All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

I agree with what the OP is saying I just think you went about it in the wrong way.

My theory on aliens and UFO's is that they are time travelers from our future coming back to study us and experience our way of life. Kinda like a plane trip to another country.



well not really but I haven't seen any hard factual evidence of any of aliens, but i do believe UFO's exist as they could be anything from government tech to someone uneducated about what they have seen and interpreting it as alien/ufo.



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Originally posted by excobar75
I agree with what the OP is saying I just think you went about it in the wrong way.

My theory on aliens and UFO's is that they are time travelers from our future coming back to study us and experience our way of life. Kinda like a plane trip to another country.

well not really but I haven't seen any hard factual evidence of any of aliens, but i do believe UFO's exist as they could be anything from government tech to someone uneducated about what they have seen and interpreting it as alien/ufo.

Who are you talking about who is the OP
They maybe time travelers from the the ancient ancient past not the future unless they are in that too. they very well could be past and present good point..... I can go alnog with that.



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some of these people are b/s the rest well you decide!

Time travel makes more sence to me...

I mean come on 300 years from now someone invents a time travel machine surely they are going to sell tickets for people to go back and see era's of life they choose too.

kinda like a time travel safari...


and future humans taking photo's of us abducting us to see a real life specimen of a human from the era 1900's up close to really study us

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reply to post by metalholic

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So out of all these lets take a vote which ones are the most likely to be beleiveable????

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you really couldnt watch them because you wanted to? you needed me to post a real reason to watch them? i mean come on...the whole thread is about ufo's being man made and believers and abductee's being delusional!

so with that said i posted them videos to give a better view on whats goin on if anyone has the capacity to take anything out of them..there not time travelers thats for sure! and they deff aint from earth!

but think what you want you have your own brain to form your own opinions i'm not gonna tell anyone how to think...jus merely present things to be looked at and discussed!

A thread based on the premise "I don't believe in UFOs, and you are all delusional people." 29 pages.

Muhnochwa-India 2002. UFO panic? - A cool incident that many had not even heard of. Less than one page.
West Hills Bright Light had Witnesses - 0 replies
UFO over Gosford, Australia 1994 a "Must See" short 7 min Documentary - less than one page.
OFFICIAL!!! 2010 UFO Sightings and Reports Thread - one response.

And so on...

If I were a disinformation specialist, this would be exactly the sort of result I would hope to get. Threads about the actual subject matter this board was created for die quickly, and disappear, and threads like this (or ridiculous "sightings" like umbrellas on porches), get over 30 pages.

If disclosure is dependent on the public's perception of UFOs, I don't think they need to worry about disclosure any time soon.

Originally posted by left4bed
reply to post by Signals

 

Prove you wrong? What is the point, you have your fixed view and have no desire to engage in generating any meaningful conversation.

I agree with what you say here and in the other post about the two morons in the god debate on the "ALIENS AND UFO'S FORUM"!!

But anyways, don't delete your membership friend, for you are by far not left solo in your views!

And not to feed the way out of control god topic but heres my not so humble opinion on the matter in which i call " E.T. meets god with us monkeys in tha middle "

My thaughts are, and have been for some time now, that the ET's in very ancient times even hundreds of millions and possibly billions of years ago were present and had a large part in the creation of planet earth, and all of the flora and fauna, sea life and land animals, including mammals and dinosaurs, insects, birds, reptiles....and of course the human species!

What i believe from the evidence i've gathered, seen, touched, smelled, talked to for many years now is that logically it points to this:

The ET's who have been here on this planet pretty much from the begining are, and were then, a much more highly evolved human being from another star system, galaxy, or perhaps even another universe or dimension!

i think they came here either by chance, default , or possibly divine directive to overlook and possibly assist in the natural evolution of this planet, including and most likely and primarily guiding the very primitive hairy apelike humanoids in there developement, and periodically throughout the ages influencing the genes of the apemen as to develope true intellect and consciousness and inevidably create a young semi civilized version of themselves and the most likely millions if not billions of other human civilizations of every color, shape, and size imaginable throughout our vast milkyway galaxy, let alone the universe. And i also think that early earth man was taught how to understand nature and the universe as seen in the evidence of ancient astrology amongst many other teachings from the ancient visitors including literature, mathmatics, physics, and philosophy to get our civilization jumpstarted.

I think that this is the way it is and always was done! They are the caretakers of this garden and one day (hopefully) we as a human species will be spiritually enlightened and mature enough to be tasked with the great divine priveledge to take to the stars and tend to our own garden!

Doesn't it just seem lodgical that this is the way that the ultimate intelligence, creator of all things in the universe "GOD" would let his children tend to thier own, i mean i doubt god him/her or itself would come down, up or in from wherever to personally see it through when the divine creator has angels or lightbeings (the highest order of ET's or most highly evolved intelligence under God or the divine creator) along with the assistance of lower level 3D ET's (nephilim, ahnunaki, nordics, etc...) to do the work for him/her, it!

I do believe in god but absolutily do not follow any religions, cults or organized schools of thaught, though i was raised roman catholic but can't stand it nor any of the other religions full of zombies or minions that do not question and hate and cast predjudice upon anyone who does, causing division amongs the people of this planet, and we all know what division in culture and belief systems leads to! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!

The day i left religion behind and took a spiritual aproach to life is when i felt awake and truely free for the first time in my life! Only then could you consider yourself an individual, and as for my beliefs in the ET, us, and God connection well they are my individual beliefs for know and i am open to any points of view (from a non religious standpoint) to be discussed, devil

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Thanks for posting those...

The "UFO lands on playground" is compelling...



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reply to post by IamNow


Here is one explanation.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki-y6YEsMRs[/yvid]




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Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by NorthStargal52

 

you really couldnt watch them because you wanted to? you needed me to post a real reason to watch them? i mean come on...the whole thread is about ufo's being man made and believers and abductee's being delusional!

so with that said i posted them videos to give a better view on whats goin on if anyone has the capacity to take anything out of them..there not time travelers thats for sure! and they deff aint from earth!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Nothing I havn't seen before in fact you wasted your time on putting some that in fact have the same stuff on as one of the others.... I could whip up the same not interested or in the God thing..
Not trying to convince anyone just stating facts of ancient findings.
I agree that a lot of these videos are crap said that once now Im saying it again.
then you paste some more up.
figure it out for yourself no one has to do it for you... and if it's not something you beleive in thats fine with me but preach a book not interested....


but think what you want you have your own brain to form your own opinions i'm not gonna tell anyone how to think...jus merely present things to be looked at and discussed!

Originally posted by fleabit
A thread based on the premise "I don't believe in UFOs, and you are all delusional people." 29 pages.

Muhnochwa-India 2002. UFO panic? - A cool incident that many had not even heard of. Less than one page.
West Hills Bright Light had Witnesses - 0 replies
UFO over Gosford, Australia 1994 a "Must See" short 7 min Documentary - less than one page.
OFFICIAL!!! 2010 UFO Sightings and Reports Thread - one response.

And so on...

If I were a disinformation specialist, this would be exactly the sort of result I would hope to get. Threads about the actual subject matter this board was created for die quickly, and disappear, and threads like this (or ridiculous "sightings" like umbrellas on porches), get over 30 pages.

If disclosure is dependent on the public's perception of UFOs, I don't think they need to worry about disclosure any time soon.

fleabit, I will thank you Once Again for keeping a thread you hate so much alive....

Me, disinfo dude? mmmmkay. A common disinfo tactic is to attack the OP personally when all else fails. And complain about other threads not getting attention, etc. Care to guess how many of this disinfo agent's threads crashed and burned? Nearly all of them, chap.

Please feel free to keep posting here though ~Instead of adding anything worthwhile to the topic at hand.~

Here is my theory.
It's All Real, and here's why...

Originally posted by left4bed
How have we got onto a dreary religious debate?

Yes, yes your book is all real, same as the norse gods one, hindu one and the buddhists. I thought this was the Aliens and UFO section.

I was in two minds about joining ATS due to all the creationist VS Atheist rubbish and the even more retarded anti obama Vs Pro obama, that infiltrates every conversation and that no one actually wants to listen to any answers that may make them change their mind on the matter.

It is no longer about conversation, it is simply about shouting as loud as you can and then patting the people on the back who agree with you, and going boo hiss at those who don't regardless of any merit or truth.

I have just joined and I am now going to delete my membership. Its futile.

If i need to get a dose of ATS i will get a fox news best bits and a CNN best bits along with a Hitchens vid and a vid by a manic preacher of some dubious religon of other. most likely consisting of someone talking about a banana.

Religion has everything to do with UFOS, Because for one it is going to be the major tactict to erase of former evidence or proof of any gods or religions in all existance, But this is what the government are staging to for the NWO.

Dont you get it, Satan is controlling the nation without them knowing so he can deny people any fact of a God, so that UFOS make more sense.


I really think that the coming years, Actually i know so, We are going to see some form of a War with God and satan, And i know its going to be a celestial Battle.

Earth is just a playgroud, A stepping stone, To what the universe really holds.

Only god knows

Religon is a figment of human imagination,the biggest con ever played,deadly serious in nature.

Any battles that are fought will be fought between men and women,not gods,anyone who dies will really die.

UFOs are only technology,so that point is mute,next point is WHO IS OPERATING THEM?We know they are VERY MUCH LIKE US OR ARE US BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIANCE ON TECHNOLOGY AND THEIR ABILITY TO TRANSCEND THE BOUNDARIES OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT.

I was taken aboard an interstellar craft manned by military humans wearing blue one piece uniforms ,they were definately human ,I talked to some in depth,the craft had YELLOW SRIPES PAINTED AROUND THE EXIT DOOR JUST LIKE AREAS WE PAINT YELLOW.

Are there other craft,piloted by other races that are really alien?

I doubt it.I believe all life in the universe is related and sentience can be modified into any life form with some minimum requirements we arent aware of yet.Just as we were modifed.This is the only way to really travel the universe and spread effectively,taking your technology with you and having it replicated in a relatively short time by THE SENTIENT CREATURE YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO USE.

Any planet with appropriate resources and supporting ANY TYPE OF LIFEFORM THAT MEETS THE "UNKNOWN MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO HOLD SELFAWARENESS" and we are in business.

Could there be other selfaware life forms??you bet.Are they alien?no way.

We are all related with the only difference being our sentience,so another self aware lifeform shouldnt come as a surprise.

The ufo issue has been over for several years now,I only had to be on ATS for about three months to begin to really get it,after six months it is undeniable that these pieces of technology EXIST,so lets not be HELD BACK BY THE DISCUSSION ANYMORE .


Mainstream information is simply accepting what they see ,us diehards are supposed to be ahead of the curve,what is happening ?

You would need to be delusional to believe in any sysem that propogated the existance of a DIVINE creator that could grant DIVINE FORGIVENESS,the idea itself is absurd.An all seeing god that predetermines every action in the universe simultaneously and with complete willfull control????

So anyone reading this that is religous can stop fooling themselves about the reasons they are on this site,one of my relatives started a new religon that has millions of members today,I am perceptive by nature,you dont believe any more,so tell yourself to reinforce your religous beliefs and do not allow yourself to lose your faith whatever it may be,religon is about to be transformed forever ,ALL WORLD RELIGONS ARE ABOUT TO JOIN TOGETHER UNDER ONE WORD.

But you will soon be forced by the reality you live in to see religon for what it really is and more importantly what it USED TO BE .

Because humanity will not allow anyone to kill in the name of their god anymore,NO ONE,NO RELIGON,NOT CHRISTIAN,NOT MUSLIM.

These religons will be abolished because they will be assimilated by a global humanitarian belief system supported by the only power big enough to unmask the deception of current religons,AND THAT IS THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES.

Religons will not even get the chance to join together in a final act of self preservation,in a deceptive act of manipulated global conflict,the traditional relogous fallback when science has almost ROUTED THE IMAGINARY BEAST.

Because people need religon we NEED ALL OF THE RELIGONS THAT EXIST TODAY BECAUSE WE ARE A DIVERES SPECIES WE JUST WILL NOT TOLERATE ILLUSION AND MURDER AND DECEPTION ANYMORE.

Humanitatian needs are becoming a global concern more and more every second.

Please feel free to keep posting here though ~Instead of adding anything worthwhile to the topic at hand.~

The thread is staying alive regardless of my posts. If I can provide some impetus to kill it, all the better.

The topic at hand? What topic? That you don't believe in UFOs? That is not even remotely worthy of this board. Who gives a flying rats arse that you don't believe in UFOs, and think anyone that does is a "delusional phoney?"

I did not call you a disinfo anything, please try to read a bit more carefully.

Originally posted by heineken
just to ease out the bad temper such claims like ALIENS DO NOT EXISTS does..

please enjoy...epic movie + epic song!!!

Pink Floyd 2001: A Floyd Odyssey Full Ending Scene

Epic Band Epic Movie! He he, I saw 2001 when it first came out Tripping with a cople of mates!

Hears a story that's obviously 1 of "our's"
BLACK PROJECT...or ALIEN CRAFT w/ HUMANOIDS?

Location/Date: San Francisco, California - January 30 2000 - 11:15 PM

The witness was hauling up a line of crab traps off Farlon Island with his dog onboard his 25-foot boat. While leaning over the side, the dog began barking furiously. The witness looked up and saw a huge triangular shaped object hovering above him, totally silent. Then a beam of white light hit the witness and he fell backwards onto the sole of the cabin. He grabbed a Rugger 10-22 rifle loaded with a 100 round magazine and started firing at the bottom part of the object. The witness was apparently able to shoot out the light. While grabbing a second clip, he saw a hatch open up on the bottom side of the object and two persons leaned down and yelled "Stop shooting at us you idiot." He also heard a hissing sound resembling air escaping from a flat tire. The object then moved off to the south.

A helicopter then appeared and hovered over the boat. The chopper was flat black in color and was silent with no markings on it. As the chopper hovered a flash of light was directed towards the boat. He last saw the triangle gaining altitude and disappear towards the south. The helicopter was last seen heading towards the Golden Gate Bridge.

Source: NUFORC

reply to post by Signals


Wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed the earth was flat, and up until about 60 years ago scientists thought the atom was the smallest thing until they split it open and this whole mess of crap came out, so your telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there is a teeny tiny possibility that you could be wrong about there being other life forms out there more advanced then us? Sounds to me like you know everything. Only a fool knows everything. A wise man knows how little he knows.

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Its got to be a windup! Signals this is one of the biggest forum's on the subject of ET's an UFOs, and with all the evidence on the Net it seem's there's some kinda block there Signals!



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