Tesla: science discoveries

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Thanks for that video it was really interesting. Amazing what he was able to stumble onto.

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"UFO"s? How can you say how all UFOs fly? They're unidentified, and hence what they are (and how they fly) is unknown.

reply to post by buddhasystem


He was brilliant when young. He has a SI unit named after him (for magnetic flux density). But, as you say, in older age he started to claim more, and demonstrate less, making him indistinguishable from a kook.

reply to post by Ahabstar


Evidence, please!

Tesla's 1892 blockbuster:

Nikola Tesla: Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential




The Tesla 'fluid insulating medium':

I think, however, that in the case of an electrode immersed in a fluid insulating medium, and surrounded by independent carriers of electric charges, which can be acted upon inductively, a sufficiently high frequency of the impulses would probably result in a gravitation of the gas all around toward the electrode. For this it would be only necessary to assume that the independent bodies are irregularly shaped; they would then turn toward the electrode their side of the greatest electric density, and this would be a position in which the fluid resistance to approach would be smaller than that offered to the receding.

Talking about air insulating:

From the remarks before made one may see what an important factor of loss the air in the neighborhood of a charged surface becomes when the electric density is great and the frequency of the impulses excessive. But the action as explained implies that the air is insulating—that is, that it is composed of independent carriers immersed in an insulating medium. This is the case only when the air is at something like ordinary or greater, or at extremely small, pressure. When the air is slightly rarefied and conducting, then true conduction losses occur also. In such case, of course, considerable energy may be dissipated into space even with a steady potential, or with impulses of low frequency, if the density is very great.

Is the medium the message.
Tesla went on working with the 'medium' he discovered.

Tesla's experimentation with coils was far ahead
of the English's great electrical scientists Lord Kelvin and Faraday by
way of voltage and frequency.

They could not help Edison convince JP Morgan when it came to funding
and putting money on the line.

Tesla became an Illuminati favorite with the completion of the Niagara
Falls power plant and his many AC patents.
Tesla went on tapping the Illuminati for further funding with the likes
of JJ Astor and others and perhaps developing copper processing for
the copper magnate Guggenheim. The Guggenheim foundation funded
the rocket society in New Mexico. With Tesla using coils of copper even
I can see a friendship here.

Rocket development, NASA, may now be considered a cover for the
saucer, Foo or UFO. Even back then and in New Mexico before
World War II. Odd that the saucer came back to New Mexico
in 1945. A seven foot cone coil form, devoid of the copper wire, was
found in a New Mexico salvage yard. Only Tesla's invention used that
coil which seemingly was located in an old Los Alamos building TA-33.
(reference "Pentagon Aliens" by Lyne on saucer and UFO connection)

The salvage yard scouring of William Lyne is duly noted in a movie
"Mosquito Coast" to find discarded technology. As noted in net
forums by Mr. Lyne.

So is the medium of Tesla the ether that science says can't do anything
for us. Besides being the medium for flight and non Relativistic processes
the 'medium' needs a messenger.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Even more fact doused in conjecture. What is this actually bringing the thread? This is the Science & Technology board - please stick to actual evidence! Illuminati? Give me a break!!!

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

 

Even more fact doused in conjecture. What is this actually bringing the thread? This is the Science & Technology board - please stick to actual evidence! Illuminati? Give me a break!!!

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Man, I've tried every one of links that you posted to the site and none of them works. Is there a problem with the link or is it just me? I really do want to read it.

Originally posted by MBF
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

 

Man, I've tried every one of links that you posted to the site and none of them works. Is there a problem with the link or is it just me? I really do want to read it.

Hi I just tested every one. Just left click on the link.
I was going to list them all but they all worked.
Some are .doc downloads so save the file until you get Microsoft Word
to see the file.
I would rather html to view on the net.
On a number of pdf files I have gone to Adobe and they will translate
to html or txt to help research.
The one I did was the pdf of Tesla talking about his aircraft published
in a number of document not listed or summarized at that site.
My profile might have summary if you can find it.
Perhaps one can download a doc file and Adobe will make it a pdf
then go back and make an html.

Hope you can get the links working.
u2u me if the problem persists.
If you don't have Word then some member might be able to find a
solution.

What do you think of finding 50x speed of light particles and electrical
activity in space. Another Tesla science ignored for good reason perhaps.
I'd like to find more like that.

If there are energy secrets I'd like to post that.
I think I found one today.

1933-09-10: Tremendous New Power Soon to be Unleashed

www.tesla.hu...

That is a doc download.
Tesla tells of a tremendous power.
We know how a coil sparks and some might think spinning a coil might
generate power but here he mentions the tri metal generator.

My power generator will be of the simplest kind - just a big mass of steel, copper and aluminum, comprising a stationary and rotating part, peculiarly assembled. I am planning to develop electricity and transmit it to a distance by my alternating system now universally established. The direct current system could also be employed if the heretofore insuperable difficulties of insulating the transmission lines can be overcome.

A coil 5 or 50 miles long has to do more than sit there.

Then the mind TV:

"My idea was to employ an artificial retina receiving the image of the object seen, an 'optic nerve' and another such retina at the place of reproduction. These two retinas were to be constructed after the fashion of a checkerboard with many separate little sections, and the so-called optic nerve was nothing more than a part of the earth. "An invention of mine enables me to transmit simultaneously, and without any interference whatsoever, hundreds of thousands of distinct impulses through the ground just as though I had so many separate wires. I did not contemplate using any moving part - a scanning apparatus or a cathodic ray, which is a sort of moving device, the use of which I suggested in one of my lectures. "Now if it be true that a thought reflects an image on the retina, it is a mere question of illuminating the same property and taking photographs, and then using the ordinary methods which are available to project the image on a screen. "If this can be done successfully, then the objects imagined by a person would be clearly reflected on the screen as they are formed, and in this way every thought of the individual could be read. Our minds would then, indeed, be like open books."

Only hearsay but Tesla waves might send messages to the human brain
via alpha waves (not the radiation but a terminology used) to make
people hear things so why not Tesla making a scientific discovery the
with put an image into the mind in one wave front. This gives the
powers, those who have taken over the Tesla experiments, the ability
to send hallucinations.

Lastly Tesla health tips.

"First of all, we eat too much , but this we have heard said often before. And we eat the wrong kinds of foods and drink the wrong kinds of liquids. Most of the harm is done by overeating and under exercising, which bring about toxic conditions in the body and make it impossible to throw off the accumulated poisons. "My regime for the good life and my diet? Well, for one thing, I drink plenty of milk and water. "Why overburden the bodies that serve us? I eat but two meals a day, and I avoid all acid-producing foods. Almost everyone eats too many peas and beans and other foods containing uric acid and other poisons. I partake liberally of fresh vegetables, fish and meat sparingly, and rarely. Fish is reputed as fine brain food, but has a very strong acid reaction, as it contains a great deal of phosphorus. Acidity is by far the worst enemy to fight off in old age. "Potatoes are splendid, and should be eaten at least once a day. They contain valuable mineral salts and are neutralizing. "I believe in plenty of exercise.

I suppose thats a science discovery and not in need of my commentary.


I take Tesla as speaking the truth and the others are just living in a
land of 'milk and honey'* of the oil companies avoiding the testing or
development of possible energy sources.
The Tesla flying machine ether principles are the source of
its flight.
We can't tell what further study would reveal as Tesla only
has vague connections to all the wonders.

*See section "Rivers of Milk and Honey" in Velikovsky's
"Worlds in Collision" and others for the world wide occurrence
that might have planted a lot of oil in the Saudi Arabian
desert. The oil may not run out and that will seal any
ether alternative energy even if the flying machines continues to
fly.

ED: The pdf document download of Tesla speaking of his aircraft:
pritchardschool.com...



[edit on 3/2/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

1898-11-30: Tesla Describes His Efforts in Various Fields of Work
www.tesla.hu...
or see this page
www.tesla.hu...

Either power was to be developed on the spot by converting the energy of the sun's radiations or the energy of vast reservoirs was to be transmitted economically to any distance. Though there were other possible sources of economical power, only the two solutions mentioned offer the ideal feature of power being obtained without any consumption of material. After long thought I finally arrived at two solutions, but on the first of these, namely, that referring to the development of power in any locality from the sun's radiations, I can not dwell at present. The system of power transmission without wires, in the form in which I have described it recently, originated in this manner. Starting from two facts that the earth was a conductor insulated in space, and that a body can not be charged without causing an equivalent displacement of electricity in the earth, I undertook to construct a machine suited for creating as large a displacement as possible of the earth's electricity. This machine was simply to charge and discharge in rapid succession a body insulated in space, thus altering periodically the amount of electricity in the earth, and consequently the pressure all over its surface. It was nothing but what in mechanics is a pump, forcing water from a large reservoir into a small one and back again. Primarily I .contemplated only the sending of messages to great distances in this manner, and I described the scheme in detail, pointing out on that occasion the importance of ascertaining certain electrical conditions of the earth. The attractive feature of this plan was that the intensity of the signals should diminish very little with the distance, and, in fact, should not diminish at all, if it were not for certain losses occurring, chiefly in the atmosphere. As all my previous ideas, this one, too, received the treatment of Marsyas, but it forms, nevertheless

That's not Martians but Marsyas a Greek play character that revolves
around an item of horror.

The "..without any consumption of material." is a constant search.

The Sun power is not talked about more but his so called Radiant Energy
patent has a mysterious bulb pointed at a metal or non metal collection
plate for electrical charge collection in a capacitor or battery.
I heard of someone charging batteries with a line antenna.

The transmission through the earth is noted instead we have satellites
now for world world wide communication.

ED: On the .doc problem try something like
www.google.com...
to find Adobe pdf to html online converter
do the same with doc to pdf before and see how that works.
The text of pdf of Tesla aircraft survey in html, no illustrations:
airlinemusic.mysite.com...
An image associated with a Tesla dirigible:

or wireless torpedo that works

worked perfectly, and everybody who saw them was amazed at their performance.

1907-03-20: Tesla's Wireless Torpedo
www.tesla.hu...
The image presented before would be the published torpedo.
Perhaps we saw a version of it before cruising in posted video.
Who's to say.


[edit on 3/3/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Thanks for the info, I'll try it. Line two.

[edit on 3-3-2010 by MBF]

The links are working fine tonight. The problem must have been on my end.

[edit on 3-3-2010 by MBF]

Some where in the mass of documents we have of Tesla some
of his operation assumptions are presented.
Perhaps in the early 1892 "Experiments ..." lecture posted on the
web or a published articles not at the collection web site the theory
of radio waves is given as sound waves in the medium.
Tesla probably even said that about Hertz waves.
Apparently that is a main supposition as most anything from
Einstein didn't work for Tesla.

Looking at the posted Colorado Springs Notes from above we can
see how Tesla operated.
Tesla used 40 foot diameter coils to get a length of 2780 feet in only 20 turns.
Total length = turns x 3 x diameter using 3 for the pi number of length of the circumference.
The coil would then be operated for a wavelength 4 x the length
4 x 2780 = 11,120 = 2 x 5280' = 2 miles giving a frequency of
90,000 cps as 186,000 miles/second divided by 90,000 cps
gives 2 miles.

A high school demonstration of a small cone coil
was enough for me however.
The above set up is from the Colorado Spring Notes and has further development
as Tesla deals with the self oscillation of a coil.
The high school demo coil might just have been some wire wrapped around
a form and excited with a low charge of an electrostatic plate rubbed with
wool. I do not recall if pith balls flu around the coil or not.

However once the wire oscillation frequency is known then
small in tune extra voltage should increase the power.
The quarter wave arrangement sends out repetitive pulses
as sound waves that apparently can not be heard unless
hitting something of resonance.
Can this be shown. Does it exist.
Making sound with a transducer can also mean a sound
wave in the medium of Tesla is also generated if a coil is
the driving mechanism.
You get both from a sound transducer using a coil.

Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

Tesla had lots of notes and patents that both Apple and IBM had to work around when designing processors. It is hard to say what future inventions may run into Tesla's patents again. The man dabbled in so many things.

Really? Can you supply some details about this?

OP- Has anyone followed up on his work. Anyone manage to get any of this stuff working or are we just going off of his claims?

reply to post by garritynet


He might be talking about digital circuits.
Years ago on the net someone posted a link to a circuit by Tesla.
So I naturally assumed Tesla did it.




Google Tesla digital circuit, looks like

It is a little known fact that Nikola Tesla is the acknowledged inventor of
the electronic AND logic gate circuit, a critical element of every digital ...

is the first hit.

Everything Tesla is now free however, in public domain except the
stuff some people have kept to themselves, but I have seen patents
that reference the Tesla flat coil.
Most reference to Tesla today is just an attention getter and to
attribute his fame to themselves or their work which might be
bogus Tesla.

1898-11-13: My Submarine Destroyer
direct doc download:
www.tesla.hu...
or browse the page:
www.tesla.hu...

His submarine boat will carry no lives to risk, but can be directed
at a distance of miles from on shore or from the deck of a war ship.
The power to do this will be the electric vibrations of the air used in
wireless telegraphy.

Note: electric vibrations of the air

Yeah but also the ether as sound waves or pressure waves or
longitudinal waves. And the power and control via air or ether pressure.

Since the word He is present we do not have Tesla's expressed writing.
This is where listener may go astray.
Tesla may have said 'air' to ease the understanding as 'veritable ropes
in the air' is used for his aircraft. We checked out the word 'veritable'
and its a good substitute for 'real' and the we would be Tesla researchers.

For the UFOs in water researcher
you might have a chance since Tesla was to power the craft remotely
and thanks to someone the craft may have internal power and of course
be manned instead of remotely controlled. No one ever brought this
up on all the water related sightings. If Tesla could do it so could aliens.
Well lets not go that far. We had enough about Tesla and Mars from
the news papers in his time. I think Tesla found planet waves as a
source of universal driving momentum effects. And when did all those
50x the speed of light particles stop. Check your tuners world science
people.

How do we navigate without Tesla.
Here is something on UFO oscillating navigation markers:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

So people are hard at work using Tesla's scientific discoveries.
Of all the high profile stories that circulate:
www.teslapress.com...
Of all the scientific discoveries , the power to make fertilizer seems
the one people can be making a huge profit with.

Google Prodigal Genius

Nikola Tesla - Prodigal Genius Biography of Nikola Tesla Prodigal Genius.
BIOGRAPHY OF NIKOLA TESLA. 1994 Brotherhood of Life, Inc.,
110 Dartmouth, SE, Albuquerque, New Mexico 87106 USA ...
www.scribd.com/.../
Nikola-Tesla-Prodigal-Genius-Biography-of-Nikola-Tesla -
Cached - Similar

The page with a download link:

Of interest is to search on electron (16 times) and see how he never
left his work at developing the power of the electron in whatever form
he conditioned the electron working.
Concentrating on millions of voltage generation to smash atoms
there was no crossing over to standard science.

The "brush" in Tesla's tube was a beam of electrons.
The electron, however, had not yet been discovered.
Nevertheless, Tesla gave an accurate description of its nature,
demonstrating the remarkable accuracy of his interpretation of strange
phenomena. So sensitive was this electronic beam that a small horseshoe
magnet an inch wide at a distance of six feet caused movement of the
electron beam in either direction, depending on the position in which the
magnet was held.

Thirty years later Dr. Robert A. Millikan rediscovered these rays,
believing them to be vibratory in character like light, and was followed by
Dr. Arthur H. Compton, who proved the existence of cosmic rays consisting
of highvelocity particles of matter, just as Tesla described them. They
started by finding energies of ten million volts; and today the energies are
far up in the billions and even trillions of electron volts. And these and other
investigators describe these rays as shattering atoms of matter producing
showers of debris--just as Tesla predicted.

The electron, however, had a real existence to Tesla.
He accepted it as a kind of sub-atom, a fourth state of 218 matter, as
described by Sir William Crookes, who discovered it. Tesla visualized it as
associated with but not a part of the atom. The electric charge it carried was
entirely distinct from the electron. Electricity, to him, was a fluid much more
highly attenuated than any known form of matter, and with highly specific
properties of its own for which it was not dependent upon matter. The
charge on the electron was due to a surface layer of electricity covering it,
and it could receive many layers, giving it multiple charges, all of which
could be dissipated. These statements were similar to those which he had
published a half-century before.

Verry interesting indeed..
AND, i think it belongs in THIS section of the forum i might add..

Man i wish i had paid more attention in science classes
back in school....

Tesla was the electric man of the ages.
Concentrated on the electron.
Made sensitive receivers and electron bulbs and power transmitters
in the air or 'medium' or ether and a forerunner of the Electrical Universal
controversy that doesn't even hold to his discoveries.
So lets take another look at the atmosphere and Cosmos.
Lets see how others have pondered the 'medium'.

Cosmos without Gravitation

#1 0f 44

The ingredients of the air—oxygen, nitrogen, argon and other
gases—though not in a compound but in a mixture, are found in equal
proportions at various levels of the atmosphere despite great differences
in specific weights. The explanation accepted in science is this:
“Swift winds keep the gases thoroughly mixed, so that except for
water-vapor the composition of the atmosphere is the same throughout
the troposphere to a high degree of approximation.”
(2) This explanation cannot be true. If it were true, then the moment the
wind subsides, the nitrogen should stream upward, and the oxygen should
drop, preceded by the argon. If winds are caused by a difference in weight
between warm and cold air, the difference in weight between heavy gases
high in the atmosphere and light gases at the lower levels should create
storms, which would subside only after they had carried each gas to its
natural place in accordance with its gravity or specific weight.
But nothing of the kind happens.

When some aviators expressed the belief that “pockets of noxious gas”
are in the air, the scientists replied:

“There are no ‘pockets of noxious gas.’ No single gas, and no other likely
mixture of gases, has, at ordinary temperatures and pressures, the same
density as atmospheric air. Therefore, a pocket of foreign gas in that
atmosphere would almost certainly either bob up like a balloon, or sink
like a stone in water.” (3)

Why, then, do not the atmospheric gases separate and stay apart in
accordance with the specific gravities?

#2 of 44

Ozone, though heavier than oxygen, is absent in the lower layers
of the atmosphere, is present in the upper layers, and is not subject
to the “mixing effect of the wind.” The presence of ozone high in the
atmosphere suggests that oxygen must be still higher: “As oxygen
is less dense than ozone, it will tend to rise to even greater heights.”
(4) Nowhere is it asked why ozone does not descend of its own weight
or at least why it is not mixed by the wind with other gases

Questions about the medium that does not separate but like a well
mixed soup or fluid of Tesla.

1896-04-22: Roentgen Ray Investigations
doc download on this page:
www.tesla.hu...

Further investigations concerning the behavior of the various metals in regard to reflection of these radiations have given additional support to the opinion which I have before expressed; namely, that Volta's electric contact series in air is identical with that which is obtained when arranging the metals according to their powers of reflection, the most electro-positive metal being the best reflector. Confining myself to the metals easily experimented upon, this series is magnesium, lead, tin, iron, copper, silver, gold and platinum. The lastnamed metal should be found to be the poorest, and sodium one of the best, reflectors. This relation is rendered still more interesting and suggestive when we consider that this series is approximately the same which is obtained when arranging the metals according to their energies of combination with oxygen, as calculated from their chemical equivalents

Since it is now demonstrated that all bodies reflect more or less, the diffusion through the air is easily accounted for. Observing the tendency to scatter through the air, I have been led to increase the efficiency of reflectors by providing not one; but separated successive layers for reflection, by making the reflector of thin sheets of metal; mica or other substances. The efficiency of mica. as a reflector I attribute chiefly to the fact that it is composed of many superimposed layers which reflect individually. These many successive reflections are, in my opinion, also the cause of the scattering through the air.

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Where did you get this theory from?
do you have any sources or evidences that i could research about?

Originally posted by kr0ss
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

Where did you get this theory from?
do you have any sources or evidences that i could research about?

Bush has no need to invaded Iraq for any of Tesla's secrets.
Besides having the keys to the locks on the Tesla legacy at the
Los Alamos Oppenheimer Library I think he controls the UFOs
as Texas hides most of the UFO in large farms.
One large farm once owned the President Ronald Regan had UFOs
flyover as recently as a few months ago and was once a UFO watch
group hangout. However this as in New Mexico.
No matter Texas or New Mexico Bush must still be in control.

so he's still in control after all?
but you didnt answer my real question, can you tell me where you got that info from?
not that i'm questioning it, but i need to see some kind of evidence with my own eyes.
i'm new in this forum by the way, and this is the most interesting forum i found. the more i dig, the more questions i get. i started researching about tesla in my free time and it's taking me in several different ways.
i wanted to send you a u2u but i haven't got 20 written posts yet so i couldn't, but i have a few questions for you whenever you have the time.
thanks