Absolute proof: A Pentagon picture montage from start to finish

That's shocking. The large and perfect hole looks like a missile hit the building.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by hmmmbeer
My first question is what is it doing OUTSIDE on the lawn.

Oh dear, here we have a conspiracy theorist who has no idea at all how the Pentagon was built! I strongly suggest you have a look at some aerial pictures of the Pentagon....

For now, can we agree to stick to the photos in the first post

Why would that be? Because you do not want to look at photo's that totally destroy the no plane hit the Pentagon conspiracy theory!

Regardless of what hit the building, as someone mentioned earlier, does the Pentagon not have a missle defense system!!?? Is the Pentagon that vulnerable to a hit by any flying object? No one at the Pentagon had a clue a strike was headed their way!!?? BS!! That is pretty damn scary.

This is typical of all conspiracy theorists, they totally ignore all the evidence that destroys their silly conspiracy theory!

Sorry, an error on my part.

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[edit on 6-2-2010 by aero56]

O.K. ....I was gonna reply again but I just spotted a disinfo agent....

I'm Outta here...

Re: the F16 issue - unless I'm mistaken the US Navy doesn't have F16s. It is a land based plane. Perhaps the turbine shaft could have come from a Global Hawk or other such drone?
Whatever hit the Pentagon is sufficiently visible in the security gate film for it's identity as an F16 to be determined, and it does not look like one.

reply to post by rainfall


So, anyone who disagrees with you is a disinformation agent?

Interesting reality you live in.

Originally posted by aero56

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by hmmmbeer
My first question is what is it doing OUTSIDE on the lawn.

Oh dear, here we have a conspiracy theorist who has no idea at all how the Pentagon was built! I strongly suggest you have a look at some aerial pictures of the Pentagon....

For now, can we agree to stick to the photos in the first post

Why would that be? Because you do not want to look at photo's that totally destroy the no plane hit the Pentagon conspiracy theory!



This is typical of all conspiracy theorists, they totally ignore all the evidence that destroys their silly conspiracy theory!

[edit on 6-2-2010 by aero56]

Regardless of what hit the building, is the Pentagon without a missile defense system?? Is the Pentagon that vulnerable to an incoming "plane" or missile?? No one at the Pentagon saw this flying object headed their way?? That is pretty damn scary.

reply to post by Thermo Klein



I know someone who was on the road and saw it happen. (The plane fly by and hit)
Some people can convince themselves of just about anything these days.

reply to post by Hmmm101


"Until a real unbiased investigation is done, and the 50 something odd video's that were confiscated and never released are revealed"

My question is, When will the people who had there 50 something odd videos come forward? Is there proof they were confiscated and if so, where are they? Did they make any duplicates.... Who confiscated them? The Pentagon being a great historical and political building, there has to be someone else with a video of what happened that day....

Look at how many footages of the World Trade Center there were. Plenty to see 2 planes hitting the towers. And as far as the Pentagon..we have a meer security camera with a glitch and then an explosion.

This is really the only proof that is concrete enough to show to my friends.

Anything else they call "bs" on. I showed them how there was CLEAR proof by over 2,000 architectural builders that NANO THERMITE was present in ground zero after the attack.

What did they tell me when I presented this?

"Those guys are just making stuff up..."

WOW. So apparently some people rather believe that the American Architectural Foundation LIED about EVIDENCE they found...and instead believe the BULL# OS.

reply to post by mitman93


I just searched for "american architectural foundation thermite" on google and got no results. Could you post a link?

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa

Originally posted by CAELENIUM
I am informed by amature plane spotters that flight 77 landed at Cleveland Airport safe and sound. The same spotters reported that all the crew and passengers were taken to a NASA building at the Cleveland Airport and were never witnessed coming out ever.

And you think the scenario you describe above is easier and more logical than just using the plane as a weapon?

Seriously? You think that the government wanted to simulate an attack on the Pentagon and figured the easiest, most foolproof plan was to hide the plane at a public airport, escort the passengers and crew to a "NASA building", execute them, and summarily attempt to hide the bodies?

Following that, you think their devious plot would have gone off perfectly if it weren't for amateur plane spotters who were both at the Pentagon AND Cleveland airport that morning (how they beat a plane from the Pentagon to Cleveland is beyond me, they must have invested in a warp drive), who knew which building was the "NASA building", and stayed there to make sure those people came out again?

What you want to believe is up to you. I know what I know. Your country USA has been robbed of all its gold on 911 and thus is nolonger the worlds number one economy that it used to be. The witness reports that I have read were read by others all over Europe and around the world. Strange that citizens in the USA never get to recieve these informations. The Chancellor of Germany himself stated openly that 911 were an inside job. I am merely reporting to you what I know to be the truth. If your USA government is controlled by its military which in its turn is subordinate to the Military Industrial Complex as fortold after WW2 by President Truman [excuse spelling mistakes I am not an American] then it only goes to show that the USA is just like every other "rogue nation".
Flight 77 was ordered to drop to below the radar altitude and thus proceed off the radar to Cleveland Airport. Apon landing all crew and passengers were taken to a NASA building never to be seen or heard of ever again. That is the truth of what various witnesses report in their officially documented statements to Interpol.
That flight 77 was then replaced by a F16 USA Navy fighter jet which rose up to replace flight 77 on the radar. That F16 then attacked the pentagon. Why ? All this is so as to deflect public debate away from the really serious events of that day 911 where in your country USA was robbed of all its Gold Reserve. An inside job means that your country USA was robbed by your USA military.
This kind of internal corruption is going on in just about every country in the world. So do not be smug pretending that such wickedness is only a problem in the USA.

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reply to post by CAELENIUM


Please answer my question.

I don't care about gold, or the American economy (not an American citizen). Quite honestly, MY country has a lot to gain from your country slipping economically.

All I want if for you to answer my simple question without dodging the issue.

[edit on 2/6/2010 by VneZonyDostupa]

Originally posted by Teabags
reply to post by Thermo Klein

 

I know someone who was on the road and saw it happen. (The plane fly by and hit)
Some people can convince themselves of just about anything these days.

That must have been traumatic and difficult to see. I think if I saw a plane go over, then a large explosion, I would think the same thing. From a Psychological aspect, our mind would naturally assume the most obvious reality, especially in something so unusual and emotional! Also from a Psychological and Law perspective people are often incorrect in what they see.

From page 2:
There are a few witnesses like that - there are also witnesses who saw "the plane" fly away from, and very close above, the other side of the Pentagon. A well-timed explosion and black smoke hiding the plane's escape would definitely have been confusing. Our mind would naturally put two and two together indicating very truthfully in our own mind that we saw an airplane crash into the Pentagon.

Unfortunately I will trust an explosion with no wreckage over anyone's eyewitness account.

To mitman93 and VneZonyDostupa

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by mitman93


I just searched for "american architectural foundation thermite" on google and got no results. Could you post a link?

It's not up to me what is posted here, but please consider not getting off the track of 9/11 Pentagon aspects. This is a very specific thread and going into the entire 9/11 NYC aspect will derail page after page. Mind you, I'm not telling you what to do, only asking that you remain aware and consider your postings.


[edit on 6-2-2010 by Thermo Klein]

reply to post by Thermo Klein


I was requesting information about another poster's claim. Suck it up.

There was an engineer who was on site soon after this happened, and he worked on it for months, on-site, to figure out exactly what happened. It was a nice special where I saw the results, and where the hole, including the smaller one inside, on another wall, were explained in detail. Just because you are not an engineer and can't fathom how something happened, doesn't mean it's impossible.

This guy was actually PO'd when they mentioned how some people felt it was a missile, or nothing at all. He in a nutshell, said that he has over 30 years of experience with this sort of thing, and he gets disgusted when people jump to conclusions, when the facts are there for the finding. He did the work, hundreds of hours, and there was no doubt in his mind this was caused by that plane.

But whatever.. nothing anyone says will sway you, if you think it's a coverup. People who think there is some conspiracy can't even agree with each OTHER about this plane. You expect us to believe you are all-knowing about the physics of a plane crashing into the Pentagon? Fly over, missile, nothing at all.. a bomb was exploded, and so on. Get your own story straight first perhaps.

Plane or no/plane belief aside...

I find it truly astonishing (and it's been said thousands of times since..)that one
of the most highly guarded buildings on the planet has not captured a single clear image of an enormous commercial airliner flying directly into it.

Sept. 11th 2010 will be the ninth anniversary of the tragedies which occurred that day and still we wait for the government to provide adequate proof / evidence of this incident.

If there is indeed no conspiracy why can the department of defence and /or the government not lay this to rest for once and for all?

If it is indeed the case that no such footage exists then why?

How can they proclaim it to be such a well fortified and internationally important building when a huge plane can fly into it and through it and it is not even tracked / recorded.

Boggles the mind.

Also the cctv footage from the nearby hotels / gas stations etc, where are the ones that were confiscated that day?


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reply to post by fleabit


This post actually makes me angry.... why the heck couldn't that guy just take some frickin' PICTURES!!!

My mind is not set by some preconceived hate, lack of patriotism, anything like that... my mind is made up by facts and pictures. If what this guy says is true then he is doing a great inservice to or country by not showing what he knows.

By the way - the facts are absolutely NOT there for the finding and I in no way jumped to conclusions. In 8-9 years I have NEVER seen proof of an airplane crash there.


[edit on 6-2-2010 by Thermo Klein]

Originally posted by Thermo Klein
To mitman93 and VneZonyDostupa

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by mitman93


I just searched for "american architectural foundation thermite" on google and got no results. Could you post a link?

It's not up to me what is posted here, but please consider not getting off the track of 9/11 Pentagon aspects. This is a very specific thread and going into the entire 9/11 NYC aspect will derail page after page. Mind you, I'm not telling you what to do, only asking that you remain aware and consider your postings.

Yes. That is it is it not. Just continue to deflect the debate towards the incident at the pentagon so that no one will ever figure out what it was really all about that day. GOLD ROBBERY.
The theives are a "Jewish Conspiracy" [zionism][Illuminati][Freemasonic] who are using capitalism and militarism [drugs and sex and violence] to do to the world in all its entirety the same as the Hebrews did to the inhabitats of the Land of Cannan [genocide] as reported in the Book of Deuteronomy.


[edit on 6/2/2010 by CAELENIUM]

Originally posted by fleabit
There was an engineer who was on site soon after this happened, and he worked on it for months, on-site, to figure out exactly what happened. It was a nice special where I saw the results, and where the hole, including the smaller one inside, on another wall, were explained in detail. Just because you are not an engineer and can't fathom how something happened, doesn't mean it's impossible.

This guy was actually PO'd when they mentioned how some people felt it was a missile, or nothing at all. He in a nutshell, said that he has over 30 years of experience with this sort of thing, and he gets disgusted when people jump to conclusions, when the facts are there for the finding. He did the work, hundreds of hours, and there was no doubt in his mind this was caused by that plane.

But whatever.. nothing anyone says will sway you, if you think it's a coverup. People who think there is some conspiracy can't even agree with each OTHER about this plane. You expect us to believe you are all-knowing about the physics of a plane crashing into the Pentagon? Fly over, missile, nothing at all.. a bomb was exploded, and so on. Get your own story straight first perhaps.

"Experts" like as this "Engineer" chappie are immediately planted by the crowd who obviously want to deflect your attentions away from what really hit the pentagon. It does not matter what hit the pentagon. The pentagon planned it all down the line. So as to distract public observations away from events in NYC [New York City] and especially to draw attention away from the fact that the USA WTC [World Trade Centre] via underground tunnels was robbed of its gold reserve. Who robbed the USA ? The "Jewish Conspiracy" of Zionists and Illuminati and other classification of Freemasons working in the USA military industrial complex. The Jewish Problem really is a problem. It is real.
The theives are a "Jewish Conspiracy" [Zionism][Illuminati][Freemasonic] who are using capitalism and militarism [drugs and sex and violence] to do to the world in all its entirety the same as the Hebrews did to the inhabitants of the Land of Cannan [genocide] as reported in the Book of Deuteronomy.

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