What You Didn't Know About The War - Graphic, You Have Been Warned!

The videos shown were not even half of whats going on. There were more on youtube that I seen that were not included but when I went to watch them again, they had been removed from Youtube.

Now seeing the rest of what I have not seen, this marks the end. I have, no longer, any respect for humanity. What-so-ever. None. Zilch. Nien. Nada. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Acts such as this have been around since the beginning of mankind. From Vietnam to Iraq. Yet, the intentional wrong-doings are being ignored and not told to the people. How many more times are we going to be left in the dark or lied to? From the media making war seem a fight for freedom to the denial from our government of what really crash landed at Roswell. We are ALL being lied to and we are ALL not being told of things on what we have the RIGHT to know!

They told us that the US was the most powerful military in the world with a 24/7 Eye in the Sky. Stealth Planes, Bombs, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Invasion of Iraq was in 2003 right? I estimate seven years between today and that year. Again, correct me if I'm wrong in that statement. Seven years, seven years of fighting a terrorist organization armed with AK-47's, WW2 aged HMG's and LMG's, Inexpensive explosives. Their protection? Fine, soft robes with a Khafiya or Shomagh. All that against the greatest military in the world, and we are still fighting this war wherever the enemy goes, or is that so? We went to war with a country in search of what we were told, WMD's. Perhaps we were searching in the wrong place? What other place is left since all of Iraq has been turned upside down and not even a hint of WMD's. Take a 180 on this and look at the US. Brilliant people being paid to find new and different ways on how to obliterate a city or just strip one of life without structural damage. Ironic isn't it? From my perspective, we should be at war with ourselves if thats part of the reason we went over there.

Out of what I have seen. There's two things. Blood and Oil. It's just like the Military and Exon-Halliburton combine. Here's the "Million dollar question": Why are we looking to Iraq for oil when we are sitting on just as much under our feet and offshore? There is no answer or excuse that can justify what is happening in Iraq to this very day. From what I see, they let criminals serve their time in the military instead of jail. Military recruits get their heads filled with fighting for our freedom when they are put on patroll to protect an oilfield with their lives. Theres more to why we are in Iraq than what we, "The Public" are told.

Spent Uranium in shells? How sick can you be. Whats the excuse for getting shot with one of those? Oh, you'll live through it? By the way, with a bit of uranium in your blood you wont be able to start a family. By the way, your baby will turn out to be a three headed monster. Maybe the enemy should start filling the tips of their ammunition with Botulinum or Anthrax. Sounds fair to me doesn't it?

I wonder how many more years before warmongers start reaching for the stars and provoking wars with advanced civilizations. Maybe then they can put us back in our place or just wipe us out. I'd prefer being wiped out.

Originally posted by dalek

Originally posted by Frontkjemper
Had to turn it off after hearing about them being labled terrorists by the white establishment because they opposed rape and pillagement. (At 8:10 in the video.)

I mean, seriously? "Blaming whitey" for everything is getting old. Last time I checked, the USA had a half black guy in office.

what is pillagement?
and who was "Blaming whitey"

Sometimes people use the term "the whites", because that's what western nations are to the middle-east and Africa. We are, the white men, because we are not represented as "Christians" in our foreign policy and the major obvious resemblance we all share (for the majority, in history and present) is simply being white.

It is the same as saying, "the Muslims", whenever people talk about the middle-east. Not only is it the same, but it is also insulting, because not everyone is "Muslim" in the middle-east nor are they all "radicals fundamentalists".

It's not racist, get over it.

Besides, she was speaking more on history than present day, like the whites conquering the Indians and other sovereign nations of the past. And that was very much whitey going on a conquering bender.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
reply to post by dalek

 

Did you notice Republicans supported the Iraq war and the war in Afghanistan when Bush was president? But when a Democrat comes into office, they're suddenly "anti war."

The right wing consists of insane hypocrites.

no surprise at all

reply to post by Seanbomber


I said bullets,but it doesn't change the fact, that spent uranium is being
used in weapons.Bullets,shells...they will cause serious,unspeakable,
irreversible,damage to their population.Don't forget, that any soldier
who handles these weapons, could also damage his future offspring as
well.
Or,is that the ultimate plan...irradiate their population,cause serious
birth defects,this could be viewed as a prelude to genocide.

I can't begin to describe how horrified I was at the video. But...not for the reasons the presenter expected. I'm nausiated by the pinko, socialist, tree-hugging, limp wrists that posted the shock footage. They bend it over and have their way with it. Sure Write some gripping, poignant, speeches to dub over the "compilation" and then pass it off as somekind of documentry.

Shame on You!!!!!

One of those dead babies, the one with gravel covering it with just it's poor
little face revealed, was a baby killed by muslim extremists in Chechnya!!
I remember the photo when it happened. The deformed babies...one of them had Primortial Dwarfism!!!!! That is a disease caused by two parents
both carrying the recessive gene. NOT BY WAR!!

Whom in their right mind likes war?? No one except psychopaths!!
But war is the only way that bad people are stopped from taking over.
Do you have any idea what your world would be like had people like me not gone to the trouble of fighting for your silly, naive', shamefully self-indulgent, overinflated ego butt. You would have been killed long ago by people much more frightening than people like me.

When i read these posts... I want to cry at the level of delusion I see. "How outragous!!" You say... this outrage based on plagerism and fabrications by the author to justify their own personal war against the "the man" Did daddy not love you little orator??? Get over it.

Remember.....people like you are a runaway train. People like me are the brakes on the runaway train! Just trying to keep us on the rails.

Originally posted by Seanbomber

Just to add on to the top. Stop it with the Peace crap. Yes, needless war is horrible. But to push world peace on the populace, would be the equivalent of a forced utopia. War will only die out after the last man dies. If you really want to push peace, you better be COMPLETELY against conflict. That means drama, argument, revenge. You had better like or tolerate everyone. If you don't do this and you advocate total peace, you're a hypocrite.

We will have total peace one day. There is an evolutionary leap some of mankind is experiencing right now. Just as when homo-erectus was sharing the planet with a very few homo-sapiens there is a small amount of numbers of people that have been evolved beyond any conflict. They are called homo-spiritus. Buddha, Jesus Christ and other ascended masters were some of the first of the homo-spiritus.

One day just as now most are still homo-sapiens, most will be homo-spiritus. Peace will then be upon us. Right now there are a few million homo-spiritus living and the numbers will grow exponentially over the next few hundred years.

Originally posted by HERACAT
Pure propiganda. This is no better than the crap we get from the other side.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not attacking the OP. I just think this video, while it has moving images, is biased.
I believe the issue of the so called "War on Terror" is more complex than this video adresses.
It does bring up some cases that should be looked into further.
Perhaps we can adress some of those here in other posts.

Peace andLight!

You sound like a mouthpiece for a politician trying to justify destruction and death for some "greater good". You would buy into anything they tell you without using your own brain to make a sound judgement, which, coincidentally probably isn't possible with the information they release to us.

reply to post by mamabeth


Dear Seanbomber,

Do you know anything about DU??

I, As a former M1A1 Tank commander doubt you do.

You see, I have handled that deadly ammuntion you speak of many times. As the primary component of the "Sabo" round the DU penetrator is used in every "service" Sabo round. I've fired many of them in combat, and while I never did lick them, i'm preety sure they aren't as bad as you think. You see... That same DU is used in the ballistic armor of the M1s' and every NATO tank as well. I sleept on it, lived on it, ate on it, bathed on it for Years. While I don't really like DU, I'm not willing to listen to ill informed people like you post things that you don't have any experience with. Please educate yourself before speaking.

Thank You,

RED2-actual out!

reply to post by SyphonX


Dear SyphonX,

She has a B.A. in Biology...right?

thats odd...... Wouldn't Biology be a SCIENCE degree??

Shouldn't it be a B.S.??

Please explain this to me.

Originally posted by calstorm
I have been against the war for the last few years, but now I am REALLY against it. I want to go over there and bring aid to those people our country is hurting.

PLEASE believe me they dont want your Christian ass on there land or your helpall they want is to see you choke on you own blood as they behead you




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reply to post by SyphonX


No my friend...she meant exactly what she said "white"

Don't twist it or edit it. Just leave it alone.
You are being lied to by a self loather. A white that hates whites because
she really hates herself. The pathology (psychological) of this speaker is twisted and turning, and would take decades to sort out. Don't profess to "know" what she means. Did you watch the superbowl at her house, did you even ever meet her???

Originally posted by daeoeste
reply to post by HERACAT

 

RIIIIIGGGHHTTT.... nothing to see here....I hope this video at least gets some people to read some Frederick Douglas...And maybe you should too.

This isn't propaganda and the other poster knows it. What should really worry many of us here in the US and the soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan is that they have been breathing the same depleted uranium that aresoled when the ammunition hit a target. Once a shell hits a building or vehicle or whatever, it burns when it burns the radioactivity is in the air and the people around (including the soldiers) are breathing it. So many of these men and women may be "ruined goods" in effect if they decide to have children with someone. Thats what they don't tell americans and soldiers about radiation. People think that it's some flash and a little fallout and eventually it just washes away and you may or may not have burns and thats it, far from the truth. They don't tell the full story on radiation because if done it would scare people to ban nuclear weapons and nuclear material being used as weapons. Can you imagine being a 22 or 25 year old person that got radiation poison. If they survive the tumors and/or burns, they find out that their DNA is screwed up and every child they have will come out in deformed in hideous ways.

You may instantly kill 30 or 100 thousand people when a nuke goes off, but you can poison millions for years if not forever. And having nuclear waste just lying about and/or burning from the use of weapons contaminate as you saw an area for millions of years. Literally those weapons are war crimes but they dont' say it in the west because it's being used against people of the east and/or dark people.

reply to post by smoking man


And why is it that they are beheading? The US thought they could go in, then out in a matter of a year or two. They thought wrong and only furthered the violence by recruiting gang bangers and filling innocent soldiers heads with fighting for freedom when all they are doing is doing patrolls around oilfields.

Originally posted by libsmasher
reply to post by SyphonX

 

No my friend...she meant exactly what she said "white"

Don't twist it or edit it. Just leave it alone.
You are being lied to by a self loather. A white that hates whites because
she really hates herself. The pathology (psychological) of this speaker is twisted and turning, and would take decades to sort out. Don't profess to "know" what she means. Did you watch the superbowl at her house, did you even ever meet her???

So? I had faith in humanity and it has been going downhill, just now reaching its stop at Saturday, January 3rd, 2010. I'm human, and I hate my own race because of the ignorance of most. I hate my race because the majority are warned but deny that we are becoming a virus to the universe but respect goes out to those who realize the threat, but we are too few to take physical action against those whom run the country.

[edit on 30-1-2010 by QuantumDeath]

reply to post by Tifozi


Dear SphinxMontreal,

Why am I not surprised that you identify with CANADA. The nation that lives on the back of the USA. Literally.

No need to thank me....It's my pleasure to keep you free to spout all the
mindless, "IT'S Not Fair!!!" speech you want.

Pardon me, I've got to go now. It's time to go fight off socialism in my country.

Originally posted by Pacal Votan
reply to post by Tifozi

 

"NONE of the people that are clapping to this video have ANY awareness about the "good" things that have come out from the Afghan war."

so enlighten me. what is the objective in afghanistan? what good has come from this "conflict" other than someone is allowed to shave? help me understand why the innocent need to die.

Dear Sir,

1. Girls can go to school.

2. schools have been built.

3. Roads have been built.

4. Airtravel has been re-established.

5. Free trade occurs daily

6. the Taliban torture and murder doesn't take place each and everyday.

7. Elections have taken place...remember the purple thumbs?

8. medicine and vaccines now flow into the tribal regions. Where they have done without for decades.
9. ancient ruins have not been dynamited in years.
This doesn't begin to describe everything....but just a few thoughts.

reply to post by libsmasher


hearts & minds eh?

ok, The British listed the same propaganda in Northern Ireland during the "Troubles"
The Americans listed the same propaganda in Vietnam!

Its the same old tune and the locals are spitting on it!, how come?

arrogance, ignorance.. you tell me!

reply to post by asmall89


Hey big guy,

Why don't you reserve your thoughts until you are old enough to buy a beer. Reading the philosophical writings of a person your age while you still live with your mom and dad, kind of irritates me.

Do something hard first ... then tell us about your wisdom.

reply to post by dalek


Are you on crack?? What the heck did your reply mean?
Honestly... what were you talking about?

reply to post by oconnection


First of all , thanks for posting this video. I have seen it before and I think it needs to be re-posted on many forums outside of ATS and inserted into the MSM by any means necessary. I have also seen the footage used in their individual cases over the past few years. Its amazing to me how willfully blind and deaf the American public WANT to be concerning the whole Middle-East occupation. The Doctor is right: we ARE fighting for the rights of ONLY the corporate interests. When the power of currency is the new GOD, then we have all been deceived by a most blasphemous form of idolatry.

Read the book "Where to Invade Next" prefaced by General Wesley Clark himself. Yes TPTB want to control oil and it's revenues indefinitely.

Military escalation of the Middle East, "justified" using the guise of self-preservation, through the sales of arms to every side, actually CREATE the instability and greatly increase the chance of something catastrophically going wrong. Its a purely Orwellian concept, merely a game. And now it is a nuclear game.

The average international citizen does not distinguish between the American citizen and the American Government. The average American knows we are being misrepresented by our own ruling elite, but doesn't really understand the influences placed upon our own ruling elite by yet other elite factions (Military Industrial Complex) who even still don't see or realize that they themselves might be under the influence of another (foreign?) influence. Got all that? Its very complicated - by design.

IF the following observations are made:
The most powerful military in the world used to perpetuate a state of constant war;
Perpetual war expansion into foreign sovereign lands to control natural resources;
The ruling elite of said nation unable to stop expansion of perpetual war;
The citizens of said nation are unable to change the ruling elite (think latest SCOTUS decision).

Then the logical response to remedy the situation is:
Eliminate said nation, it's military, and its ruling elite. Citizens of said nation are expendable to prevent any chance of recurrence.

TPTB are maneuvering the U.S.A. from asset to liability. This is by design. The international perception of the USA has been destroyed. Also by design. The economic war=profit/boom model is inherently flawed at it's very core. It is a lie.

Although my whole post is merely an opinion piece, isn't THE WRITING ON THE WALL? The target is on our own backs!

Why must the innocent pay for the crimes of the guilty? Fortunately for us, the argument for this elaborate set-up has such a huge hole in it that a blind man could barrel a tractor-trailer through it with room to spare!


But I won't rant on without at least recommending another solution to the global situation we are all in. The problem are these guys: The Powers That Be. I am no anarchist. Forgive them, they are merely human. Although they may have been convinced that they are more than that. Also, the concept of the corporation must be rethought and the present status/rights of this entity be outlawed in its present form. Owners, shareholders, officers and all top level executives must be held responsible for the damages these corporations commit. Period.

We must enact a change of leadership at the very top. Soon, our very existence might hinge on our ability or inability to this very thing. I do NOT advocate bloody revolution nor assassination. I am of the school of PERSONAL, PUBLIC and PRIVATE ACCOUNTABILITY. It is in us all. Step up to the plate and be personally accountable for everything you do.

Nuff said

I posted the definition of propaganda because the video fits that definition. Anyone who has a problem with that should click this link and educate the dictionary folks on why they need to change that definition.

As for the material instead of the method of delivery, it's shocking if the claims of an earlier poster were true; if footage/pictures were indeed used that have origins/causes outside of the War on Terror. Something that needs to be looked into and if proven true, the video makers should be notified/confronted.

Nevertheless, not all people against the war are hypocrite morality knights on high horses.
It's ludicrous to think that there are either sympathizers or opponents to a video/message like this, with nothing in between. I personally know plenty of people in the military who would never do the things described in the video, and I'm 100% certain that the military personnel deployed abroad accomplish huge achievements for human freedom. And yet I'm also certain that huge profits are generated by the wars and those at the receiving ends of those profits aren't interested in a timely resolution, at best. At worst, they create 'attacks' to generate or perpetuate wars, which is something the people need to grow awareness of as it is extremely under reported.

Cost of War = Profit of War.

So, not all of the people who align with the video's message are "treehugging" commies (or is it them darn socialists these days?) Most likely, not even close.
And along the same vein, not every soldier is committing the acts spoken of in the video. Most likely, not even close.

If there are lies embedded in the video, then by all means let's hear about them.
But please, without the "I fought for your lazy coward ass" guilt trip...


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