Were Humans Created by Reptilians?

There's more to the story than the film suggests because "Alexander (Two Babylons) Hislop", was missing a few key points in his data, particularly as it regards the etymology of key words in ancient history, which shaped our understanding of who did what when and where.

halexandria.org...

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---- "Halexandria" Foundation

"bottle caps and contaminated strata?" ----> alien vs. predator
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--- "Alexa Woods"
SOURCE: AVP_info

The remaining humans decide that the Predators must be allowed to succeed in their hunt so the Aliens do not reach the surface. As the battle continues most of the characters are killed, leaving only Alexa and a single Predator to fight against the Aliens. The two form an alliance and use the Predator’s self-destruct device to destroy the pyramid and the remaining Aliens. Alexa and the Predator reach the surface, where they battle the escaped Alien queen. They defeat the queen by attaching its chain to a water tower and pushing it over a cliff into the water, dragging the queen to the ocean floor. The Predator, however, dies from its wounds.

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--- Bouvetøya, an island about one thousand miles north of Antarctica.
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They discover a mysterious pyramid and begin to explore it, finding evidence of a civilization predating written history and what appears to be a sacrificial chamber filled with human skeletons with ruptured rib cages.p[//quote]

Other stuff I thought was interesting:

Bouvet Island is the most remote island in the world. The nearest land is Queen Maud Land, Antarctica, over 1,750 kilometres (1,090 mi) away to the south, which does not have a permanent population but is the site of a Norwegian all-year research station.

(from Wikipedia)

Troll research station is a Norwegian Antarctic research station in Queen Maud Land, in the eastern part of Princess Martha Coast, constructed during the Norwegian expedition 1989 - 1990. Located 1270 metres above sea level, 235 km from the coast at 72°00′43.5″S 2°31′56″E / 72.012083°S 2.53222°E / -72.012083; 2.53222. Contrary to other research stations on the continent, Troll is constructed on the snow-free slope of solid rock breaking through the ice sheet at Jutulsessen.
Troll at sunset in early November 2009

The station was only manned during the Antarctic summer months until facilities for permanent residence were installed February 2005. The capacity is limited to eight people through the winter (average winter population is six) and a significantly larger number during the summer (maximum 40) thanks to the temporary tent camp erected each spring.

On 12 February 2005 the station was officially opened by HM Queen Sonja of Norway for a manned all-year operation, which actually only has been permanent since November 2006.

To facilitate logistics, the Troll Airfield was constructed in 2005, on the Antarctic ice sheet, 6.8 km NNW of the station.

Some important areas of research at Troll include:

* meteorological measurements
* radiation measurements for UV etcetera, and glaciological, biological and physical field programmes.

The station is managed by the Norwegian Polar Institute.

On 23 February 2009 the station hosted a meeting by environment ministers from 15 countries to discuss climate change and learn about recent research in the field.[1]

(from Wikipedia)

"Tor" research station is a Norwegian Antarctic research station in Queen Maud Land, in the easternmost part of Princess Martha Coast at Svarthamaren, established in 1993. It is located 1625 metres above sea level, about 200 km from the coast at 71°53′20″S 05°09′30″E / 71.88889°S 5.15833°E / -71.88889; 5.15833. It is smaller than the other Norwegian station, Troll, and a summer-only station.

(from Wikipedia)

Originally posted by sum1one

But then we have further hiccups much like the flat theory in that people come up with hunches and bypass/ignore/skew all data or observations to come to their own theory on a particular subject. It’s like with quantum physics, a reasonable person can follow the theory even if it ends up not being correct since there is much data/math that suggests we are at least heading in the right direction. Now what if I come along and suggest that at the quantum level it is actually blue elves that bind all matter together? Yes it is a hunch and or faith, but at what point do we put it side by side with all other theories, or should we treat it the same as any other theory and add it to print?

very nice Xtrozero.. do you mean like the ones that live underground in iceland or the ones that live in darnassus?

The blue ones, so they must be from Iceland

Originally posted by undo

so one of three things is happening there:

1. it didn't actually exist, i.e. it's a myth
2. it did exist but the text and translations are faulty or exaggerated
3. it did exist and it's describing something quite surprising.

I agree, so without further data, oh let’s say something outside of clay tablets, which one do we pick? And where do the Reptilians get involved in all this empirical facts wise?

I am very familiar with what you are talking about, and the 12th planet (which I have read) goes rather deep into it all, except much of it rides on the translations of the author which allows him to come to his conclusions. He doesn’t have very many (if any) highly skilled people agree with his translations and there are some good sites that explain in detail where he strayed just to make things fit.

So I’m not in total agreement as to the translations that some authors seem to want to use, and those translations go against what is considered correct. I’m not saying the official translations are correct just because they are considered official, but more along the lines that when you break down these other words and meanings they fall apart into basically nothing. So many times they are simply made up.

So you mentioned E.ABZU and I have seen this to be weilded like a sword and Kramer's named use to instantly validate anything written along these lines, but E.ABZU could simply mean the house of Abzu. Kramer has further suggested it means temple of the apyss, and continued to say it could represent a temple floating out of the abyss. Now is that a metal rocketship flying round? Also the Abyss was in the water, so was it a boat, a metal boat, or a wooden boat covered with hammered copper? We don't know, and we don't even know if it was anything solid for it could be as we see hell as in not a physical place we visit too and from.

Or was it just the house of Abzu, like we would say the house of God?



So with all that I would go with door number 2...



[edit on 4-3-2010 by Xtrozero]

reply to post by rusethorcain


Because Rhesus factor being negative CAN occur through mutation or substitution.

I have multiple times told you HOW.

Please feel free to look up RhD deletion.

reply to post by Xtrozero


notice i specifically said the texts i'm referring to were translated by OXFORD UNIVERSITY and SAMUEL NOAH KRAMER, who was the first linguist to translate sumerian cuneiform. I'm not giving you sitchin translations. I'm giving you what it says in the texts, as per accepted, mainstream translations, by highly accredited universities and a celebrated assyriologist. why is the default position on this topic always require dragging sitchin's name into it? he did not create the sumerian cuneiform, nor write their texts! i'm sorry to be belligerent about it, but it's seriously frustrating!

When one says that Rhesus negative does not mutate, what you are saying is - when there is no genes those genes cannot mutate.

This is true while not being useful. Nothing cannot mutate. Congratulations.

However something can become nothing. Nothing can be overwritten.

Saying that a deletion cannot mutate is a nonsensical phrase.

Rh negative can be acheived through substitution, encoding error, chimerism (also a mechanism to become Rh+ again), the region being "out of place". This region of genes is highly variable.



[edit on 2010/3/4 by Aeons]

Well, if you can get down with the possibility of reptilians having some part in our creation, have I got a video for you. www.youtube.com...


I'm sorry I forgot how to post videos on here it's been a couple months since I've tried to. Now tell me that isn't as acceptable as reptilians, however I will admit the video doesn't cover everything. As far as reptilians go, I haven't been underground yet to see so I can't say yes or no, but when I go look I'll be sure to have plenty of lights, a camera, and tell you what I find. BTW, did you know you need some really extreme permits to go into any kind of cave in the U.S.,if they even let you in the cave.

reply to post by agentofchaos


you just copy the numbers after the = sign into the link above the posting box, called YouTube Video.

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Originally posted by undo


notice i specifically said the texts i'm referring to were translated by OXFORD UNIVERSITY and SAMUEL NOAH KRAMER, who was the first linguist to translate sumerian cuneiform. I'm not giving you sitchin translations. I'm giving you what it says in the texts, as per accepted, mainstream translations, by highly accredited universities and a celebrated assyriologist. why is the default position on this topic always require dragging sitchin's name into it? he did not create the sumerian cuneiform, nor write their texts! i'm sorry to be belligerent about it, but it's seriously frustrating!

Sorry about that, but spaceships are kind of a big part of his book(s).

So did Oxford U. or Kramer suggest that the meaning was a metal space ship? Are all the great minds of Ox U only able to understand the text as verbatim? When Kramer suggested it meant a temple rising out of the abyss in what context was he relating it to?


The word Abzu is all through out the text and many times the word Abyss fits very nicely, but other times it doesn't, and so Abzu is referred to as "temple". E. is referred to as house, temple, mother... maybe some others. So E.ABZU can be temple of the abyss...or it could mean metal rocketship....

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Read the beginning of Genesis where Adam and Eve tell God about how Satan deceived them. Satan is described as being a snake by Eve. The snake could talk and converse, and therefore reason. In later verses God curses the snake onto it's stomach. So if a snake was not on its stomach to begin with, what exactly was it? And was that an example of a reptilian being?

reply to post by autowrench


NO.......
2nd line also no.......
3rd line NOT ME MABEY YOU : )
LAST LINE WHO CREATED THEM ANNUNAKI/WATCHERS/FALLENZ
good day

Originally posted by dieseldave
And was that an example of a reptilian being?

YES as it tricked the mammals into this existance called life in order to let its species get ahead......WONDERS HOW THINGS WOULD BE IF THEY PLAYED FAIR?

reply to post by Xtrozero


it's not hammered copper. it's gold outside, silver inside (in fact it says it was ENTIRELY made of silver and then later mentions the outside of it was covered in gold), with lapis lazuli decorations. i don't know why kramer interpreted it to say abyss but i found it to be a very accurate translation since it's traceable throughout history (see the apsu of solomon's temple as a later metaphor for the original).

i do know oxford university's version differs somewhat. they don't acknowledge that abyss is abzu, for example. later, the e.abzu (i know it's house/temple of the abyss/abzu, but for some strange reason, kramer also refers to it as home faraway built. i have no idea why. perhaps he misunderstood something and it was later revised or, he understood but someone decided that bit of data didn't need to be in the text since it wasn't consistent with other data on the same subject. i dunno. i'm only telling you what i read from these "reputable" sources.

furthermore, the e.abzu was later called the e.nun, which is once again directing our attention to the chaotic waters of creation, et.al, the abyss. in addition, since it was mentioning the chaotic waters of creation, it would also be referencing the "rise of the primordial mountain from the primordial sea", which is an egyptian reference to the same thing. so i'm going with the idea that kramer was at least correct on his translation that abyss = abzu.


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reply to post by _SilentAssassin_


Cool, we need to start doing that again. The monarch effect seeks to flatline people. We can consider that we now have several sets of monarch effects, butterflies, ideologies trying to spread their wings across the world. All seeking to become THE party. Perhaps the monarchs need to be sacrificed once again. How is that for Christ consciousness?

reply to post by sum1one


i would have to do an etymology on it. my current theory is they are tied in somehow to the rest of the data.

reply to post by Flidais


u missing the most important one xeeatwelve.net

we were downgraded to selfish killing animals from the pure light beings; the most reptilian genes are in Rh negative people

Nice work. Lots of people would totally disagree with you but all my information points to the fact that yes, we are all a part of a reptilian design. It is a matter of what percentage of this alien DNA in your body. Shape and face lifting into reptillian features is not uncommon. In fact, manyhumans resemble reptillians in their features and have their eyes. So be carful with who you speak with on the street.

Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by autowrench

 

I don't think you will find any consensus on these matters but I tend to agree with you and have suspected as much for quite some time,.
To me it is like Occams Razor...the simplest solution, without even having to leave the planet.

Occams Razor states you take the slimmest slice, without assumption and use only fact.

That is not the simplest solution at all. Yours is the simplest solution, after a lot of assumption.

The simplest solution, using all facts is, its just mythology. There is no need to create an alien race, nor is there need to create a hidden reptilian race, that lives under the earth and created humans as hybrids.

Don't you think there would be DNA evidence of this? Why is this missing?

All you need is a similar animal that exists in all parts of the world (the snake), and people make myths about it. You also need cross contamination of societies and myths, so that they trade myths and this is a known fact that older religions and societies have done this.

You don't need anymore.

I love speculation and I love conspiracy. But most of it is based on just bad bad psuedo science.

Originally posted by rusethorcain

And lets take woman's right to terminate a pregnancy. Yes I said it. Do you ever closely observe some of the "religious right" fighting most passionately against a woman's medical privacy? They are armed and ruthless. Not always "compassionate people" for the lifes work they choose -if you catch my drift. The most notorious one lately is a killer who brought a gun into a church and murdered a man in front of his whole family. I understand a certain amount of passion for a cause but this is over the top. They are all over the top and seem to stop at nothing.

I have honestly entertained the prospect that among other groups many in the "religious right" so passionately anti abortion are not concerned with "life and when it begins" or the "soul" or even the infant fetus.

www.cnn.com...
Dr. Tiller was gunned down in his own church. I don't believe in violence to stop abortion doctors. The answer is educating people what happens during an abortion to the baby and mother and to educate people on what their religious beliefs are concerning abortion.
www.reformation-lutheran.org...
This is the church Tiller was a member of and the church 's view on abortion is that it's a tragedy, but it's left up to the individual.

My Mom use to say: 'You have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything". It's becomong more clear that church's today are becoming more 'politically correct' to appease their members. In other words they dare not speak up for the Lord and his commandments or else you might offend someone. Members of a church are the 'children of God' and the pastor is a representative of God and he should speak to his flock just like God the Father and Jesus would.

My questions to the church is: "Did any person of authority in this church ever ask Tiller if he wanted counseling on the abortion issue? Did Tiller seek counseling on his own relating to abortion? Tiller had to have known the church's view on abortion so why did he continue to perform abortions?

Naturally the answers would be confidential, however I'd be interested in knowing if any counsel was offered or received.





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reply to post by undo


I agree that abyss is what it is used for in the majority of cases and as examples:

meš tree planted in the Abzu....
Your great house is founded in the Abzu...
Enki, the king of the Abzu...
they purify the great shrine of the Abzu...
Ašimbabbar despatched people to the abzu for the barge's pitch...

So above it could is easily be the abyss, or some dimensional type place.

Below is in reference to your post of rising out of the abyss. It talks about a crenellation made of fine metals rising out of the abyss. Below that is the definition of a crenellation as a short battlement wall, so I’m not sure what the writers were actually getting at with this passage, or whether it was fictional or something real.

Enki's journey to Nibru: c.1.1.4
An artfully made bright crenellation rising out from the abzu was erected for Lord Nudimmud. He built the temple from precious metal, decorated it with lapis lazuli, and covered it abundantly with gold. In Eridug, he built the house on the bank. Its brickwork makes utterances and gives advice. Its eaves roar like a bull; the temple of Enki bellows. During the night the temple praises its lord and offers its best for him.

A battlement (also called a crenellation) in defensive architecture such as that of city walls or castles, comprises a parapet (i.e. a short wall), in which portions have been cut out at intervals to allow the discharge of arrows or other missiles.

Looking further at the word Abzu it is also used as examples below and abyss doen't fit...

I have built my Abzu, a shrine, in …
the interior of the shrine for me. In my Abzu, sacred songs and incantations resound for me...

Though these clay tablets are amazing and hold without a doubt both real events and legends we unfortunately don’t have very much else to physically validate what is written.