They make earth seem like its so precious, when it is simply just a "mote of dust suspended on a sunbeam."

Secondly, if they wanted to take over the world, they should have just waltzed in as gods and fool everyone permanently before people discovered science and reason.

Also, These things look as if they were deliberately to scare the reader, except they want to hide it from every audience. Lol.

The best way for anythiing to stay hidden, is to condition the population to deny its existance...

most anyone who instantly blocks this sort of discussion with a "i have never seen one" "this has no logic"- are speaking out of an immediate wall of fear and denial- the fear that this sort of thing might be true

i know from personal experience. i denied these topics for years, was the first to respond with those arguments- but i realized later it was just fear, fear that what i was blocking what might be true. if i built a wall and tried to punish anyone who brought the subject up, then it might go away and i would never have to think about it

things changed. experiences made me unable to deny anymore. the walls broke down, and all that was previously being hidden began to get revealed.

so to those trying to question and understand- don't feel rejected with attacks- know why those attacks come- i was once an attacker myself

...but things change...seeing occurs

Hi Hermes8,


Thanks for sharing your experience. Knowing in the flesh a number of these things since early childhood (some of us get a rough start) reticence was not something I realized could be so gripping. Now that you've explained this, it helps to better differentiate alternative motives for posts which ridicule or discredit a thread. I guess TPTB don't even need hired debunkers when embedded conditioning of the masses serves that purpose indirectly, with no other prompting needed than a contrasting perspective.



Hi Banana Sam,


You bring up some valid points which I will try to address.

Originally posted by bananasam
Why are these aliens so poetic and complicated? They make earth seem like its so precious, when it is simply just a "mote of dust suspended on a sunbeam."

Whether something is precious or not depends entirely on a being granting it importance. Who know why Aliens, of which we know precious little, are complicated, poetic or attached to invading our little "mote of dust".

Originally posted by bananasam
Secondly, if they wanted to take over the world, they should have just waltzed in as gods and fool everyone permanently before people discovered science and reason.

Some researchers in ancient history and scripture have interpreted them as having done exactly that.

Originally posted by bananasam
Also, These things look as if they were deliberately to scare the reader, except they want to hide it from every audience. Lol.

Your statement is from the perspective that since you are reading it, it was deliberately written for you to read. From what I understand and tend to conclude, "these things" were not initially intended for human eyes, but for those who find that ending human life isn't their concern, not considering themselves the target.


While it may have been intended to be hidden, it is quite possible that once the mechanism had been engaged beyond what they estimated was the Point of No Return they went on to leak it so that they would be spared the vengeance of the souls they would murder.


Obviously, it wouldn't make sense to normal folks who haven't had to grapple with such issues stemming from centuries of culling populations and herding a human slave race.



[edit on 8-3-2010 by Getsmart]

Originally posted by Getsmart
So you recommend a hands up surrender to an Alien Invasion ?

I'm not going to take this in a good way.
[facepalm]
You better worry more about a gov't invasion. That's more "probable".

There isn't a single trace of logic to your above statement.

Logicstics aside, I wasn't trying to be a wise-cracker. Thank you.
Why would you even think there is logic in a rhetorical statement?
I'm not stabbing at your beliefs, so relax.

Oh yeah and I never typed that source to be my proof of this [HOAX].
I said that I found the exact covenant from 2004. Actually 2003.
This is old news.

* Note: As you seem bent on disputing this thread's premises, I invite you to do further personal research on the subject, given we have more important tasks to accomplish here than to enhance retrograde thinkers' learning curves. Take this thread with a grain of salt and please cease the debunking.

Debunking? Come on. What tasks are you going to accomplish?
You are going to stop an 'alien invasion?'. Even if it happens, I don't think sitting behind your PC throwing 3 syllable words around will help at all.
There's no more research needed. That covenant is a [HOAX].

Getsmart, I wasn't attacking your views, so don't be on the defensive.
I enjoy alot of your threads. I just think this is an old topic.
Maybe I should of clarified my original intent.

There are alot of differentiating opinions on this site and for you to make what seems to be an outstanding claim, already made by others, as I proved with my source, lacks originality and genuine research in itself.

Please, get smart.

Originally posted by bananasam
... if they wanted to take over the world, they should have just waltzed in as gods and fool everyone permanently before people discovered science and reason.

At the risk of boring the guardians of conspiracy theory history with "old news". here is one interpretation of why we may be getting conflicting signals between todays Alien manifestations and those from more ancient times - - starting at minute 6:00>

Originally posted by havok
Debunking? Come on. What tasks are you going to accomplish?
You are going to stop an 'alien invasion?'. Even if it happens, I don't think sitting behind your PC throwing 3 syllable words around will help at all.
There's no more research needed.

It seems as though you like Wreak your own pen name Havok in much the same way I like to Getsmart.


By the way, where did I say I was going to stop an Alien invasion ? The assumption that I would prefer to not have the Earth invaded by Aliens isn't exactly the same thing as a claim to be able to defeat them myself.


My thread titles is in the interrogative form, seeking useful insight from other members while posting my own non definitive interpretation of the Illuminati. While it might not knock you socks off for originality, these are the ideas to which my own research has led me without needing condescending instructions to get with it and do my homework. Possibly due to a technocratic reliance on compilation or cumulation it may not dawn on you that there are other avenues of inquiry than simply filing away factoids from other sources ?


Before the next onslaught of disrespect, which says more about your attitude than my competence, please be informed that my personal research is primarily personal, and thus not subject to your compliance requirements. Furthermore it happens to rely upon a body of knowledge and experience to which you are not privy and possibly engages logical processes which you may not be accustomed to practicing.


This thread is in the form of 2 questions and thus has a dual purpose.So far only the first aspect has been initially examined. The second question will be interesting to address in order to envisage any potential ties between the occult and Aliens, given that the ties existing between the Illuminati and hermetic mystery cults have been brought to evidence to many by independent researchers and to me in my own life experience which, while having no hold on other's perceptions definitely affects mine.


So in the future, instead of flippant criticism of my posts which may annoy you, please be so kind to instead grace us with your learned wisdom by sharing clear information or understanding regarding the two topics primarily discussed in this dedicated thread:

- relations between the Illuminati and Aliens

- demon worship and dimensional entity possession


Thanks!


GS


[edit on 8-3-2010 by Getsmart]

So, I've come to believe that we're dealing with some inter-dimensional beings that have been called "demons" in the past. They can be quite nasty, & have no qualms about kicking someone out of their body if it suits them. I pretty much agree with David Icke, except I'm not sure about these beings looking like big lizards. I think they manifest human bodies (or take one over), & look just like everyone else, except maybe having black eyes or something like that. But I could be wrong about that.







David Icke Newsletter Preview - 30th May 2009:

THE LION AND THE LAMB? …

… WHY NOT?

The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out On Sunday

The Reptilians created the hybrid bloodlines as vehicles for themselves, but there has also been mass genetic manipulation of the human population as a whole to turn humanity into something akin to ‘ants’ who answer to the ‘Queen’. They have been downloading their mind to us and created a human ‘hive mind’ connected to their ‘central control’ system.

Don Juan, the shaman source for the books of Carlos Castaneda, was so right when he said:

‘We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don’t do so … indeed we are held prisoner!

They took us over because we are food to them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them.

Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradictions between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of belief, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil; our social mores. They are the ones who set up our dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predator who makes us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal.

In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver-stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist; a horrendous maneuver from the point of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind. The predators’ mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now.'

Why can so much human behaviour be likened to ants or sheep? You have your answer. The hive mind also dictates our sense of reality and creates the firewalls of perception that have limited the range of frequencies that humans could see before the Reptilian intervention.

Project Camelot interview w/ Ricardo Silva at www.projectcamelot.org...

... RS: So I don’t have to introduce the astral, right? So I’m coming back and... Let’s see. I’m coming like this side, at this angle, into my body, like this over here. And as I’m over here, guess what I cross? A lizard!

And oh my goodness! If you want something to really scare you! I mean, you look one of those things in the eye, it’s enough... I didn’t sleep for about a week!

And I just happened to cross right in front of him. I suppose it was a “him”. And it was about, gosh, six and a half or seven feet tall, probably 250 pounds, more muscles than you can... Like muscle from everywhere. But it’s a lizard!

It’s like when you watch the Star Trek shows and you see one of these lizard creatures. This one didn’t look like anything in Star Trek but it would nonetheless fit that description. And I didn’t even know what to call it. I’m using the word “lizard” now.

And, as I come into my body, I’m looking at it and it is looking at me. And I get inside my body. And I open up my physical eyes, and I stand up in my bed, and it’s here in 3D, in this reality. It’s in front of me in my bedroom, face to face, for about a second.

I swear my heart stopped. Because that thing, just by looking at you, I think it’s like probably enough to kill you, just... the look is so intimidating.

And then it shifted. I suppose it shifted back to the dimension that it was traveling on and it disappeared. I swear, I didn’t sleep for weeks after I saw that...

KC: OK. Well, I’ve seen one, too. And I was partly in a meditation or something. And I didn’t believe in them. I didn’t believe they exist.

RS: Well, after that you do!

KC: It went right by me. [makes noise of quick movement] I was completely amazed. And it had wings.

RS: It had wings?

KC: And it was gigantic.

RS: If this thing had wings, I was past the point of noticing that. [laughter]

KC: I was not about... It was there and it wanted me to see it. That’s all I know.

RS: It wanted you to see it...

KC: You see, they’re not all bad. Apparently there are some with these others, good...

RS: I didn’t feel that this thing was bad.

KC: But you wouldn’t want to mess with it, on the other hand. I mean...

RS: A creature that can travel between dimensions, you don’t want to deal with.

All religions are Demonic Control Mechanisms

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Sorry, but no time to read your entire post. But will do as soon as I come back from picking up me girl from work.

But yes that is what I beleve, sort of.
Bases on Biblical scipture, you can say Satan worshiping Illuminati use aliens to win the war that is about to take place in the M.E.

More on that later.

A star for you buster!

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Well there could be a less prosiac interpretation of the royal gene explanation. Consider this the royals are fabulously rich. However they really are not anything special to look at. The british royal family is not particular intelligent or talented. Suppose all of this royal gene talk and noble birth is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to fool we who must work into believing that they are special when clearly they are not.

Some more info about these beings we might be dealing with.

Alex Collier on Reptilian Rulers



Collier discussing Draconians



Barry King on Repts - CSETI Disclorure