Need to take another look at UFOs in PA!

I have yet to see a commercial aircraft which has more than one strobe.

Originally posted by expat2368
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He is wrong, the objects in the video are not flashing per FAA specs.

Where is your evidence other than the extraordinary claim that you know everything about FAA specs because you supposedly sell commercial airplanes (an extraordinary claim in itself)?

Originally posted by expat2368
He is wrong, the objects in the video are not flashing per FAA specs.

So you tell all of us exactly how the UFO lights are flashing then....

Originally posted by expat2368
I have yet to see a commercial aircraft which has more than one strobe.

More opinion?

WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE I ASKED?

You know a quick google is showing me striobe lights in the wingtips of some aircraft.

This alone means there would be TWO. Unless youre also going to claim that no aircraft has more than one wing?

Anyone can visit their local airport and count the number of planes they see on the tarmac they see that has more than one strobe.

Also anyone can look at the videos and make their own judgement about what they see. Pretty compelling as far as I am concerned. You have your opinion I have mine. Your determination to trash the thread does say a lot as far as I am concerned.

here in holland, we know these treelights from very distant pasts.

they are called,
witte wijven freely translated > white biches
elfjes - fairies
bos nimphen - wood nymph
and quite a few others i cant remember atm


dancing leprecoons (these are way more vivid and mostly coherent child story`s, they seem to notice adults way faster.
when they spot you they flee too the middle and than disappear in a bright light.

there is even a story of a boy that came to close and got sucked in, he stayed not for long and came back 150 year later. , bu that was in england i think.

all over the world there are verry old story`s about these lights in woods

These (w/ the rest of this girls videos) could be the worst UFO videos I have ever seen. Even with the night vision amplifying light, The planes are easy to recognize .

Originally posted by expat2368
Anyone can visit their local airport and count the number of planes they see on the tarmac they see that has more than one strobe.

Also anyone can look at the videos and make their own judgement about what they see. Pretty compelling as far as I am concerned. You have your opinion I have mine. Your determination to trash the thread does say a lot as far as I am concerned.

You do NOT have evidence of any claim you have made in this thread thus far. I so far have facts, you so far have opinion.

Man up son.

Originally posted by expat2368
Your determination to trash the thread does say a lot as far as I am concerned.

By "trash the thread" you mean show that the so called UFO"S are just planes....

Have a look at www.aeroflash.com...

It appears a strobe per wingtip is pretty standard equipment that they sell....

Originally posted by enca78
Everything to you people is always, planes, helicopters, hotair balloons satalites and now fireflies? Like wtf? Im starting to wonder about what was said about all the disinfo agents here on ATS.

The fact you refuse to acknowledge that many UFO sightings are misidentifications, such as man-made objects and astronomical phenomenon, is telling. Your outrage that someone would dare try to find a mundane explanation is even more so. Calling someone a disinformation agent is the hallmark of a tiny mind with nothing intelligent to contribute.

Allison Krause and her videos are one of those excellent dividing lines that appears time to time on ATS. On one side stand the critical-thinkers and rational, regardless of whether they are skeptic or believer. On the other are the desperate and delusional, so committed to belief they will accept anything and defend it vehemently. It is a line that shows you who writes comments worth reading and those who have nothing of value to say. It is the worst of the worst here in the UFO & Aliens forums that support Allison.

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This Boeing 737 has at least 3 strobe lights planely (LUL) strobing.

See we dont need an airport. And we dont need opinion.


www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by enca78
Everything to you people is always, planes, helicopters, hotair balloons satalites and now fireflies? Like wtf? Im starting to wonder about what was said about all the disinfo agents here on ATS.

The fact you refuse to acknowledge that many UFO sightings are misidentifications, such as man-made objects and astronomical phenomenon, is telling. Your outrage that someone would dare try to find a mundane explanation is even more so. Calling someone a disinformation agent is the hallmark of a tiny mind with nothing intelligent to contribute.

Allison Krause and her videos are one of those excellent dividing lines that appears time to time on ATS. On one side stand the critical-thinkers and rational, regardless of whether they are skeptic or believer. On the other are the desperate and delusional, so committed to belief they will accept anything and defend it vehemently. It is a line that shows you who writes comments worth reading and those who have nothing of value to say.

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Star and flag for you sir! If I could flag it.

I cant believe this idiotic thread got this much attention or stars and flags.

I especially like the last sentence.

It's almost cute the way he changed his profile picture as his proof of being a salesman?

Really I dont know what the guys in her video are thinking.

Is it "hey we can get laid tonight if we agree with her"?

Or is it "man she might kill us out here and no one will find us if we disagree"?

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There are obviously a lot of mis-identifications made in regards to things flying around in the air.

The interesting thing about Alison is that it is not just her, it is several people living in the area who have regularly seen the same things she has seen. If anyone was saying Alison is nuts and they are planes and helicopters it would be different. This is another case where there are multiple witnesses that are there and not just some debunker who would scream hoax no matter what anyone posted.

Originally posted by watcher73
It's almost cute the way he changed his profile picture as his proof of being a salesman?

Expat is making an appeal to authority fallacy. His argument is that we should accept his expert opinion not based on any cogent argument supported by evidence but because he is an expert and nothing more.

yeah, bu this vid had me believe that what this bloke is filming.
how the vector symbolism fits in 100%
from 7:24 you see a real moving and activity,
vector spaceship !

look at this guy`s movie list, he is hooked by them





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Originally posted by expat2368
The interesting thing about Alison is that it is not just her, it is several people living in the area who have regularly seen the same things she has seen.

What you have are people who have been suckered into her delusion. It doesn't prove anything. Three men don't make a tiger.

Isn't it interesting that the most dramatic events don't seem to have been caught on film. In her Mysterious Universe interview, it is claimed Allison has had orbs come up to, and inside, her home. But there is no video of this. She witnesses an event that would unequivocally prove all of her critics wrong; despite this, all she can show us are lights in the distance and aircraft.

Originally posted by expat2368
If anyone was saying Alison is nuts and they are planes and helicopters it would be different.

Lots of people are saying she is nuts. MUFON investigated and found nothing extraordinary. All that Allison and her followers could answer with were ad hominems and conspiracy theories.

This is what you are expected to believe, expat: this woman is filming UFOs that seem to transform, not at some point in the distance, but only when they come near to her, coincidentally at about the same point a camera can start to distinguish the shape of an airplane from it's lights. You're also expected to believe that despite the advance technology that brought them across the stars, these aliens are so inept they can't convincingly (according to Allison) mimic a human aircraft. Is that what you really believe, expat? You willing to go on the record stating that's your belief?

Originally posted by Damian-007
So far I have seen her call Everything that shows up in that Scope a UFO.

Maybe thats because to her they ARE UFO's. She doesn't know what they are so therefore to her they are unidentified flying objects.
No reason to flame her because she calls a light a UFO..

UFO doesn't mean an alien spacecraft from the planet Pazoozoo

Originally posted by expat2368
This is another case where there are multiple witnesses that are there and not just some debunker who would scream hoax no matter what anyone posted.

What we have here is a UFO"logist" who would and does scream 'debunkers!' and 'conspiracy' no matter what anyone has posted.