A million library books to be sent down the mines

This is yet another interesting thing I've heard! I've also heard there was a leaked memo from CITI Bank regarding the holding of all customer's deposits for 7 days Starting in early April....it was later explained by them that this was FDIC's instruction...not theirs.

In this financially crippling time, holding my money from me for even a day could spell disaster, but I see what they're doing....using these held funds to build interest with which they can hope to stay afloat till the end-run where they take all OUR money.

Another worrying point to ponder...why is gas going to go below $2 a gal in April?!! It sounds like something very scary this way comes! I just wish that they'd get ON with it and stop pussy-footin around, the anticipation is killing me! My only question remains...what's it gonna be?
Natural disaster, WW-III, Aliens, Solar Flares, Ahh soo many possibilities, so little time!

I too feel there is more going on here than meets the eye, if they wanted storage for ONLY three years, It seems obvious it would be more cost effective to keep them above ground... This coupled with the seed bank and not only the Mayan calendar but many other ancient cultural documents, including the Bible acclaim to a time of great change no matter what form it comes in - Get prepared people,the wrtings on the wall.

Maybe they should seal them up, like with the David Kelly autopsy results or the thousands of other secret and no doubt controversial CIA (Crooks In Action) and government documents being "preserved"?

Does anybody have a link to a map of the earth for after 2012?

The kicker here is that the caves are a great place to store those books and scrolls no matter what scenario you believe here. This kind of thread can really separates the optimists from the pessimists...
But who is being more logical?

It will be interesting as 2012 gets closer whether we start to see brilliant people such as Musicians, Scientist's and Career Politicians start to disappear. I for one have a contingency plan if things start to appear that some of the best people of human kind are whisked away into some safe grounds.

Project "Weather Balloon" begins.

reply to post by Solasis


Okay, So you want proof, first of all, of course no evidence came from the year 2012 itself, thats impossible. The predictions for 2012 are no different than a weather forecast. When they tell you its going to be raining tomorrow, you pack an umbrella. Well, the forecast for 2012 is castastrophe, prepare for the worst. If it doesn't happen, thank god, all the ancient civilizations were wrong and we'll continue to live our ignorant lives. But if all these warnings are accurate, and there are many warnings, then a major world changing event is coming. Now before I start explaining everything, I am simply going to list a bunch of things those of you willing to learn something, to look up for yourselves and get your own information. Because no matter what I say, or how I say it, or how many references I give you, you will still be skeptical. But if you actually do research, and look up the things I list, you will be able to connect the dots for yourself, and make your own decision based on what you find out. It is the only way to change a skeptics mind. Things to look up, relating to 2012.

The sunspot cycle. Look up past cycles, and present cycles. You can see whats going on right now at www.solarcycle24.com

The earths magnetic field. Look up what it does, how it affects life on this planet, and what consequences it would have should it disappear. Also look up, if it is weakening or not.

Global warming. It is tied in with the magnetic field weakening, and sunspot cycle. It is also happening on the other planets in the solar system. Saturn's atmosphere has changed by 30%. Mars is warming up, and pluto is changing color, those are few examples. Do the rest of the research yourself.

The Mayan Calendar. Starts Aug 11th 3114 BC. Finding any record of civilization before that date is scarce and only theory.

The fifth age. We are nearing the end of the fifth age (world) a cycle of 5125 years.

The precession of the Equinoxes. It is the wobble of the earths axis, which completes a full wobble every 26,000 years. It is how we view space differently in different years. It is also responsible for our seasons. The 26,000 year cycle, ends on the same date as the 5125 year cycle.

The Galactic Alignment. The sun and earth move into precise alignment with the equator of the milky way. It is changing the pull of the earth (its wobble) from going in one direction, to another. Because when you cross that equator, the pull is reversed.

Polar shift, Magnetic, and geographic. Tied in directly with the galactic alignment. Look up its consequences, and how it has happened in the past, as if it were on a schedule. Alaska used be tropical, as if it were once at the equator.

The egyptians and pyramids. The pyramids were built in alignment with orions belt, marking the halfway point of the 26,000 year cycle, cross reference them, with the mayans, and you'll find they have similar pyramids, IN THE SAME ORDER, aligned with orions belt.

The I-Ching. It predicted the same as the mayans and egyptians.

The Incas, and aztecs. Tied in closely with mayans.

The bible. States world wide chaos, and describes the apocalypse, as if it were a polar shift, also, Noah's ark. Major floods come with a geograpic pole shift.

Modern Science. Still proving the mayans right, and don't understand how they had such advanced knowledge of the heavens or time.

Time. It is a cycle, that ends, and begins again. Evidence is found in ice core samples, and volcanic rock.

Do your own research. Asteroids or comets hitting earth is false. Nibiru, is false. There is no evidence to support these. There is evidence to support everything else I have said here, and more. I have just run out of characters in this post. Can so many people be wrong about 2012?

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Well here is the timeline....

Timetable for Central Library closure:

* Feb 25: Archives service closes.
* Feb 27: Stack retrieval service for all departments ends. Language and Literature counter, and drop-in computers service, close – queries for the department will be answered by the Science and Humanities team. Main Central Issue Desk will also close, freeing staff to assist with packing and removal.
* April 1: All other service points close, except ground floor General Readers' Library.
* June 18: General Readers' Library closes.
* Late June: Temporary city library opens in Elliot House.
* July 4: Library Theatre closes.

With all these reference books locked up and inaccessable, I'd say that's going to cause quite an inconvenience to school students and also those studying for higher learning at Universities. To not have access for 3 years seems a bit long.

Such a shame because with a lot of these old books being scanned and uploaded to free sites like archive.org , I can imagine that there will be lot less really old books coming online.

It's almost like Englands history is being locked up and stored away for 3 years.
Of course, it could be with so many becoming aware that having access to the past could be threatening. Just another angle we should consider.

reply to post by xxshadowfaxx


So much of this is untrue.

You're gonna be really really surprised aren't you?

That's a shame.

It's fun to play the world is ending, but if you're ACTUALLY convinced yourself of this craziness... well, let's just say I think that's a shame.

Why?

Well, because you're in for a shock.

And because you don't seem like a complete idiot.

So think about how many other vaguely reasonable people have been suckered into believing this nonsense.

Good luck man... you're in for a hell of a ride, but not for the reasons you think.

I'll answer one of your questions:

Can so many people be wrong about 2012?

Yes and absolutely yes.

Here's some popular beliefs.

Nazism

Neo-Conservationism

Racism



How many of those are right?


I'll GUARANTEE YOU that there were more Nazis in 1942 then people that believe in 2012/Mayan stuff now.

By your logic....


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S&F! this is rather peculiar i think..this may have already been said but i didnt see it on any of the replies.. but, isnt this exactly what they have Iron Mountain for?? Very strange.

The rich folk will need something to read while they're hiding down there....

reply to post by MystikMushroom


Satellites are 'capable' of backing up data as well.
Much has been preserved for future reference and use.

This technology is One of the preferred backup storage mediums:

One of 'my' favorites.....

See the "See also" section in above link for more.

this technique also has excellent potential for fast optical realization because the underlying hyper-spherical computations can be naturally implemented on optical computations.]Ferris?.....Mr. Beuller?.................................Bueller?.....

Mr. Ferris took the 'day' off and made it his Own.....to the astonishment of society as they knew it.....

To be played in a cavespace; airspace near you?.....


[edit on 24-2-2010 by Perseus Apex]

Britain has a notorious history of losing and misplacing (damaging too) of historical documents during renovations. Many transformation of public buildings, especially government departments, lost thousands of records.

This is not a conspiracy, but common sense and a intelligent move by the council.

Now no were in this thread did i say the world was going to end or anything like that just to be clear on that.

I started this thread because i felt it strange that's all the dates just seem fishy then i think of the seed vaults then the government are trying there best to get Britain digital before 2012.

Then you got to ask yourself we are in a credit crunch councils have to cut services and jobs i know my son works for the council there cutting jobs so why would they spend cash on a liberty and cut needed services.

Like i keep saying i do not think we are doomed but i can not say nothing will happen i just don't know it's just that these things stand out to me and that's it.

THANKYOU

reply to post by mars1


So now the world can't do anything "fishy" if it crosses into/near 2012 territory.

I can hear the argument now, "let's try move the library relocation back by twelve months so that no one thinks this has anything to do with ancient Mayans..."

"All in favor?"

reply to post by seethelight


Ha Ha it's called having an open mind to all possibilities you should try it instead of mocking seethelight no you dont.
Moving on thanks for your replies everyone.

THANKYOU

reply to post by mars1


Ok I do believe something big is going to happen in 2012, but... I dont think this book thing is anything to worry about just yet, its when libraries in other cities and countries announce they are placing books underground... thats when I will start worrying.

Good thread anyway!

reply to post by justjoemusic


You make a good point there me i don't know i just saw this then other thing popped in the head and it just makes you think it could be all normal but we can not know that for certain so im keeping an open mind.

THANKYOU

I actually know someone that works for Manchester library and have a very good friend that works for Reading library.

The Manchester library renovation has been planned for a very long time, apparently the building is carrying so much weight (volume of books) that it will get to a point where it becomes dangerous - the (above ground) floors are starting to bow with the weight of the books. The underground storage simply comes down to being cost-effective, especially when libraries are being considered as low priority for local council funding.

I've heard there's talk of "minor" outlying libraries shutting down, certainly the Reading library is running on a skeleton crew AND both Reading and Manchester libraries have very few librarians - you need a specific degree to be a librarian and that puts you on a higher pay scale, that local councils don't want to pay, so instead you get staff that aren't technically librarians - although they're virtually all degree-level and good at their jobs.

As for students being affected, this isn't too likely, universities have decent libraries, Manchester has 3 Universities all with good libraries. This will affect those students wanting to do more specialised research on some specific texts however.

The point made about books/texts getting lost is a good one though, this is an exercise in administration by people that are managers trying to trim the fat anywhere they can.

I don't think there's a conspiracy here - BUT, if anything does occur 2012-wise I'd rather the books be in a safe place.

Edit to add:

If we're thinking of library mis-management...

Manchester library recently extended its video library to include a blu-ray section, where they gave out the blu-rays in their original cases because it was cheaper than ordering some generic, library-style ones, there are also lower standards for joining the library now with regards to ID - because this might lead to discrimination against people that might want library access. Surprisingly there is no more blu-ray in the library as none of it got returned.

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reply to post by Rising Against


i dont know if anyone has seen the movie Anges and Demons but in the atican they show a room that holds scard text..it has a lower oxygen level as to maximize the books shelf life..now why would we not put these books somewhere like this instead of in a cave? seems safer this way to me fishy

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
right - a few facts to cut throught the BS growing in this thread

the contents of ONE library - just one - are being relocated to protect them during a major building project - its that freaking simple

the library is shutting , while important restoration and work is carried out on the st peters square site

no other major library in the uk is shutting / relocating collections

examples include :

the bodelian , the british library , john rylands [ also in manchester - and significantly - it is now fully reopened after a closure two years ago for major renovations to the building - and guess what ? its colletions were put in storage too ] the chetam library [ also in manchester - will remain open

Exactly!

If the Rylands collection were being moved to this mine-location AFTER they had just finished the extensive refurbishments there, then there would be some grounds for crazy speculation

The reason they're emptying the building is because the 4 floors of book stacks (1 at ground level, 3 below) not only serve as shelving space for the archives, but are also form part of the load-bearing structural fabric in themselves, supporting the floors of the building above.







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