HAARP and the Haiti earthquake of Jan 12 2010

I started searching around on Puerto Rico and found this. This is quite interesting. Starting at 6:00 into this, a guy explains how he and his crew instantly caused an earthquake with "the same type of ELF waves as HAARP", but at much lower frequencies. This happened way back in '87 while they were searching for oil in Oregon. He says "the instant we energized it, there was between a 4-4.5 earthquake. Keep in mind that this was with much lower frequencies than HAARP is capable of. He does a nice little demonstration that shows how it can happen.

Were they 'screwing around' searching for more potential oil around Haiti with this technology and 'accidentally' caused the big quake???

Not sure if this had been posted yet, but here it is.

podblanc.com...

[edit on 24-1-2010 by shasta9600]

reply to post by nophun


Chill out.. you don't understand what HAARP is fully. I barely comprehend all of it and have been reading about it for quite some time. We need a scientist to prove it officially. I have discussed many times the possibility that HAARP can cause quakes... with many very intelligent people and have read and watched many peoples interviews and read many documents. It can do some very interesting things with the proper techniques. Some say that it is possible.. Buttttt... we are not going into it here.. It can turn into a 30 page discussion. You should do your own research.. decide for your self... There is tonnes of information out there... enough to form an opinion.

Now.. whats interesting here is the data.. the data that exists and the data that is missing.
The ionogram graphs indicates ionospheric activity DIRECTLY over haarp... which suggests that HAARP was on... pretty strong. It increased slowly until just about the peak and the earthquake happened... then it decreased till it completely is blank. That alone should be enough to raise an eyebrow

Then.. at the same time the other graphs start, the All Sky Imager Photos start to get deleted.. 17:06 4 hours before the quake
Then the photos come back at 2:34 - 4 hours after the quake..
Something is going on... just from that.
I specifically said there is no need to bicker over whether it is possible or not before.. there is enough here to demand some answers!








[edit on 24-1-2010 by danman23]

reply to post by shasta9600


That is some of the info I am referring to.. do some research on Bernard Eastlund.. his patent... shoot.. watch this video.. there is an interview with him and some guys from HAARP www.youtube.com...

reply to post by danman23


What do you understand that I don't ? I know WTH the ionogram your showing is, you never mentioned what you were showing when you posted this thread.

Who are you to start talking to me like that, take your god damn tin hat off and read what I said. You are obviously the one that does not understand what HAARP does. The ionogram you are claiming shows HARRP caused the earthquake in Haiti (don't lie this is your point) is what HARRP does. They are not making earthquakes across the world for no apparent reason.

All Sky Imager is missing alot of images and you know it!

"many very intelligent people and have read and watched many peoples interviews and read many documents."

Who ? Give me one name. You know I am going to laugh at you as soon as you give me some wackos name.

"Nicholas Jones", Al Bielek, Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, or Rosalie Bertell What nut are you going to quote ? I am not saying man made earthquake is not possibility I am saying there is nothing showing HAARP is doing it or even can do it.

Edit: as always no youtube videos. I like to get my information from people I am 100% sure they can read/write.



[edit on 24-1-2010 by nophun]

reply to post by nophun



Please reread this.. and chill out:

"Granted.. This actually does not prove anything really. HAARP is used a lot. Looks like they power it up about once a day recently. I do think that by using HAARP possibly with some other technology it may be possible to cause an earthquake. It's pretty advanced science.. and I do not want to get into whether or not HAARP is capable of cause such atrocities."


(btw.. that video is actually a real movie.. you should really watch it... Holes in Heaven. www.youtube.com...


Edit to add: I do not know that the imager is missing lots of photos.. i couldn't find any... didn't look too far.. but that shouldnt matter anyways. Why would the multi million dollar facility just kinda stop working for no reason. You said it your self that the fact the photos were removed is interesting.. again.. chill out.





[edit on 24-1-2010 by danman23]

The ionospheric activity shown by the ionograms shows the normal diurnal variation caused by sunlight. Between about 0400 UTC (1900 ACT) and 1700 UTC (0800 ATC) activity is pretty low. Then solar radiation begins affecting the ionosphere above Alaska and activity picks up. It's like clockwork.

The Haiti earthquake occurred at 1253 ACT, the middle of the day. That is why the ionogram shows high activity. That is why, 6 hours later, the activity decreased.

BTW you can get the full set of archived data for the individual layers (same data, different format) here:
137.229.36.30...

Here is a typical example:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7d3e05c4e93b.png[/atsimg]

The HF transmitter is not used often

How frequently is the HF transmitter used?

The HF Transmitter is used during research campaigns to support interactive study of the ionosphere. A typical research period may last one or two weeks and up to four such campaigns may occur in a given year.

[edit on 1/24/2010 by Phage]

reply to post by Phage


Thank You phage.. very informative. Ok.. sooo.. im going to do a lil more research.

What do you think about the Photos being removed?

i really think if HAARP was to do something like this it would be on a country they didnt like...not haiti

reply to post by danman23

Why do you think there were any images removed? Were they there before and now gone?

It is not at all uncommon for automatic data collecting devices to have technical problems resulting in a loss of data. Maybe the system was down for maintenance. Maybe it had something to do with weather. It's not my habit to automatically jump to the conclusion that something is fishy. Unlike some, I have no problem with coincidences.

reply to post by Phage


Good point..
Im going to change the beginning of thread a bit since you introduced that graph above... only a scientist with knowledge in the field can know 100% for sure... which still needs to be done.... do you know anyone knowledgeable in the ionoshere?

I never said any images are "being removed" I said "missing".
I said there could be lots of lots of different reason, HAARP removing them to cover there tracks was NOT what I meant.

And there are lot of missing images.

2010-01-14 : 17:06 Jumps 2010-01-15 : 02:36
2010-01-15 : 17:06 Jump 2010-01-16 : 02:36
Then to 2010-01-17 .
etc.


Ya not like there is a pattern here ..
note: I the lengths of jumps are not all the missing image I just used the fist "jump" I found. Just to show there is a lot "removed"

Just lookin a the graphs a little more.. whats interesting is that it looks like the plasma (the black line) at 2mhz is 100 km higher in the sky than normal at 22:00 7 min after the quake.. Phage do you see that?



Edit: Doesnt the Heater push the ionosphere up? COULD this be an indication that the heater MAY have been on?



[edit on 25-1-2010 by danman23]

reply to post by danman23


Not this theory again...

I've seen about my fair share of this nonsense... HAARP cannot cause Earthquakes... There isn't even a shred of evidence that HAARP can effect or control the weather but now this theory comes storming out of the gate... it frightens me that anyone lends credence to this...

People just can't seem to except the idea that earthquakes can happen without our control or the control of angry god. They happen naturally, they always have. There isn't some sinister group of scientists laughing maniacally about their new evil Earthquake deathray.

Uh... I think I'm gonna be sick

Originally posted by danman23
reply to post by shasta9600

 

That is some of the info I am referring to.. do some research on Bernard Eastlund.. his patent... shoot.. watch this video.. there is an interview with him and some guys from HAARP www.youtube.com...

Just got done with it. Very disturbing. The HAARP people all but admit that they don't even really know what they're doing at times. Everything on earth, including us, is connected to electromagnetic waves and these idiots are screwing up the flow. They don't seem to care, because this is what they're told to do

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


Technically it is possible.. anything is possible.. The question is.. do "they" posses the equipment that allows for manipulation of the earths natural tendencies.. I think yes. But the real question is.. "do they use it?" I would hope no.. but in my opinion it is better to question them instead of just thinkin... "nooo waayyyy"

reply to post by danman23


Is it possible that "they" have some sort of Earthquake machine? Yes, it is in the realm of EXTREME possibility...

Is is possible that HAARP is causing it?

No because HAARP is not capable of effecting the Earth's crust, in fact HAARP doesn't have any proven disastrous side-effects and none of the allegations against it have ever shown to have any truth to them.

Saying the TPTB seek to control the Earth using technology and might have that technology already is one thing, had this thread said that I don't think I would have commented. This is non-specific and therefore its okay to make the claim without any shred of proof.

Saying that the Haiti earthquake specifically was caused by HAARP on the other hand is baseless speculation. This is very specific, but there is no proof for it, in fact there is plenty of proof the Haiti quake was natural based on:

1) Historical records on every single quake before the Haiti quake show them to be a naturally occurring disaster.

2) Haiti is near a known fault-line

3) There is no evidence to suggest any foul play on the part of any world power, government, group or individual

4) There is no evidence that artificial quakes can be generated by any known technology and no evidence that an unknown technology is at work...




[edit on 25-1-2010 by Titen-Sxull]

reply to post by danman23

You are looking at the virtual height curve. The true height curve does not show much variation.

All transmitted frequencies above this critical frequency will penetrate the layer without being reflected. Their group velocity will however, will be slowed by any ionisation, and this will add to the time-of-flight. If such a wave encounters another layer, whose plasma frequency is higher than the frequency of the wave, it will be reflected, and the return signal will be further delayed as it travels back through the underlying ionisation. The apparent, or virtual height indicated by this time delay will therefore be greater than the true height. The difference between true-height and virtual height is governed by the amount of ionisation that the wave has passed through. Recreating the true-height profile of electron concentration from ionogram data is an important use of ionosonde data. Such a procedure is known as true height analysis.

74.125.155.132...:uibr8fEs3z0J:www.g0lfp.com/ionograms/index.php+ionogram+virtual+height&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a< br />

(I guess you'll have to copy and paste the link)

The virtual height curve is subject to false returns. The true height curve corrects for that.

I don't believe the HF transmitter is capable of lifting the ionosphere. It affects a specific altitude.


[edit on 1/25/2010 by Phage]

The thing about HAARP is that it can not be disproven that it does create storms of all kinds, inlcuding earthquakes.

Even though there was an earthquake in China not to long ago with an odd coloration in the sky, which might be eviddence of HAARP at its works, its on youtube.

And proof HAARP really does anything, well its a government piece of equipment, like most it creates only a few things,

1) Profit

or

2) Death

Or both, I would think the best way to kill human beings (like the NWO like to do), is to kill them with natural disasters, which can not be stuck to anyone politically.

People that try to stick it to a corporation like the U.S. Government, are looked at as wack jobs, because "they didn't do it" a Natural Disaster Occured.

There is much more to Haiti then just reducing world population, there is also, money to be made, children to be sold, and contry to be invaded.

IMHO HAARP is Tech built by the Elite and the Elite only have a few things on their agenda.

If HAARP is not meant to cause Natural Disasters, then what is it used for?

reply to post by Quickfix

The thing about the International Space Station is you can't prove it isn't party central for the Galactic Federation.

The thing about leprechauns is that you can't prove they don't exist.

HAARP is research facility devoted to the study of the ionosphere. Why is that so hard to understand?


[edit on 1/25/2010 by Phage]

reply to post by Phage


So, the Ionosphere can not be manipulated in anyway?

I would think HAARP could.

oh and the non-sense about the Galactic federation and leprechauns is quiet a big leap for you Phage, I didn't know you believed in that.

good for you.


[edit on 25-1-2010 by Quickfix]