FED kills a real life friend (former ATS member & Military Man of 12yrs) - PLEASE help solve this!

reply to post by Doc Velocity


Exactly, none of it makes sense.

I have just written/typed up letters to send into the CIA, and the Marine Corps using the FOIA to try and get some information on Darius Hill.

I will let you know how that goes, but I assume if it's a cover up I wont be getting anything other than some military records at most.

But it's worth a shot, never know, mistakes are made and it is definitely worth a shot... but I wont keep my hopes up.

And thanks for the responses. And for whoever said that ATS wont be of help, think again. If they took his computer, either there was something they needed off of it, OR they took it for it to go along with their story. He may have had information he didn't even know he had, or knew he had it but didn't know it was going to get him killed. I'm unsure, but I will keep searching and researching and talking to whomever is willing to help until I get to the bottom of this.

And yes, I'm aware that me getting involved in this may put me at risk, especially if I start getting anywhere close to the truth. But let it be known I made this thread, and if it disappears, and I stop posting, well... look for my obituary in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

Edit to add this .pdf about his conviction from the US Marine Corps, which can be seen here.

[edit on 4-2-2010 by highlyoriginal]

I did some searching, I don't know if this is him at all but it is very possible...

American Mad Man's Profile

He was banned sometime ago...
Last Visit: April 10, 2006
Threads Started: 85
Total Replies: 2,267
Post Count: 4,239
Applause: 10

And the one thread caught my eye...
Happy birth day to the US Marine Corps

I'm still going to continue looking, but that could be him, although last visit was 2006, and my friend was talking to him up until his death I believe (not completely sure though have to ask him) and he was talking about ATS and aliens then... I'll update when I can.

reply to post by Faiol


As a soldier he had a lot higher chance of seeing something he shouldn't have. When someone does see something they shouldn't have they are killed, silenced, or aren't taken seriously anyway. The penalty for breaking that silence is death. If our government thought he poised a threat they would kill him in a heartbeat. That why I would like to know, I wanna know if he was on to something. If he did get kicked off a couple years ago, and this was recent, then I'm guessing he did not post it on ATS anyway

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
"Searching for child pornography" is a common excuse the FBI uses for raiding homes and confiscating computers, even though the defendants strongly deny the charge. Making the child pornography charge is so horrifying to most people, they automatically distance themselves from the defendant — even family members will distance themselves.

The FBI is counting on that fact to diminish opposition to its unlawful searches and seizures. If they can turn everyone against the defendant, that makes the FBI's case easier, and there's nothing like a charge of child pornography to alienate a defendant.

It's a totally trumped-up charge, of course, as is the allegation that this man shot himself in the mouth after being shot 6 times at close range by FBI agents. This man was murdered, undoubtedly, and an FBI agent pulled the trigger.

— Doc Velocity

[edit on 2/4/2010 by Doc Velocity]

Doc you always come up with some straight forward answers.
A star to you. And this is a very sad story.
I'm going to Star and Flag this thread as well. Hopefully it will get the attention it needs.


[edit on 4-2-2010 by Violater1]

reply to post by Pajjikor


I completely agree, that's why I need to figure this out, not just for the sake of knowing but also to ease the minds of those who cared for him.

Originally posted by Violater1

Doc you always come up with some straight forward answers.
A star to you. And this is a very sad story.
I'm going to Star and Flag this thread as well. Hopefully it will get the attention it needs.


[edit on 4-2-2010 by Violater1]

I know I appreciate Doc's posts, he's making good points I hope people take to heart in this thread. And Violater thanks for the S&F I really want this to get the attention it needs as well. For once someone, in this case myself, has a story that is completely legit and shows the true corruption of the government. And I, the family, and you all need the answers.

Please share this thread with everyone, I could really use the help. And I know ATS can help, this site is good at one thing in particular - research! If we can find some dirt in these holes from this story, we may be able to dig deeper. And if somehow my letters to Washington get me some information well that will be even better. Let's hope they respond in a timely fashion with some good, solid information.

[edit on 4-2-2010 by highlyoriginal]

[edit on 4-2-2010 by highlyoriginal]

I don't mean any disrespect but why are you implying that this is related to anything other than what the official story is? Sure, he may not have seemed suicidal, but faced with the realization that he was going to spend a long time behind bars perhaps he took it upon himself to take the quicker way out. People in prison for child related offenses, whether virtual images or physical abuse, aren't taken upon too kindly in prison.

So did he actually have child pornography on his computer? Did he own a gun? Is the case still on-going? It seems like a pretty serious incident especially with the special task forces investigating it and I'd be careful posting about it on the Internet.

If you are suggesting that he was 'silenced' because of something he did while in the military or because of knowledge he had, which I'm assuming you are hence why you mention he was an ATS member (which hasn't been proven), why would feds kill him in his own home with a warrant? Why wouldn't they kidnap him while he's going to / coming home from work and take him out quietly?

[edit on 4/2/10 by Nventual]

Originally posted by Nventual
I don't mean any disrespect but why are you implying that this is related to anything other than what the official story is? Sure, he may not have seemed suicidal, but faced with the realization that he was going to spend a long time behind bars perhaps he took it upon himself to take the quicker way out. People in prison for child related offenses, whether virtual images or physical abuse, aren't taken upon too kindly in prison.

So did he actually have child pornography on his computer? Did he own a gun? Is the case still on-going? It seems like a pretty serious incident especially with the special task forces investigating it and I'd be careful posting about it on the Internet.

Well I don't know if you read the whole OP and the following 2 posts I made after it, but if you did I don't see how you could still think Darius's story told by the FED is true...

1. Explain the 6 bullet wounds, including the ones to the mouth (considering the FBI admits to shooting him, how did he commit suicide then?)
   
2. Explain why Darius worked out on a treadmill before supposidly 'commiting suicide' because like I said who the hell works out then kills themself?
   
3. Explain how no gun shots were heard before the Fed's came in with the warrent, nor any were heard before the family left, meaning that something went down AFTER the family was taken to the police station
   
4. Explain why the Fed's retracted their original cause of death? They were there, wouldn't they know what happened? *cough* cover up *cough*
   
5. And... yeah I could keep going but you get the point.
   

Originally posted by Nventual
If you are suggesting that he was 'silenced' because of something he did while in the military or because of knowledge he had, which I'm assuming you are hence why you mention he was an ATS member (which hasn't been proven), why would feds kill him in his own home with a warrant? Why wouldn't they kidnap him while he's going to / coming home from work and take him out quietly?
[edit on 4/2/10 by Nventual]

I don't know if he was silenced because of something he did in the military, I have no idea why he was executed/assassinated.

And it's not been proven he was an ATS member? I said he was, I know he was, you don't have to believe me but I am a respected member on ATS I have nothing to gain by lying about this. I am only trying to gain information using ATS since I knew he was on this site before he died, and he talked about aliens for sure, and I'll find out more topics later today most likely.

Why would they kill him in his own home? Because they can, they do, and they had a plan the whole time to execute their assassination. Premeditated execution. All the Fed's who were there that night, involved in the case who knew the truth etc. should all be put to death for this horrible murder of an innocent man.

If you noticed I showed, and bolded, the part about him being falsely convicted of the military crimes... I even added the .pdf of his appeals that kept getting shut down. They obviously had a problem with him back in 1997, something must have gotten worse, changed, or something new totally occurred and the need to silence him for good was felt to be needed by the government. Plain and simple.

And why would they nab him secretly? That would cause much suspicion because there would be no answers, unless they framed someone which would be a whole nother ordeal for them to deal with [them=the FED].

reply to post by highlyoriginal


Don't worry, what goes around comes around. This circus is about to come to an end.
2nd line

here is a scenario he was trying to get something out and when he saw the feds he knew something was up grabbed his gun and then got in an arguemet when they tried to arrest him for the stuff. when they pulled there guns he shot himself right before they did. hope u can find out

Originally posted by gaurdian2012
hey does anyone think ats is a tool for tptb i mean whats that old saying keep your freinds close and your enemy's closer

Everyone is 'anonamous' to each other... however if you say something crutial... 'they' can 'hack' ATS and find you. If they kill you... nobody will ever know.

This is how they 'extract' certain people, in my opinion.

Highlyoriginal,

I offer my condolences for your loss of a friend.

I read your posts and yes it sounds as if something else could be behind his death. I can say that I have never seen in an incident where a subject shoots himself in the head then fire is returned by officers. That sounds mighty uh let's say, out of normal protocol. However if he shot himself in the mouth and didn't die right away (which is not unusual at all) then for whatever reason, began waving the weapon around either on purpose of as a result of the gunshot, and the officers felt threatened then perhaps thats why they returned fire. Again people MUST understand that just because someone shoots themselves in the mouth that will not always kill them instantly like in the movies. The key here in this case, would be to determine if when he shot himself, did he collaspe to the floor dead or was he still concious?

If he was unconcious then thats a problem for sure. And if he was still interacting with officers after he shot himself but had dropped his gun and after shooting himself posed no further threat to the officers then that too is a problem.

However, if he shot himself then began flailing around with the gun in his hand due to the injury sustained by his own gun then unfortunately the officers would more than likely be cleared of any wrong doing. I believe this is obvious as to why they would be.

If he was just someone who was caught up in the "child porn" picture swapping/selling activities then thats one thing BUT, to have been involved in some weapons crime in the military then be shot for what amounts to having a warrant served on him, that too is troubling for me to comprehend.

For your own sake and peice of mind don't jump automatically to the conspiracy conclusion regarding this even though its troubling for you. It will only add an un-needed cloudiness to an already sorryful situation. Look at the facts you can obtain first and if there are any "conspiracy aspects" then they will become apparent after using your better judgement & common sense.

clarification

[edit on 4-2-2010 by mikelee]

So the gist is the guy had a history of being a massive f-up, probably tried to kill himself, or threatened to, cops called, and he suicided by police?

Seems plausible. FBI taking his computer for kiddie porn search? Eh, maybe. Coffee (the Microsoft joint Police/Fed software for searching your system) doesn't look for that stuff.

Either way, the guy seems like a screw up, and somehow I get the feeling he wanted to die. maybe the authorities showed up, explained whats up with the kiddie porn, and he pulled a gun to shoot himself? Who knows. One less misfit.

reply to post by gaurdian2012

hey does anyone think ats is a tool for tptb i mean whats that old saying keep your freinds close and your enemy's closer

We hope they are paying attention.
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Mankind will evolve whether he wants to or not.

Cut the strings.
They're in knots.
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[edit on 4-2-2010 by Perseus Apex]

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
"Searching for child pornography" is a common excuse the FBI uses for raiding homes and confiscating computers, even though the defendants strongly deny the charge. Making the child pornography charge is so horrifying to most people, they automatically distance themselves from the defendant — even family members will distance themselves.

[edit on 2/4/2010 by Doc Velocity]

Yep, I had the cops busting down my door and confiscating my computer for "child porn".

Unsurprisingly, they found nothing (because there was nothing to find, in case you were wondering), but I never did get my hard drive back.

I've known this to happen to a couple of other people, where they seize their computers under trumped up child porn investigations, but never get charged, because there never was any in the first place, but never get their hard drives back.

They are obviously finding something on the drives they don't want spreading.

BTW, all the people I have heard this hapening to happen to be political activists and/or conspiracy theorists.

All you should have to do to find this individual's profile here on ATS is to use unique Keywords, in the ATS search module, of which apply exclusively as possible TO him/his life as you know it.

Was he a Cardinal fan, did he have nickname, where is he from?, where did he live, sky diver, home remodeling enthusiast, veteran of 'which' unit?
Which tank was he in (point?) in the tank battalion at the border of Iraq/Afghanistan? Which one?

Inputing these keywords in the ATS search module should do the trick. It should lead you to the Man.

I was in this AO in 1991 for 11 months.
We are of similar age and I understood his mission.....though, unfortunately, much later in life.

I 'could' know this person though it's doubtful.
There were many soldiers in this area of operations performing various tasks for various 'reasons'.....

Glad to help.

Good Luck?
Salute.....with a handshake.



[edit on 4-2-2010 by Perseus Apex]

reply to post by highlyoriginal


The photo in your avatar is exactly as I envision my daughter to appear at the age in the photo. The photo magnetically draws my attention. It appears the facial portion of the photo has been superceded over the body within the avatar frame.

My daughter is only 11 months old though cute as a button and quick as a bit. Uncanny resemblance from what I can See. Any ideas?

I'll keep my assumptions to myself for now.....for they are from out of this world.....and I'm still searching.....watching.....



[edit on 4-2-2010 by Perseus Apex]

IMHO, the reason for his murder probably has to do with the gun smuggling carried out by the govt after the first Iraq war. If you look into the Waco massacre there is a tie there into possible distribution of unregistered guns to street gangs as some planned federal program for gun confiscation of the public by the street gangs. He probably knew too much.


[edit on 4-2-2010 by m khan]

reply to post by highlyoriginal


This stinks of a massive cover-up that makes no sense at all. I want to help but I have no clue on how to find his ATS account and I'm not really in a position to take physical action. If it were me I would be talking to his family and doing a little personal investigation.

Child pornography is a highly used ploy that the FBI and other agencies use to get access to people who legally can not be gotten too. It is very easy to fake the pornographic charges and make it appear it was him who was distributing it.

Also, the weapons charges do not add up. I don't know who this man is, but he either was running a larger operation for our government or was just laundering the weapons for some small profit. More often than not, the government will hire specific people to do contracts and and sell weapons to other people under the radar. Its a common way to make handsome sums of money. At the end of the day, they get a cut and the world is happy.

If thats the case then he might have overstayed his "asset time" and became a liability for the US Gov't. Seeing how he was involved with ET research it is possible that he could have been on to something and was using his prior contracts with the the Gov't for leverage.

Highlyoriginal U2U inbound. S&F as well.

Originally posted by Meesterjojo
So the gist is the guy had a history of being a massive f-up, probably tried to kill himself, or threatened to, cops called, and he suicided by police?

Seems plausible. FBI taking his computer for kiddie porn search? Eh, maybe. Coffee (the Microsoft joint Police/Fed software for searching your system) doesn't look for that stuff.

Either way, the guy seems like a screw up, and somehow I get the feeling he wanted to die. maybe the authorities showed up, explained whats up with the kiddie porn, and he pulled a gun to shoot himself? Who knows. One less misfit.

Did I not say to NOT POST anything bad about this man because he was a GOOD PERSON? And if you were thinking of saying bull$hit like this then stay the hell away from the thread LIKE I ASKED.

I understand child pornography is really messed up, I am VERY against that sort of thing, but this man was not that person, the computer he used was a FAMILY computer meaning the kids, the wife, family, friends, whoever - ALL had access. And he sounds like a screw up? He served 12 years in the military, what the f*ck have you done with you're life? He had a beautiful family, took care of them and his friends and they all loved him very much.

Please leave this thread, never come back, and never post in any of my threads, ever again.

Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to post by highlyoriginal

 

The photo in your avatar is exactly as I envision my daughter to appear at the age in the photo. The photo magnetically draws my attention. It appears the facial portion of the photo has been superceded over the body within the avatar frame.

The photo is photoshopped a bit, but it an original picture. All I did was mess around with the background a bit, make her shine a bit more (I love her hair in the avatar ) and that's it. But if your daughter ends up looking like her, then you better watch out for boys when shes growing up because Yvonne Strahovski is gorgeous!

Originally posted by m khan
IMHO, the reason for his murder probably has to do with the gun smuggling carried out by the govt after the first Iraq war. If you look into the Waco massacre there is a tie there into possible distribution of unregistered guns to street gangs as some planned federal program for gun confiscation of the public by the street gangs. He probably knew too much.


[edit on 4-2-2010 by m khan]

You really think they waited from '97 to '08 to come after him? Not to mention the military conviction was bogus as well, he never stole anything, his lawyer was a free one given too him, and like I stated earlier, check out the .pdf of his appeals. They kept shutting him down and throwing the cases around like trash - they screwed him badly.