Tesla: science discoveries

Ahh.. Tesla is My Boy !

Edison.. who's he? a third rate hack who did Not invent the light bulb and got his jollies going around electrocuting animals.

( All Edison did was improve on an existing light bulb idea) But it's taught to school kids like he invented the darn thing. A Bold Lie)

See, this is a Great example how Money and Power has twisted our History that's taught to our children.

We would still have everything we have today if Edison never existed, but we would have none if Tesla was never born. It was proven Tesla even pre-dated the invention of the radio by Marconi.

You wanna give your kids a real education.. get the facts then pull your kids out of school and home school them. At least till they can go to college. There is nothing but lies and propaganda taught to young impressionable minds in K through 12 grades.

Yup it was in High School I saw a Tesla coil and how it froze the
muscles like the low voltage 60 cycle model train tracks when
you touched them as a child.
Also bought my perhaps one and only UFO magazine and figured
Tesla had something to do with them after seeing the Tesla coil.
Not knowing about Tesla is a big disadvantage.
My dad gave me a crystal radio set and one day I figured out that
someone had to invent the radio.
I asked who invented the radio and dad said Tesla.
Which was known to any one after 1943 when the US court said so.
Now days I wonder if Tesla would sue for the Triangle ships.
Can't tell if the net is still full of Tesla stories but I had quite a few
links to web pages at one time.
The Tesla Tower was kind of an unknown.
So is the big coil behind him in photos of his light bulbs.
The day we find out that a Tesla bulb actually focused electrostatic
pulses is the day we might find out about how the Death Ray works.
ED: Oops forgot dad said he made a bulb and it was a solid metal
half sphere. Whats up with that.


[edit on 5/31/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Originally posted by kr0ss
Do you have a fast link on information about the tesla coil?
Thanks for keeping showing info, keep up the good work. i think you're the person who knows more about tesla since himself and lyne.

I do not see the coil operation in any links assumed by Lyne that
Tesla used.
Here are some illustrations I put together:

The triangle indicates a cone coil Tesla used which is the same
as the flat coil for the same purpose.


A 'chain' of induced charges that lift a ship operating the coil:


Bill Lyne may not care for much of this attempt to show the operation
but I needed something to show a force being generated with
the insulated charges or the air and or ether as told by Tesla.
ED: Tesla's autobiography in linked in this topic:


He says he knew every step to make.
Most engineers might say the same.

ED: The Colorado Springs notes are full of coil operation.
The Tesla coil ring on the net has similar information.


[edit on 6/6/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


kr0ss are you referring to another dialogue.
The entire Tesla labs and documents not returned to the Tesla
Museum or his native country is in the Oppenheimer library in
new Mexico after von Braun took them from Ohio according to
William R. Lyne as mentioned on his web page and perhaps all
of his books.
Lyne has yet to determine who has the key or to say who has
access like the HAARP people or some other project or company
who ran out of good copies or lost any duplicate equipment
models.

I'm reading through "Prodigal Genius The life of Nikola Tesla" by
John J. O'Neill who is quite knowledgeable about the science and
gave great incites on the gas tubes lit up by Tesla waves.

The first parts are about the Polyphase Power System invention
being deliverable in many ways and the Radio Science invention
being tunable as a leap in front of any other developer.

Tesla thought he could light up the skies because his ether waves
actually bounced air off the bulb walls to make illumination.
I guess Tesla forgot about the walls cause he illuminated the
air so many times in his laboratory. The sound waves in ether
technique of Tesla is mentioned by William R. Lyne is a key factor
when as noted by O'Neill a copper cylinder enclosed a gas tube
and the gas still lit up meaning the ether went through the metal
to agitate the gas to illumination.

And lot more to find out I hope but in reference to any aircraft
invented by Tesla using sound waves in ether expect to see
some glowing around the craft. There is also a black light effect
that gives off dark violet light, noted in O'Neill book as he says
Tesla coated the bulb to glow from the black UV light, from the
air. And perhaps sparks of other glowing spots of air at times.

In 1907, with the Perry North Pole expedition came with announcement
by Tesla that some think the test had been made. Can't say right
now if Tesla tried to light up the sky or if an explosion occurred
due to the non Relativistic Hydrogen effect discovered by William
R. Lyne that was occulted by the Illuminati. However the Tesla
Waves from ether are the source of Tesla's many announcements.

The following contain Sound Waves in the Ether discoveries.

1934-04-08: Tesla Sees Evidence Radio and Light Are Sound
www.tesla.hu...
1932-09-11: Pioneer Radio Engineer Gives Views on Power
www.tesla.hu...
1929-09-22: Nikola Tesla Tells of New Radio Theories
www.tesla.hu...
1892-12-21: On the Dissipation of the Electrical Energy of the Hertz Resonator
www.tesla.hu...

TESLA SEES EVIDENCE RADIO AND LIGHT ARE SOUND (1934) What, then can light be if it is not a transverse vibration? That was the question he asked himself and set out to find the answer. "I consider this extremely important," said Mr. Tesla. "Light cannot be anything else but a longitudinal disturbance in the ether, involving alternate compressions and rarefactions. In other words, light can be nothing else than a sound wave in the ether."

From: ON THE DISSIPATION OF THE ELECTRICAL ENERGY OF THE HERTZ RESONATOR. (1892) ... The apparatus, oscillator and resonator, being immersed in air, or other discontinuous medium, there occurs — as I have pointed out in the description of my recent experiments before the English and French scientific societies — dissipation of energy by what I think might be appropriately called electric sound waves or sound-waves of electrified air. In Prof. Bjerknes's experiments principally this dissipation in the resonator need be considered, though the sound-waves — if this term be permitted — which emanate from the surfaces at the oscillator may considerably affect the observations made at some distance from the latter. Owing to this dissipation the period of vibration of an air-condenser can not be accurately determined, and I have already drawn attention to this important fact.

From: PIONEER RADIO ENGINEER GIVES VIEWS ON POWER (1932) The assumption of the Maxwellian ether was thought necessary to explain the propagation of light by transverse vibrations, which can only occur in a solid. So fascinating was this theory that even at present it has many supporters, despite the manifest impossibility of a medium, perfectly mobile and tenuous to a degree inconceivable, and yet extremely rigid, like steel. As a result some illusionary ideas have been formed and various phenomena erroneously interpreted.

From: NIKOLA TESLA TELLS OF NEW RADIO THEORIES (1929) .... "When Dr. Heinrich Hertz undertook his experiments from 1887 to 1889 his object was to demonstrate a theory postulating a medium filling all space, called the ether. which was structureless, of inconceivable tenuity and yet solid and possessed of rigidity incomparably greater than that of the hardest steel. He obtained certain results and the whole world acclaimed them as an experimental verification of that cherished theory. But in reality what he observed tended to prove just its fallacy. "I had maintained for many years before that such a medium as supposed could not exist, and that we must rather accept the view that all space is filled with a gaseous substance. On repeating the Hertz experiments with much improved and very powerful apparatus, I satisfied myself that what he had observed was nothing else but effects of longitudinal waves in a gaseous medium, that is to say, waves, propagated by alternate compression and expansion. He had observed waves in the ether much of the nature of sound waves in the air.

However Tesla worked with pressure (sound) waves far more powerful
than light or radio as referenced perhaps in previous postings such
as in 1940 for 'Death Ray' or force at a distance.

This force at a distance being similar to the universal ether forces
that the Sun imposes on Earth and the planets which we call gravity.

reply to post by davesidious


LMFAO wow, you obviously have not studied Tesla that much, or classical physics for that matter. You do know almost all his work was based on observational evidence, not the kind of mathematical crap going on today, like string theory. Without Tesla we would not be in the kind of world we are in today. He was not out for the money or fame, that’s what made him so unique; that is also why other inventors stole off him. I think he was trying to figure out the big picture.

reply to post by Maddogkull


There are a lot of powerful people covering up what Tesla discovered.
And they don't care about letting us know about it.
Tesla's discoveries have been reversed in the effort to keep all to
themselves the power they have.

I'd say most people are anti Tesla agents just by the tremendous
job the powerful cartels or bankers or GE or JP Morgan or illuminati
whoever have done in telling us different.

Before Tesla's lab burned taking away all the evidence that he used
the gas evaporation method to super cool liquid air as used in his
patents for increasing effective electrical currents, Tesla was using
the non Relativistic effect on a 'self acting machine'.
Linde in Europe filed for the liquid air process patent the very next
day according to William R. Lyne in his writing's.
Tesla had a working model of the 3 phase power system for the Niagara
Falls Power System and later developed a nearby tower and one on
Long Island. The Niagara Falls Tower was to store power in inductive
and capacitive complex phases whenever full load did not occur.
However the transmission through the Earth did prove untenable.
Lighting with no wires and all the other systems Tesla developed
still stand as unwanted but perhaps much in need today.
The so called Tesla aircraft is also perhaps unusable if the crew
and passenger need be subjected to bright discharges inside the
craft and are made to wear jump suites and dark goggles and end
up looking like aliens from another planet as we know the image
all to well.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
To me he sounds more like a mystic than a scientist. Too many flowery words, and very few facts if any. We can speculate what and how he measured (if he indeed did that), but that's just that - a speculation, whose relation to physical reality is tenuous and non-existent in most cases.

You can be both mystic and scientist - Newton was an alchemist

Some people try to know Tesla, but they don't:

www.scribd.com...

Others just don't care:

www.scribd.com...

ED: Check the idea of electricity to sound waves and pressure waves
and you will realize at once how the Tesla craft flies.
Suppression of that craft can go a long way and apparently there is
a stand off between the secret holders and the money men who
might want to eliminate the whole idea that Tesla made anything.


[edit on 7/27/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

TESLA SEES EVIDENCE RADIO AND LIGHT ARE SOUND (1934) What, then can light be if it is not a transverse vibration? That was the question he asked himself and set out to find the answer. "I consider this extremely important," said Mr. Tesla. "Light cannot be anything else but a longitudinal disturbance in the ether, involving alternate compressions and rarefactions. In other words, light can be nothing else than a sound wave in the ether."

By 1934, believing in that crap was utterly ignorant. Freshman physics tells you why: there is no such thing as polarized sound, but there is polarized light. That was a very well known phenomenon that anybody familiar with birefringent crystals should be personally acquainted with. Vector fields like E&M can support polarizations, scalar fields like pressure (sound) cannot. It is also an experimental fact that E&M waves have two polarization axes, hence EM waves are transverse, no longitudinal component. (general 3-vectors would have three of course---seismic waves in solid material with interesting stress-strain relations have all polarizations).

By 1934, the specific physics of electromagnetism---both classical and quantum---was very well known.

Tesla had a good intuition for electrodynamics and some materials which was very useful in maybe 1880 or 1890, but let's remember that the pace of progress in mainstream science & engineering was VERY RAPID in that period.

Thousands of anonymous (and a few famous) scientists and engineers progressed technology much further. In 1934, there were already effective and reasonably sophisticated AM and FM radios, and the beginning of high-energy experimental physics with linacs and cyclotrons. I don't see any evidence Tesla actually understood quantum mechanics; he didn't seem to understand Maxwellian electrodynamics sufficiently.

Originally posted by Kalki11

Originally posted by buddhasystem
To me he sounds more like a mystic than a scientist. Too many flowery words, and very few facts if any. We can speculate what and how he measured (if he indeed did that), but that's just that - a speculation, whose relation to physical reality is tenuous and non-existent in most cases.

You can be both mystic and scientist - Newton was an alchemist

Newton was not a "mystic". He didn't believe that physical reality was tenuous or non-existent, precisely the contrary.

There wasn't good enough science on atomic theory at the time of Newton, but he wanted to develop theory and perform experiments to learn the true nature of physical reality. He felt that learning such was insight into the design of the Creator.

Remember then, there was no periodic table, and fundamental proof of the atomic theory of matter wasn't available until the early 20th century.

Originally posted by Kalki11

Originally posted by buddhasystem
To me he sounds more like a mystic than a scientist. Too many flowery words, and very few facts if any. We can speculate what and how he measured (if he indeed did that), but that's just that - a speculation, whose relation to physical reality is tenuous and non-existent in most cases.

You can be both mystic and scientist - Newton was an alchemist

What you obviously don't know is the depth of mathematical talent that Newton had and how he applied it to his studies. The math he used wouldn't be any more comprehensible to you than the "string theory" a lot of ignorami here like to bash for its being obscure.

Originally posted by Ahabstar
One of Tesla's inventions was remote controlled battleships that he twice presented to the Navy and demonstrated them on the Hudson River. They were also capable of remote aiming and firing on targets. Both times the Navy showed great interest but declined.

The UAV's in use today (both the reconnaissance and weaponized versions) are a direct descendent of those inventions.

Not so much. There's not any similarity between the control systems at all, other than they both use radio for communication, and even then Tesla's transmitters and receivers were astoundingly crude, and don't bear much resemblance to what is used today.

It's not like the designers of UAVs (or much of anything else, really, outside of induction motor design) picks up Tesla's Big Book O' Design Plans when they're making these things.

Tesla had lots of notes and patents that both Apple and IBM had to work around when designing processors. It is hard to say what future inventions may run into Tesla's patents again. The man dabbled in so many things.

How do you figure? Patents in his day lapsed after 14 years. No, they didn't have to work around Tesla patents. That's a bunch of hogwash that Cheney promulgated in her book.

BTW, Apple doesn't design processors. IBM did in the case of old mainframes, but the PC uses Intel designed processors. They didn't have to worry about Tesla's patents either.

I have seen many sites and threats on other forums about Nicolas Tesla

In my opinion he is one of the greatest scientist/inventors of our time and it is a pity the governments and companies on this world did see him as a threat to their profits.

reply to post by mbkennel


Polarization is only determined by the E component.
There is no proof on the H or magnetic component.

The ether is also electrical in nature and just because the illuminati
don't bother to model the ether for polarization is no way to
avoid the obvious physical pressure of high voltage.

Light sound waves are from atoms and the voltage levels are
nothing compared to radio and Tesla compression waves for
aircraft flight.

ED: The wave equation solution is sines and cosines and has
xyz and t parameters. To avoid confirmation of Tesla the
x and y were good enough to suppress actual nature of things
because gas is not a solid as we all know. We do not live
in a solid ether like the bone head illuminati are telling us
with lies about the nature of light.


[edit on 7/27/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

The Tesla inventions must still be important to suppress and
no one will ever let them out.

Take all the wars for raw materials mining and oil.
They might be eliminated.

How rich is Afghanistan we do not know.
After deals with the Taliban were to costly all of a sudden we go to war.
And now we see mining and other developments that will
end up with the Taliban getting even richer than before.

For sure the Taliban has no interest in Tesla science.
You can say Tesla was great but you are actually suppressed in his
science.
I just happen to think Tesla told the truth and we are being lied to
with the biggest CIA writer budget ever.

ED: There was a mention about Tesla's equipment and how much
better the equipment is today. Tesla found signals from the planets
and even Earth. I wonder what those were all about, perhaps ether
responses from an electrical universe. Science can only be a big
fraud if they teach other than what Tesla discovered.

[edit on 7/27/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Originally posted by mbkennel

TESLA SEES EVIDENCE RADIO AND LIGHT ARE SOUND (1934) What, then can light be if it is not a transverse vibration? That was the question he asked himself and set out to find the answer. "I consider this extremely important," said Mr. Tesla. "Light cannot be anything else but a longitudinal disturbance in the ether, involving alternate compressions and rarefactions. In other words, light can be nothing else than a sound wave in the ether."

By 1934, believing in that crap was utterly ignorant.

I quite agree. I wear polarized glasses every day and am wondering what Tesla would make of those.

Freshman physics tells you why: there is no such thing as polarized sound, but there is polarized light.

Not to split hair here, but can there be sound transmitted in solids by means of shear stress (transversal)? I don't recall.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla found signals from the planets

What signals, from what planets, when and how?