The Bloom Box: An Energy Breakthrough?

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Looks like one of these biodigesters would fuel it -- just get some pigs or cows...

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DESIGN Because corners leak and isolate material the best are round. A popular design is like two bowls, one inverted over the other. The feed pipe leads diagonally into one side half way between top and bottom. This arrangement causes the charging of material to stir up the mixture. The exhaust pipe leads diagonally to the other side half way down. This prevents the sludge from clogging up the exiting effluent and separates it from the sludge. The gas collects in the dome above the liquid and is fed into the pipes for use. It includes a manhole for access for cleaning and repair. The latrine contains a separate tube leading into the feed pipe. The main feed pipe is arranged to accept the barn sweepings and vegetable martial, straw, weeds, etc. The outlet might include a reservoir to hold the effluent until needed. In some units it is guided through troughs to the garden.

This is bull#, the video is staged and anything that involves a multi million dollar company promoting it automatically tarnishes the product. Who are the financial backers?

This has American propaganda written all over it

Actually you are supposed to get a tax break for using clean energy. For instance if you add solar panels to your home, you get like a $3,000 tax deduction. So in theory, you would not only save money on your electric bill by using this, but also pay less taxes.

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King of the Rocketmen will get to the bottom of this:

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Originally posted by franspeakfree
This is bull#, the video is staged and anything that involves a multi million dollar company promoting it automatically tarnishes the product. Who are the financial backers?

This has American propaganda written all over it

What do you mean by a "staged" video? It's a 60-Minutes piece on the technology and the guy who invented it. Are you saying that it doesn't even work? Are you saying that Ebay, FedEx, Google, and the other places already using them is just a lie?

Why does a "multi-million dollar company" promoting something "tarnish" it? These things cost an assload to create and distirbute, in other words, it cost millions of dollars to create, so how else would it be financed? Would you be more inclined to believe and support it if it was just some guy in his garage? I don't think so!

American propaganda? Please elaborate?

If its a cheap (or will be cheap once mass produced) source of clean energy, why would you not embrace it? Do you work for GE? :-)

Originally posted by Blazer
What do you mean by a "staged" video? It's a 60-Minutes piece on the technology and the guy who invented it. Are you saying that it doesn't even work? Are you saying that Ebay, FedEx, Google, and the other places already using them is just a lie?

Erm...that's what your saying, I did not mention they didn't work, go back and watch the video again. towards the end when they introduce the ceo of EBAY listen to the rehearsed script.

This is a typical American propaganda type programme, the sort of thing you will see on CNN and Fox news.

Why does a "multi-million dollar company" promoting something "tarnish" it? These things cost an assload to create and distirbute, in other words, it cost millions of dollars to create, so how else would it be financed? Would you be more inclined to believe and support it if it was just some guy in his garage? I don't think so!

No again I didn't say anything about a guy in the garage, the fact that the CEO of ebay has bought them suggests fould play, please before your reply, research this man and look how he made his money and funded his businesses, people that high up will only be in it if they can have a piece of the action.

If its a cheap (or will be cheap once mass produced) source of clean energy, why would you not embrace it? Do you work for GE? :-)

Whoa thar, I didn't say I wouldn't embrace it I am doing everything I physically can in order to make my house,life more energy efficient. I am one the biggest fans of clean energy, the problem is, as tesla found out. There are forces at work on this planet that will prevent any new type of energy unles 'they' can harness it and profit from it.

I believe it was J.P.Morgan who said "How can we harness it so that everyone has to pay for it"

One example of a complete scripted propaganda from the American Government the closer you look the more of an illusion it becomes.



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Originally posted by franspeakfree

Originally posted by Blazer
What do you mean by a "staged" video? It's a 60-Minutes piece on the technology and the guy who invented it. Are you saying that it doesn't even work? Are you saying that Ebay, FedEx, Google, and the other places already using them is just a lie?

Erm...that's what your saying, I did not mention they didn't work, go back and watch the video again. towards the end when they introduce the ceo of EBAY listen to the rehearsed script.

LOL. Of course it's a rehearsed script. Its a TV spot...it wasn't shot live. They prepare these things probably a month in advance...I don't understand why this is raising a red flag with you?

Originally posted by franspeakfree
This is a typical American propaganda type programme, the sort of thing you will see on CNN and Fox news.

Can you name any news show on television that is not "propaganda"? I'm still unclear if you are saying that the device functionality is a lie, or that you just dont trust the source?

Why does a "multi-million dollar company" promoting something "tarnish" it? These things cost an assload to create and distirbute, in other words, it cost millions of dollars to create, so how else would it be financed? Would you be more inclined to believe and support it if it was just some guy in his garage? I don't think so!

Originally posted by franspeakfree
No again I didn't say anything about a guy in the garage, the fact that the CEO of ebay has bought them suggests fould play, please before your reply, research this man and look how he made his money and funded his businesses, people that high up will only be in it if they can have a piece of the action.

Why the hell is it foul play if Ebay is helping test it? If you don't trust the CEO of Ebay, then fine I guess, but there are a dozen other top companies also testing this technology. I'm sure they will get a "piece" of it in the form of discounted units, or if anything just kudos for investing and testing it first, which is good PR for them. That doesn't mean there is some evil intention?

If its a cheap (or will be cheap once mass produced) source of clean energy, why would you not embrace it? Do you work for GE? :-)

Originally posted by franspeakfree
Whoa thar, I didn't say I wouldn't embrace it I am doing everything I physically can in order to make my house,life more energy efficient. I am one the biggest fans of clean energy, the problem is, as tesla found out. There are forces at work on this planet that will prevent any new type of energy unles 'they' can harness it and profit from it.

I believe it was J.P.Morgan who said "How can we harness it so that everyone has to pay for it"

I agree with you on this point. I'm sure the utilities would not like hearing about a cheap clean energy source that people could use instead of buying from them. So I would expect that either the utilities will buy it up and resell it (they even mention that in the video), or that they or other PTB would find a way to either sweep it under the rug (just like various "cancer cures" that we hear about once and never again), or launch a bad-PR campaign to scare people away from it.

Originally posted by Silicis n Volvo
in france if you produce your own electricity you must sell it to the national grid and then buy it back at a slightly higher cost.

That is not correct. As in many other EU countries you sell your own electricity at a higher price then the electricity you buy. There is a law that states this and the big companies can't refuse to buy your electricity.

As stated before, the Bloom box is only a highly efficient natural gas electric generator. You need methane, propane or whatever to run this generator.

By the way, 3000$ is ok, it's the price of a good condensing boiler.

Originally posted by looofo
By the way, 3000$ is ok, it's the price of a good condensing boiler.

Agreed, especially if it would actually run your entire house, which a $3k solar setup will not do. I know some people spend $20k on solar setups for their house, and they are still not 100% off the grid.

I think the important thing to find out is exactly how much fuel input does this thing need, as I said it does no good if I lower my electric bill by $200 and my gas bill goes up $300. Even if it breaks even it's not worth it. I want to see specs, maybe they will release that info in their news conference on Wednesday.

Originally posted by Blazer
or that they or other PTB would find a way to either sweep it under the rug (just like various "cancer cures" that we hear about once and never again), or launch a bad-PR campaign to scare people away from it.

Yep something like, little johnny could be exposed to invisible radiation which will increase the risk of a brain tumour. We have heard this all before somewhere haven't we?

I have nothing against the product, its just that lots of people associate clean energy with a new world a world without power and greed. Unfortunately, the same people are going to harness it and the same people are going to benefit from it. You don't get anything in this world for nothing.

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I think the oil companys will let this one go. The oil companys have plenty of natural gas coming out of their wells, and something like this could really make the price of natual gas go up if it catches on. This is by no means the answer we're looking for, this still allows for control of the population.

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Are the people you know using one of these?
www.potentialtec.com... Its a Large Bedini 10 Pole Monopole.
Are they using a radiant charger in their system?

As I understand it these two things will greatley increase your systems energy efficiency to the point where you can be totally off the grid.

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Will this "Bloom Box" be better than solar panels producing free energy from the sun???

How is it better?
I thought that with solar you get all the energy you want and for night time it is stored in batteries. Seems ever lasting to me.
I wonder if this bloom box will be super expensive or how often does it have to maintained.

A fuel cell that runs on natural gas isn't as revolutionary as it sounds. If the cost is low enough it could be used to generate clean energy, but it is not going to change our situation drastically with peak oil.

I guess it's worth pondering too, that even if it is "break even". In other words, if using this made your electric bill go down $200 but you gas bill go up $200, would it still be worth using because of:

1) Getting "off the grid". This is nice because during a grid power outage your house would still have power (since the gas lines are still working unless there was a major earthquake or something)

2) Natural gas is cleaner/greener to use than electricity, which is mostly generated by coal-fired power plants.

3) Natural gas is way more abundant than oil and coal. Since this thing can run on "biogas" it also makes it even more clean and green since you don't necessarily even need natural gas to fuel it.

Just some things to ponder.

P.S. JahKinG SouLJaH, solar power is still grossly inefficient. Like I said I know of people who spent over $20,000.00 on a solar system for their home and they are still not 100% off the grid, although they do resell some of their excess power back to the utility company.

In my Opinion, im not too sure about this..
I mean, think about it, this takes off, some time in the future
Lots of houses are now using this Box, soon enough, almost the whole world is on them, Everyone is happy Until they say: Ok we're running out of Oxygen, and make you pay taxes on it,, to support the NWO.

THe real solution is a Box that grabes Zero Point energy, NO Gas or Oxygen of any source required,, this is what will reallly be interensting

Im not too sure about this Bloom box using Gas and oxygen,, seems like they will call a Oxygen crises and tax all us on Oxygen. What do Ya think?

Unfortunately the amount of hype this thing is getting usually is a very good indicator of it being nothing more than snake oil. Look at Steorn and their E-Orbo box or whatever it was called, they had all kinds of hype going then disappeared into nothingness. These people know that the alternative energy field is hot right now and will try to sell anything to people if they think they can squeeze a profit out of it.

I'm not too sure about this new technology, but here's what I am sure about...

The wires used in those "solar cells" are 98% plastic.

I think the first thing that the uneducated public needs to learn is that ALL plastic is OIL.

Don't even get me started on electric cars. Tires=oil. Paint for the car=oil. Plastics used in cars=oil.

Give me an energy source that doesn't use ANY oil whatsoever, and I'll consider it. Until then, remember that oil is in just about everything we use today.

I do agree that we need to start limiting the amount of oil that we use every day, but once you do that, you will soon realize that without oil you will be living without technology.

Originally posted by mandoSD
I mean, think about it, this takes off, some time in the future
Lots of houses are now using this Box, soon enough, almost the whole world is on them, Everyone is happy Until they say: Ok we're running out of Oxygen, and make you pay taxes on it,, to support the NWO.

LOL, if the entire world is "running out of Oxygen", we have much bigger problems than any NWO!

Originally posted by mandoSD
THe real solution is a Box that grabes Zero Point energy, NO Gas or Oxygen of any source required,, this is what will reallly be interensting

I'm a Stargate fan myself, but despite that, I don't think creating a ZPM is within our current or forseeable future technological capability!

Originally posted by mandoSD
Im not too sure about this Bloom box using Gas and oxygen,, seems like they will call a Oxygen crises and tax all us on Oxygen. What do Ya think?

Seriously, if there really was an Oxygen shortage, you would gladly pay a tax rather than SUFFOCATE would you not? I'd like to think that before the entire planet was deemed to be running out of O2, they would stop using the units or find some other gas that makes it work

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