Moon Matrix by David Icke

Originally posted by MIngleson
Aliens do live on the Moon what looks like black spots on the Moon to us are actually Alien Bases where a black orb UFO comes out of one black spot and flies to another black spot and back out again at the end of the black spots which are in the centre of the Moon.

Sighted by me on 30th March 2010.

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amen to this...and since golden boy was asking for some evidence, much obliged and hopes he enjoys...there are lots of them there...feel free to google moon...

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow


Dont feel bad...Many are thoroughly convnced Alex Jones is a Zionist NWO schill sometimes even mentioning Vatican involvement.

If this is true then the following is true

So is ATS, GLP, Rense, Project Camelot, Jim Marrs, Texxe Marrs, Cooper, Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Nick Begich, and every other conspiracy (fact or fiction) presenter on the face of the planet.

Here is something to think about or reexamine.
What if everyone is involved in the disinfo campaigns collectively. Some know they are involved and are on payroll and perks and some are unaware they are spreading disinfo. (This is only the Conspiracy Theory based information not including mainstream) WHat if none of it is real,,,no not any of it

beLIEve the LIE

GENESIS 3:22: Behold, the man has become as one of "US" to know what is good and what is evil.

God forbid if we ever get hold of the Tree of Life to live forever being KNOW IT ALLs

The truth of the matter...Good and Evil is an illusion as soon as we realize this we will find we were never banished from the garden and God the creator was always there trying to wake us up.
All that you think is GOOD and EVIL is all made up in your head thus you create GOOD and EVIL and everyone is responsible for everyone doing either or. Thats right...you,, the one that is condemning that man of murder calling for justice and that mans punishment is responsible for tha MURDER as well, even though you didnt commit the murder yourself personally. Same for GOOD. Anything you deem as Good, that man you said was Evil and committed MURDER is responsible for that GOOD as well. Even though he did no good in your eyes.

Everyone is in for a rude awakening soon. The more truth you can swallow that you fight with all your might now will determine how difficult this rude awakening will be on you.

God created us in his image (Ability to Create not just being spirit),
Condemn your neighbor of rape, murder, sex crimes, mass murder, stealing, adultery, cruelty, evil...you to have committed these acts as well and stand condemned. I dont care if you think you did it or not. The fact remains...YOU DID it as well even if you were in Church that day minding your own business.

TRUTH goes deeper and beyond Religion, Science, Philosophy , and Psychology


What does this have to do with the MOON? Everything.
Everything is interconnected whether you call it good or evil. Thats right...You did what Hitler did and so did I, you did what you say those evil people did on 911 and so did I...Resist it all you want...

Truth is Truth

So careful naysaying. Looking back on all the naysayers through history that said...Flight was absurd, space flight was absurd....the notion the earth is round is absurd, earth revolving around the sun is absurd, going to the moon is fantasy, sending satelites to gather data on Jupiter is assanine, water on Mars is just not plausible, Huge craft hovering in the air over the Gulf of Mexico that are 1.5 miles long is silly, Reptilians....what lunacy..bahhhh bahhhh humbug...NONSENSE..as you smoke your pipe trying to look smart.

" All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and, Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

Never truer words spoken.Icke has stated time and time again in his books ect that ,"take what you want from this information, you do not have to believe every thing i say", he has also said on numerous occasions that he could not give a flying feck what people think or say about him.We can demand evidence in all sorts of formats and it is human nature to do so and especially in the things Icke is attacking or saying but IF he truly did experienced some sort of profound life changing spiritual perceptions by a non human intelligence on this world we experience then maybe just maybe he IS very close to the real nature of truth of this world we all experience in and the true origins of the real manipulators of the past ,present and future oppressors of humanity.

Originally posted by -Blackout-
David Icke is an extremist when it comes to the UFO subject. Anyone who believes that world leaders etc are Lizardmen is on crack, period. He honestly gives Ufology a bad bad name. Its people like him that make honest and genuine Ufologist look like crackpots.

Blackout.....

It is self evident that Icke is a very nasty character who doesn't care who he damages in his pursuit of money & fame.

David Icke.....Ufology’s Worst Ambassador

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not

It is self evident that Icke is a very nasty character who doesn't care who he damages in his pursuit of money & fame.

Has he been prosecuted for fraud? Or successfully sued for those "damages" which you allege he inflicts?

You sometimes seem to imply that he is a fraudster, have you the court ruling to prove it?

Sounds like you're just jealous of the fame and wealth accrued by Mr Icke. Perhaps you are against the voluntary exchange of ideas for money....

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Wow. So you've basically funneled the belief in God into your raging narcissism!

Good job, bro!

reply to post by Exuberant1


Exuberant1.....

As I have stated on myriad occasions.....

Like all decent people, I am against gullible people being ripped off by nasty characters such as Icke, who also don't care who they damage during the process of ripping such people off.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

Like all decent people, I am against gullible people being ripped off by nasty characters such as Icke, who also don't care who they damage during the process of ripping such people off.

Well then, who has successfully sued him for damages?

How can you say he has damaged anyone when you cannot provide proof that he has done so?

Your credibility is at stake here.

You have one final opportunity to produce proof of your claim.

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Ex1.....

This has been addressed at length in my previous Icke thread.

Please revert to the material in that thread.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

Ex1.....

This has been addressed at length in my previous Icke thread.

Please revert to the material in that thread.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Hi MMN hope you are well.The questions i am going to ask you is nothing personal against you or is in any way intended to attack you personally.

Right first of all i will say that in the past Icke has on occasions challenged several people to have an open debate or even a challenge in court to their attacks of him being a fraud and liar and a " only in it for the money" parasite. There was one man who tried to basically shut down Icke and even tried to hasve his publication rights for his books and future books taken way from him, this man failed and was shown to be no very human rightist;
His name was Human rights lawyer Richard Warman.

Human rights lawyer Richard Warman, working at the time for the Canadian Green Party and later for the Canadian Human Rights Commission, took credit for much of this in an interview with Jon Ronson for the latter's documentary about the Canadian tour, David Icke, the Lizards and the Jews (2001), in which Ronson catalogues the cancelled radio interviews and book signings that Warman appears to have engineered.[73] In response, Icke's Children of the Matrix (2001) reportedly accused Warman of being an Illuminati "gatekeeper," and of working to stop the exposure of child abuse, which triggered a lawsuit from Warman.[74] According to Maclean's, Warman issued libel notices to Canadian public libraries that he would include them in his action if they did not remove Children of the Matrix from their shelves. The B.C. Libraries Association cited the notices on an Internet database of censorship attempts, which attracted another libel warning from Warman. To settle it, the Association agreed to remove quotes from Icke's book from its website.[75]

source;
en.wikipedia.org...


Right now for my questions to you, would you challenge Icke either in an open debate face to face or even in a court of law to prove BEYOND doubt that , ICKE as you have said is a nasty, fraudulent and money making manipulator.Would you feel confidant in your evidence that it would be enough to prove him outright as nasty raudulent and money making, would your thread you have on him contain enough evidence to convince a court of law or open public debate.Would you succeed where Human rights lawyer Richard Warman failed, that is to have Icke banned from speaking in most nations and not just Canada , to gain permission from courts of law that could ban him from publishing his works again or have his books removed for book shops ect and hit him so hard in the pocket that he could no longer afford to pay for his publishers to print any future books.

The main points of my questions are based on my keen interests in the perceptions of the notion's of" freedom of speech" and of course analytical evidence and its informational gathering or put it short my love of the battles of "defence" an "prosecution "debates.Again i am not attacking you or you views that you hold on Icke but rather from a perspective of interest in the "defence" and "prosecution" debate , i just love films also that are based on true life court cases, hope this explains my questions to you, cheers in advance.

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K-PAX-PROT.....

In view of the fact you have addressed the material in my thread, I prefer to discuss it therein so as to enable convenient access to the material therein.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by K-PAX-PROT

Right now for my questions to you, would you challenge Icke either in an open debate face to face or even in a court of law to prove BEYOND doubt that , ICKE as you have said is a nasty, fraudulent and money making manipulator.Would you feel confidant in your evidence that it would be enough to prove him outright as nasty fraudulent and money making, would your thread you have on him contain enough evidence to convince a court of law or open public debate

Given MMN's inability to provide any evidence that Icke has successfully been sued for damages or fraud - both of which MMN alleges that Icke inflicts - whilst here, I doubt it.

K- PAX,

What do you think - If Icke decided to sue MMN for Slander or Libel, do you think he would be successful?

....Because if Icke is not a fraudster as MMN has claimed him to be, then that would be a lie and certainly libelous.

Fools like Icke are so lucky to have legions of ravenous, ignorant supporters that will defend his complete nonsense for him. I'm jealous.I wish I could totally make stuff up and have people jump on the internet and defend my honor, lol.

There is a major problem with this subject, and it isn't folks like Icke. It's all the people that lack common sense, reason and logic enough to actually give the moron an audience at all.

Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by K-PAX-PROT

Right now for my questions to you, would you challenge Icke either in an open debate face to face or even in a court of law to prove BEYOND doubt that , ICKE as you have said is a nasty, fraudulent and money making manipulator.Would you feel confidant in your evidence that it would be enough to prove him outright as nasty fraudulent and money making, would your thread you have on him contain enough evidence to convince a court of law or open public debate

Given MMN's inability to provide any evidence that Icke has successfully been sued for damages or fraud - both of which MMN alleges that Icke inflicts - whilst here, I doubt it.

K- PAX,

What do you think - If Icke decided to sue MMN for Slander or Libel, do you think he would be successful?



....Because if Icke is not a fraudster as MMN has claimed him to be, then that would be a lie and certainly libelous.

Hi , while i think that the external quote i have included is important and i have no real evidence or damning proof that Icke is or was a fraudulent, money making nasty parasite and on what little i have studied or read on Ickes work i would say if there is no real evidence presentable of fraud ect that would be accepted in any court of law or a open public debate then speculations of such a nature of attacking someone in a character assassination format is not justified or clever.People have different perceptions,views and opinions of others and i am no different but when it comes to serious personal character assassination attacks on someone based on speculations ect one should really make sure its a 100%water tight case for prosecution and that the evidence is clear and precise that is being presented .

Officials at various libraries around the greater Vancouver area say that Icke's books are almost perpetually in high demand and that they have received no complaints from the general public or special interest groups regarding the Englishman's tomes.

link;

www.davidicke.com...

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Ex1.....

if Icke is not a fraudster

"If Icke is not a fraudster", the world is run by reptilian alien shapeshifters.

Regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Fools like Icke are so lucky to have legions of ravenous, ignorant supporters that will defend his complete nonsense for him. I'm jealous.I wish I could totally make stuff up and have people jump on the internet and defend my honor, lol.

Oh come now, I'm sure you could make stuff up.

It just has to be interesting and captivating. If that fails, pull a Bill Cooper and wrap yourself in the Flag and talk about how great you are and how the government is with the NWO during your talks.

You could do it under a false name and give talks with names like "Underneath the Clothing of Reality" and they could be based of some entertaining crap you found on the internet. You can take something that takes you 15 minutes to read and turn it into and hour long extravaganza of truth.

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

Ex1.....

if Icke is not a fraudster

"If Icke is not a fraudster", the world is run by reptilian alien shapeshifters.

Regards
Maybe...maybe not

Fair point but then again that perception of any kind of reality of "If Icke is not a fraudster", the world is run by reptilian alien shapeshifters" is a matter of personal opinion and not a real justification for a character assassination attack or evidence that he is out to mislead for money gains.If we look at the science of astro physics and quantum physics and some of these astro- physicists saying that other dimensions could exist then in what matter or possible form could they contain , intelligences that those who have deeply studied the occult systems say are very real and possible.Just because there is no real hard physical reptilian shapeshifters being presented on CNN/BBC news agencies is does not necessary mean they are not possible. I think Icke has documented various witnesses whio have witnessed people actually shapeshifing in front of them.Would be very interesting to see how many of these or any witnesses to this would actually come forward if asked to do so.

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K-PAX-PROT.....

I think Icke has documented various witnesses whio have witnessed people actually shapeshifing in front of them

.....which proves Icke is a liar & you are misguided, perhaps as a result of being conned by the appalling Icke.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by K-PAX-PROT
Fair point but then again that perception of any kind of reality of "If Icke is not a fraudster", the world is run by reptilian alien shapeshifters" is a matter of personal opinion and not a real justification for a character assassination attack or evidence that he is out to mislead for money gains.

That's not a matter of opinion. Icke maintains in all seriousness that the world is run by reptilian alien shapeshifters. Since that's not true, either Icke is lying to make money and get attention or he is insane. Are you at least aware that there are scam artists out there, who lie in order to sell things? If you are aware of this, and still take Icke seriously, how can you expect to ever figure out when you are being lied to? What could Icke possibly say that would justify labeling him as a lier? Would he have to admit it?

If we look at the science of astro physics and quantum physics and some of these astro- physicists saying that other dimensions could exist then in what matter or possible form could they contain , intelligences that those who have deeply studied the occult systems say are very real and possible.

If we look at science, we find absolutely no mention of alien-shapeshifting-reptilian-overloards. . . all of Icke's central claims are totally incompatable with science. The fact that scientists make extraordinary claims with a scientific basis does not mean that all extraordinary claims are equally as valid as the scientific ones. Studying the occult is studying a history of made up beliefs; it's not like studying chemistry or physics where you can actually figure out new information about the world.

Just because there is no real hard physical reptilian shapeshifters being presented on CNN/BBC news agencies is does not necessary mean they are not possible.

True. However, the fact that no real evidence is being presented anywhere at all, and the fact that the claim is totally inconsistent with our experience of the world, means that we have absolutely no reason to believe in reptilian shapeshifters.

I think Icke has documented various witnesses whio have witnessed people actually shapeshifing in front of them.Would be very interesting to see how many of these or any witnesses to this would actually come forward if asked to do so.

If Icke got 30 kids to come foward and say they saw Santa last Christmas, would you believe that Santa exists?

If I told you I jumped over the moon yesterday, you wouldn't believe me. You should demand the same proof from Icke as if he had said that he jumped over the moon. In other words, you can dismiss his claims immediately.

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If you can think it, it is possible. So what test do we use to determine that someone is NOT a shapeshifter or Face Dancer? Perhaps YOU are, and are belittleing the very idea, to keep your cover!