Gorilla seen in Nasa snap from Mars

I missed that discovery, could you please point me to it?

I would point to the geometrical complexity that exists in the Cydonia Region, first and foremost.

This image represents the golden mean, its is superimposed upon the pyramidal region of Cydonia, in close proximity to the face on mars. I'd like to think that because Google Mars has censored the # out of the Cydonia region, that there must be something important there. Phobos, of course having the monolith that Buzz Aldrin has confirmed too makes for important data to consider.

The love and light mentality is always going to be here, inside. too often in history, however, we have seen terrible things happen to progressive thinking people. People who want nothing else than to better society. There are so many shelved inventions and murdered inventors in the 20th century (many of them making automotive headway)

To answer a different question about remote viewing, it's so simple that you may not have ever thought to do so. Clearing your head, as in meditation, but having a clear, unwaivering intent to see something specific somewhere else. You may have to coach yourself to believe that you can do it, before you do it. Intent and focus. For instance, any of us could, in theory, see anything or anybody in the world, or solar system, or galaxy. For beginners, however, stick with remote viewing events you can confirm....
Friends, family, friends of friends you are about to meet, etc.
FOCUS AND INTEND, and it will be so.

reply to post by ToHoldaPigeon

Even though I could debate that the features in Cydonia don't exactly follow the "Golden Mean/Golden Ratio/Golden Spiral" (i.e., you seem to ignore the features in your image that DON'T seem to fit the Golden Mean) -- but I won't, because I do believe that there may be SOME relationship to the Golden Mean at work here. So let's stipulate for the sake of discussion that Mars' Cydonia region does seem to bear some relationship to the Golden Mean.

However, that may not be due to an artificial "construction" of these features. The Golden Mean and the Golden Spiral occur in nature. Artists know that this Golden Mean is so pleasing to the eye -- and that's because it is a ratio often found in nature, and our subconscious recognizes this. We recognize the Golden Ratio and find it pleasing because it is all around us in nature.

Even though Nature seems random, it most definitely is not random. It follows basic rules and principles -- and those rules and principles, when repeated, begin to build up patterns in nature such as the Golden Ratio. This is what is meant by "order from chaos".

For example, the shells of sea creatures such as the nautilus follow the golden spiral. Some flowers have petals that radiate out from the center following this rule of nature. The shape of a wave curling under itself when it is about the break follows the Golden Spiral. Like I said, when seemingly random events in nature are repeated, we get patterns -- order from chaos.

Fractal geometry is another example of this idea of "order from chaos". A seemingly simple mathematical expression such as the "Mandelbrot Set" when repeated begins to show a pattern of nature -- a pattern that also follows the Golden mean and the Golden Spiral.

Another mathematical concept that follows the Golden Ratio are Fibonacci numbers. Fibonacci sets can be used to describe many different aspects of nature. It shows one way that seeming random natural processes (such as geological processes) follow sets of rules -- rules that become evident when analyzing the "big picture" of nature.

Therefore, I think the reason that configuration of features in the Cydonia region of Mars may sort of have some relationship to the Golden Mean could have nothing at all to do with intelligent intervention and have everything to do with the workings of nature. The Golden Mean is all around us in nature -- so why should we be surprised to find it on Mars?



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Quick question .. if this was a 'gorilla' or any other sort of life form why would NASA realease the picture. Considering they are so tight on UFOs etc

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Because NASA are all big stupid heads and they didn't notice it. We all got lucky that the 600lb Martian gorilla slipped past their inspection!

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Please read the whole thread. It is not a gorilla. It is a rock!

IRM

My Big Brother Spent Billions of Dollars Going to Mars and all I got was this stupid picture of a rock that looks like a gorilla.

Mr.cooper is a real genius. That looks like a rock formation although it kinda does look like a gorilla...but definately a rock none the less...don't ever read the sun that uks version of americas enquirer

Mr.cooper is a real genius. That looks like a rock formation although it kinda does look like a gorilla...but definately a rock none the less...don't ever read the sun that uks version of americas enquirer

Well, twelve pages dedicated to a rock being called gorilla in the Aliens & UFOs forum are really enough in my humble opinion: I usually send some alert to the STAFF whenever there's something that does not belong to Aliens & UFOs forum in my humble opinion, but since this thread got 227 replies, i have to guess that either:

1) Someone REALLY believes that we're in front of some REAL gorilla
2) OFF topic posts got this thread to get that much attention.
3)Maaaaaaany fella members posted in order to say that it's just a rock.

That being said I will express my humble opinion:
it's a rock, if you look at it from the right, from the left, from above and even if you take some close-up of the area where allegedly is located its arse, it always will turn out to be some rock, period.
Say hello to the "bear"

This rock is 20 minutes away from my house: i'ts called the "bear" and gave the name to a touristic location that is called "Capo d'orso" (Bear Cape).
Wind can be some GREAT sculptor, you know?

Maybe this ape has evolved past eating and drinking no not really its a rock im 99.0% sure of it.

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internos thank you for sharing the "Bear" and just like the Gorilla MaMa on Mars

this "Bear" you presented has much significance when it comes to the

Roman Empire. I am a Seer and this is one of many things you did not see that

was edged or engraved perfectly in the "Bear" Rock. The perfect letters YX

next to each other toward the bottom right of the "Bear" Rock. YX=1 and

within "Bear" Rock I see many mysterious things and here is one of them.

mysite.du.edu...

Yes I know anybody can see anything they want to in any rock but this is too

obvious. ^Y^


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Oh God here we go again!

Never let credibility get in the way of a bad fantasy. If you embrace ignorance any tighter, people may think you two are dating.

IRM

reply to post by InfaRedMan


Glad you still have an opinion and I presented XY engraved on "Bear" Rock that

you did not see and probably still do not see. The Gorilla Ma Ma on Mars is a life

form and I stand firm. ^Y^

Originally posted by amari
reply to post by InfaRedMan

 

Glad you still have an opinion

I think having an opinion that people find credible is far more important.

I presented XY engraved on "Bear" Rock that you did not see and probably still do not see.

Did you not see the 'SE' before the 'XY'? I'm flabbergasted!

The Gorilla Ma Ma on Mars is a life form and I stand firm. ^Y^

You stand firm yet the ice beneath your feet is cracking. Perhaps it's more prudent to acknowledge reality from time to time.

No really... Try it!

IRM

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Sorry you do not think out of the box, I do. No credibility to me is when you can not see life forms on Mars when they are starring you right in the face. Reality is what you can see and can not see and I am not on thin ice on Earth but would be even more on solid footing on thick ice if I was on Europa.

The other letters on the "Bear" are free hand letters that are all over the rock but the level horizontal letters YX have been placed with precision engraving. ^Y^


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Originally posted by amari
reply to post by InfaRedMan

 

Sorry you do not think out of the box, I do.

Box schmox!

Is 'thinking out of the box' when clear proof has been provided that the Gorilla is a rock and you cannot accept it? I'm sure you tell yourself that you think out of the box regularly so your subconscious can reconcile your denial of the real world.

No credibility to me is when you can not see life forms on Mars when they are starring you right in the face.

No credibility is when undeniable proof has been provided and someone is still willing to go out on a limb and make a fool of themselves.

I suggest you go back through the thread and look at the other images in the sequence that show the 'Gorilla' from another angle and reveal it to be nothing but a rock with some tricks of light and shadow.

Reality is what you can see and can not see

Reality is what 'is' regardless of wishful thinking and deliberate ignorance. You have rejected reality and substituted it with your own.

IRM

Originally posted by amariReality is what you can see and can not see and I am not on thin ice on Earth but would be even more on solid footing on thick ice if I was on Europa.

Doesn't that mean that each person would have his/her own reality?

If that's the case every discussion about any subject is irrelevant because we cannot discuss other people's reality, and in this particular case we would have a real gorilla, a statue of a gorilla, an unknown life form that feeds on rocks, an unknown life form that is camouflaged as a rock, a rock, etc., each on their own reality.

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Again there is life on Mars period and this is not a rock period your mind has

deceived you. There are ducks, birds, lizards, snakes, insects, microbes,

bacteria, humanoids and all kinds of animal life forms on Mars including

water. I would be glad to volunteer on a 40 day flight to Mars and would be

the first out of the craft without a space suit and with out oxygen. I will be

able to breath on Mars because again you have been lied to about the

atmospheric gas mixture content. Prove me wrong, you can't because it is

what you have been told.



How do I know there is life on Mars because I have seen life forms and

cyborgs from photos from Mars but you have not. These photos have been

presented but no one seemed to talk about them to the masses. This is all I

have to say about the matter and by the way dream on for you are in for a

big surprise when the truth finally comes out. Life on Mars is not soley based

on the Gorilla MaMa photo although you will try to discredit me on this one

photo, but good try. ^Y^








[edit on 17-3-2010 by amari]

Originally posted by amari
reply to post by InfaRedMan

 

I would be glad to volunteer on a 40 day flight to Mars and would be the first out of the craft without a space suit and with out oxygen.

Please, please, please, please do!

Is it just me or can anyone else sense a Darwin Award in the making?

Prove me wrong, you can't

The universe travels on the back on a giant squid called Trevor! Prove me wrong... you can't!

Life on Mars is not soley based on the Gorilla MaMa photo although you will try to discredit me on this one photo, but good try.

I don't have to discredit you. You have already done a good job of that yourself. Ever wondered why you can't earn one solitary star for your 'cosmic revelations' in a conspiracy forum thread? Now that really does say something! Think about it!

Conversation Over!

IRM

Even in it's smaller image (without enlarging it) that is obviously a rock formation that happens to look somewhat similar to a Gorilla. Freak of nature, coincidence, sheer chance formation but that is not a creature of any kind.

More sensationalism in journalism.

I believe certain journals and newspapers make these claims to offset any genuine photos that may surface showing a real alien or other life on the planets.