The Bloom Box: An Energy Breakthrough?

reply to post by pteridine


The fuel coudl come from gasification of wood, coal, or even trash.

reply to post by Cosmicdjinn


Where can I buy those NanoAntennas you talk about?

-rrr

reply to post by serbsta

Power sub stations and individual boxes in back yards. sounds kinda like what Tesla was trying to do while he was alive. His invention truly worked, and certainly would qualify as truly free energy. We are starting to see his inventions being used here in this Cell Phone Charging mat at Target!

www.target.com... 83-3190341-2400504?_encoding=UTF8&CPNG=Sports&LID=23744852&search-alias=tgt-index&keywords=charger-mat&searchSize=30&ref=tgt_adv%5FXSGT0738&searchView =grid5&searchNodeID=1038576&AFID=Google&searchPage=1&searchRank=target104545&LNM=charger%5Fmat

A little tweaking to this and you could use this as a charging circuit in an electric car, thereby removing the need to plug the car in to recharge after a few short miles! I doubt though we will ever see this happen, because TPB would not be able to get richer.

Originally posted by ViperFoxBat
This changes everything. You could live off the grid just about anywhere in the world. You could use cow poop to fuel this thing. The electricity produced on the farm could be used for many things. Electric gardening equipment. An electric tractor! You will just need to figure out how to pay taxes.

I thought it required natural gas... Does it really burn any organic fuel? where can I get more information about how it works? I've tried to google but there are too many links about their media buzz, which isn't helping me find any "facts"

-rrr

the energy from the Bloom Box is produced by utilizing natural gas, and one of the by-products, hydrogen can be further processed to drive cars. “Our method can utilize fossil fuels such as natural gas. Our system can utilize renewable fuels such as landfill gas and bio-gas. We can also utilize solar,” Sridhar explained.

The Bloom Box is basically a thin ceramic plate that can be stacked on top of other similar plates. The energy transmission is wireless but this module can also be connected to an electric grid.
Sridhar, an Indian born Ph.D. used to work for NASA to develop technologies to sustain life on Mars. His company, Bloom has been working for a decade to produce the Bloom Box which will soon be ready for commercial sale.


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reply to post by serbsta


The new " must have job" would be a bloombox technician.......Eventually they will find something that fails on a few boxes that can be easily repaired , so having that job would probably make you a lot of money......

This is big news! Did they say vehicles can be powered by this thing? If they can make it so it turnsall our waste into energy it will be the greatest thing ever!!

I hope they release this soon!

Originally posted by Freq Of Nature
This is big news! Did they say vehicles can be powered by this thing? If they can make it so it turnsall our waste into energy it will be the greatest thing ever!!

I hope they release this soon!

powers vehicles....kind of like this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/baca8a4b79d2.jpg[/atsimg]

Sorry, I couldn't resist

reply to post by Aggie Man


Very funny

But if its possible they should release them asap!!!

[edit on 22-2-2010 by Freq Of Nature]

Originally posted by masonicon
this is can be very useful during the time of societal collapse

Or for Tupperware parties!

-rrr

reply to post by DJM8507


Those are in my opinion ideal, but they will have to make sure the failure modes are all accounted for with special attention to containment. Of course, this should be obvious, but I think this is the most important point. Layer upon layer of protective material in case a spill ever happens. If reactors are mass produced, failures are bound to happen, so they better be well contained.

-rrr

reply to post by SpacePunk


Coal gasification produces a mixture of hydrogen and carbon monoxide. This is the old "producer gas" of local gas houses. Modern high temperature gasifiers are much cleaner than the old Lurgi units, but they still are not without problems. In addition to the costs of production, there would have to be transport of the gas. Synthetic natural gas, as that produced by the Great Plains Gasifier in North Dakota may be a solution but these are not small units and the NIMBY problem will prevent construction until eople are freezing in the dark.
Given all of this, the advantages of the fuel cell may be offset by costs and environmental constraints.

reply to post by XL5


It never said that it was going to create free energy... just more efficient and cleaner is what the quote says.

reply to post by argentus


Ya, you need to get on that thread , I for one am very curious how it worked out for you, and how you went about it, also if you came across any problems or better ways to implement. GO GO GO.

U2U me when you create your thread pleasssse

As long as we will still be dependent on big fuel suppliers it will be allowed.

If it's on 60 minutes it is corporation approved.

Your bill won't go down, the cost per unit of fuel will increase exponentially.

reply to post by serbsta


Yeah, coming out in the open was probably a good move for this company. My guess is that they have been very secretive due to the fact that they didn't want big energy to know how close they were to mass production. They've managed to raise $400 million in startup capital. The investors are taking a huge gamble, and are going to want return on investment as soon as possible. This usually involves perfecting the technology, then selling it to the highest bidder. The Web Extras had a portion of the interview with the tech media guy not shown on TV. He believes you have about a 30% chance to see one of these sitting in your backyard someday, but stressed that it would probably be labeled "GE". Some here are laughing at the 15% power figure in the Ebay center. First of all, large office buildings that size use HUGE amounts of power, so 15% is quite a bit of power generation for the size of Ebay's 5 boxes. Second, it was a test run by Ebay. In a test of new gizmos, you don't want to totally rely on the gizmo. They are helping Bloom "work out the bugs", basically.

They are making an announcement on Wednesday, I will be very interested to see what they say.

Things I find interesting about this:
* Apparently these can also be used to generate O2 to terraform a planet (Mars)? I'd like to see specs on how much O2 the prototype unit put out, just to see how large/many of them it would take to have any impact on adding O2 to the mars atmosphere.

* If this thing comes to market cheaply enough for average people to get one, how will the utility companies react? Buying them all up and reselling them, Buying them all up and sweep it under the rug, or launch a campaign to scare people into not buying them?

* These things would be great for providing power to remote locations that are otherwise off the grid. All you would need is a periodically refilled propane tank to fuel it.

* Electric cars - both as a direct power source, or, having one of these small cubes to easily create a recharge station for your electric car, instead of paying the cost of having a dedicated 220v circuit installed in your garage.

* What about smaller ones? What if you used like only 2 of the wafers to power some LED landscape lighting, with the fuel source being a small gas canister that would only need refilling/replacing every few months.

* The large ones are expensive...What if a community, say 10 houses, pooled their resources and got a large unit that would either directly provide power for their homes, or serve as a shared backup/emergency power in the case of the grid going down.

Lots of possibilities!

reply to post by Blazer


I like your speculation. I think you have the right idea, logistically speaking. I hope this device is safe, and I hope the big energy corps don't shut it down, or fail to shut it down. I would like to know exactly how it works, equations included, just so we can test it on paper for ourselves and make sure it actually does work. If it defies physics, then it is a scam lol.

I don't think it's a scam since Ebay, Google, FedEx, etc are already using them. I would like to see the full specs on how it works, but I realize that some of it probably has to stay secret until the patent goes through.

The main thing I want to see right now, is exactly how much "fuel" (natural gas, biogas, whatever), does it require.

In other words, it won't do me much good if I use one of these to power my house, and my electric bill goes down $200, but my gas bill goes up $300 :-)

As for the cost, I think the price is high right now because they are making these things by hand one at a time, one per day. If they got an automated industrial production process going, the price to produce them would be way less, but that won't happen unless it "takes off".

the taxes they will count on the box will be to high to yuse them... :-(
it will end in an museum...as an relic to beat the system...