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Fallen Angel; Archangel

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posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by Coemgen
The idea of angel as referred to in the "Book of Enoch."

In this text, the reference to the idea of Angel is closely connected to the female - male relationship. It is depicted that the actions of individuals that defiled and disrespect women are not able to go to haven.

This is represented by the ideas of the Giants that are 3,000 ells or arm lengths tall. The behaviors of disrespect for women and daughters and children and the defilement of such, is the reasoning given that persons guilty of such sin are not able to go to Haven.

And it is notable, that behaviors of these giants that are not acceptable are violence and consumption of blood or flesh.

A moral that relates to these ideas.

be kind to others

[edit on 27-2-2010 by Coemgen]


Giant is not what you think it is.

נפל נפיל
nephı̂yl nephil
nef-eel', nef-eel'
From H5307; properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant: - giant.

Know of any Tyrants? Know of any Bullies? Know of any Gangsters?

Giant as in Name. Not mythical giant men. Look to the Hebrew and Greek if you want to know what the bible is actually saying, otherwise your getting the bedtime story version and you will never understand what is actually being talked about.

Here is a good place to start for those interested. All the fairy tail information will disappear and you will see why the bible is living, and how much of the story has been made so obscure as to not even recognize it.

ISA

This is because the bible is translated, so In other words, interpreted for you. Translation involves trying to reconstruct a feel of the story and is based on the translators whims. Paul speaks against this, saying scripture is not open to personal interpretation. All interpretation is, is another way to say translate.

To transliterate is to directly transfer a word across language, so that you have a word for word literation and not someones feeling on what was being said. Every version of the bible translated into any language is faulted with this.

I highly suggest for anyone that studies any texts from antiquity to dig a little deeper. Truly nothing is hidden, but it isn't in your face either, it's up to you to see the truth and what Isreal...pun totally intended.

Peace



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Here is a good place to start for those interested. All the fairy tail information will disappear and you will see why the bible is living, and how much of the story has been made so obscure as to not even recognize it.

ISA

This is because the bible is translated, so In other words, interpreted for you. Translation involves trying to reconstruct a feel of the story and is based on the translators whims. Paul speaks against this, saying scripture is not open to personal interpretation. All interpretation is, is another way to say translate.

Truly nothing is hidden, but it isn't in your face either, it's up to you to see the truth and what Isreal...pun totally intended.


I think the devil is the only thing that is living.

You can make the bible say anything you want it too.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Here is a good place to start for those interested. All the fairy tail information will disappear and you will see why the bible is living, and how much of the story has been made so obscure as to not even recognize it.

ISA

This is because the bible is translated, so In other words, interpreted for you. Translation involves trying to reconstruct a feel of the story and is based on the translators whims. Paul speaks against this, saying scripture is not open to personal interpretation. All interpretation is, is another way to say translate.

Truly nothing is hidden, but it isn't in your face either, it's up to you to see the truth and what Isreal...pun totally intended.


I think the devil is the only thing that is living.

You can make the bible say anything you want it too.


Well to be cast down means to be born, so I'd say you're right.

No translation needed.

Peace



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Truly nothing is hidden, but it isn't in your face either, it's up to you to see the truth and what Isreal...pun totally intended.


I think the devil is the only thing that is living.

You can make the bible say anything you want it too.


Well to be cast down means to be born, so I'd say you're right.



Accept satan as your savior?

Be born again?

Become the devil and look up at those who will fall?


[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Truly nothing is hidden, but it isn't in your face either, it's up to you to see the truth and what Isreal...pun totally intended.


I think the devil is the only thing that is living.

You can make the bible say anything you want it too.


Well to be cast down means to be born, so I'd say you're right.





Accept satan as your savior?

Be born again?

Become the devil and look up at those who will fall?


[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ. One covers the other as it was both of Jesus's hands in the bread basket. One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde...Jack and Tyler durden. It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways. No empathy, no sympathy, it's reciprocal so that the left doesn't know what the right is doing. To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ. "Not my will, but your will be done"

Peace

P.S. God and Satan are the same thing...same concept as above. Two psyche, one being, three expressions.


Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


[edit on 28-2-2010 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:22 AM
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Check out the website www.angelfall.com


Most amazing stuff on what the bible codes reveal about the identity of satan and fallen angels and what that all has to do with us. You will need to read and think about what's presented, I assure you, it's worth it!

Very cool, truly mind blowing.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

You'd be surprised how close to the truth that movie is...along long time ago...



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


You'd be surprised how close to the truth that movie is...along long time ago...


Maybe I wouldn't.

I've been told that the anchient summerians came from another star system.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


God loves those who love him and will kill anyone who doesn't...Neat. God can tell his body to kill certain cells that are CAIN serious, and keep the good ones and god's body lives forever right here on planet earth. How do you think your cells are so smart...it's all a fractal. When your world ends, so does theirs. But your world only ends when you stop reproducing. Gotta to have a vessel to travel this sea of time....Time bandit style.

Peace



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


You'd be surprised how close to the truth that movie is...along long time ago...


Maybe I wouldn't.

I've been told that the anchient summerians came from another star system.


The actual "Illuminati" are just what the word says. They illuminate our society. They give knowledge in the form of memes....."Pnome Home"...it's the literal jehuda mind trick. Judah means "lions whelp" as in MGM Grand. The bible is told the end from the beginning...critical to understanding what time it is. These are also those that bring the image of the beast...Christ...to life so that it speaks, causing all who will not bow to be killed by the sword of the mouth...is that not what christians do? "you're going to hell"....Is that not what they do?

Peace

[edit on 28-2-2010 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


God loves those who love him and will kill anyone who doesn't ... Gotta to have a vessel to travel this sea of time....Time bandit style.


The truth is alive and always changing.

It kind of sounds like God always wins.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
The actual "Illuminati" are just what the word says. They illuminate our society. They give knowledge in the form of memes....."Pnome Home"...it's the literal jehuda mind trick.

These are also those that bring the image of the beast...Christ...to life so that it speaks, causing all who will not bow to be killed by the sword of the mouth...is that not what christians do? "you're going to hell"....Is that not what they do?


ET phone home

Big bird / little bird

Call in air strike co-ordinates ...

Dark and the light ... always with a purpose, always with the bigger vision in mind


[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


You'd be surprised how close to the truth that movie is...along long time ago...


Maybe I wouldn't.

I've been told that the anchient summerians came from another star system.


Think about the universe as you see it and realize you are looking through a giant convex window. Do you understand what looking through a convex window will do to your perception of what is outside? It will throw everything wayyyy out. But really objects in the rear view are much closer then they appear....keen eyes can see the craters of the moon. Understand how tall the walls of those craters would have to be in order for you to see detail with the naked eye? Either the moon is much closer and smaller then we are told or it has thousand mile high crater walls. It's a small world after all.

You aren't told the truth...but you can see it and know it. Think about the Jedi mind trick. Nasa is hebrew and means "to lift up". You ever wonder what is under those engines when they light up, what ever it is is fully consumed in fire.

Being John Malkavich, gems all over that movie.

Peace



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

The first is always the last...To be Christ, you must also be Anti-Christ.

... One is called Jesus and the other is called Judas. Jeckle and Hyde... It's a paradidle and will confuse anyone not seeing it both ways.


First/Last

Star Wars comes to mind.

Why is gods name would anyone want to be either?

Sounds very schizophrenic.

Duelistic perhaps?

Perhaps there is no choice at all?

Doing the right thing all the time, could be enough to drive anyone insane.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


God loves those who love him and will kill anyone who doesn't ... Gotta to have a vessel to travel this sea of time....Time bandit style.


The truth is alive and always changing.

It kind of sounds like God always wins.


That's when peace comes, when you realize what's done is done, love it or hate it, you're your only begotten son and you gave yourself for the world you loved it so much.

My favorite line from Porky's..."So saith the Shepard, so saith the flock"

Peace



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Think about the universe as you see it and realize you are looking through a giant convex window. Do you understand what looking through a convex window will do to your perception of what is outside? It will throw everything wayyyy out. But really objects in the rear view are much closer then they appear....


Convex window

This was painted in 1997

EAHNAH'S WINDOW

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ce70dc30bace.jpg[/atsimg]

What do you think this picture means?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Perception of reality and time is the question.



You aren't told the truth...but you can see it and know it. Think about the Jedi mind trick. Nasa is hebrew and means "to lift up". You ever wonder what is under those engines when they light up, what ever it is is fully consumed in fire.


They go up until Houston says we have a problem. Then they have to come back to earth.



Being John Malkavich, gems all over that movie.


The spy they left behind?

Let's get in his head and figure out WTH is going on?

Looks like a good movie. I think I'll watch it.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 03:53 AM
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i'm trying to track down the origin of the word "satan". first time it is used is the days of king david. what the heck? i'll get back with ya on the subject, as soon as i find enough data.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
The actual "Illuminati" are just what the word says. They illuminate our society. They give knowledge in the form of memes....."Pnome Home"...it's the literal jehuda mind trick.

These are also those that bring the image of the beast...Christ...to life so that it speaks, causing all who will not bow to be killed by the sword of the mouth...is that not what christians do? "you're going to hell"....Is that not what they do?


ET phone home

Big bird / little bird

Call in air strike co-ordinates ...

Dark and the light ... always with a purpose, always with the bigger vision in mind


[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


You know what the "mark of the beast" is called? Karma...literally....recycling. If your Dogma eats your Karma ignorance is bliss, if your Karma eats your Dogma your first is your last.

Like I said, God gets no vacation. Infinite is In Finite, also known as Going Nowhere Fast. We were, are and will be again, only brand new. We create everything new, but all things that are new must become old, this is our Prism forever.

The Net is over the fish, and soon we will draw in and eat, rest for the evening and start again, a brand new day. Some of us have a problem of waking up early, so we took the worm, and the others starved, because they would not feed themselves, and we didn't feed them either, we felt it our right for their "Garden" attitude and slackness, but God is gracious and has allowed us to live till the end, to perish. When you don't know, it truly doesn't matter because you wake up in a new body with a brand new mind and everything is brand new again and you are none the wiser. It's a gift...innocence. One only few appreciate and still know the truth, but most do not balance the scales when they find out...just like me.

Because we killed ourselves, we know...forever, just how dead we truly are...it's a gift.

Peace



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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my first and most logical stop was ancient egyptian language.
i was looking for a correlation between the hebrew designation "stn"
and one of the egyptian gods, in the original language (not the greek spelling).

st = set (the egyptian snake god)

and An was the sumerian god of the heavens.

so setan is a possibility. we're probably looking for a planet first (These are always in double, triple or even more, layers)

it seems setan as a word for the enemy, could easily cross the Mediterranean to greece and rome, to become saturn, who is chronos, who is he who decrees the fates, (time) who is the sumerian enki (that's as far back as i have references).




[edit on 28-2-2010 by undo]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Think about the universe as you see it and realize you are looking through a giant convex window. Do you understand what looking through a convex window will do to your perception of what is outside? It will throw everything wayyyy out. But really objects in the rear view are much closer then they appear....


Convex window

This was painted in 1997

EAHNAH'S WINDOW

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ce70dc30bace.jpg[/atsimg]

What do you think this picture means?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Perception of reality and time is the question.



You aren't told the truth...but you can see it and know it. Think about the Jedi mind trick. Nasa is hebrew and means "to lift up". You ever wonder what is under those engines when they light up, what ever it is is fully consumed in fire.


They go up until Houston says we have a problem. Then they have to come back to earth.



Being John Malkavich, gems all over that movie.


The spy they left behind?

Let's get in his head and figure out WTH is going on?

Looks like a good movie. I think I'll watch it.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]


All I can think is Penthouse at 13 in the field beind my house buried in a plastic bag, me and the boys would gander...The Daughters of Men...How could you not?. The Triangle one reminded me of Hustler or the black Crows Amorica...



Peace




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