Israel should be tried for war crimes

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Same goes to Israeli children signing bombs that are about to be dropped on Lebanon...

Israeli kids sign bombs for Lebanon
Canadian Content: Israeli kids sign bombs

If that doesn't make you I don't know what will...

Peace,

Magnum

reply to post by amyfriend


Where did you see Palestians dancing .

I missed that part.

Originally posted by amyfriend
after 911 seeing the palestinans dance in the streets you dont hold crap weight with me!!!


they blew it!


a lot here see their true color.

i wouldnt send 1 penny to them,

Captain Generalizer! Hold a whole country accountable for a screen shot of a few of them.

How about the 5 dancing Israelis who were videotaping the collapse?

AAC

Originally posted by windowlicker80

The majority of American foreign aid is being invested into the Israelite war machine to quash a nation robbed of there country, land, houses and livelihood fighting back armed with fireworks, the illegal nation of Israel are nothing but coward and deserve all that’s coming to them, during the troubles involving the British and the IRA did you ever hear of hospitals and school being flattened in Belfast, no because that’s the work of spineless bas***ds, so don't give us this bull about racism there's a reason for the hatred.

Check you disinfo sources again Mr Hatred.

For one thing, 75% of all American foreign aid to Israel is in the form of loan guarantees with the stipulation it be used for US produced goods and investment. Two billion alone is handed to Egypt to spend as they like. Add in other foreign aid to Muslim countries and the amount is staggering. Far more than Israeli funding which is returned in kind.

Hamas violated war terms not only provoking a retaliation but refusing to indentify themselves as a fighting force by wearing their standard garb, pusposefully using women and children as human shields by firing near or from hospitals and schools, where incidentally their leaders hid during the entire Gaza incursion.

If you check the available numbers, citizens of Gaza enjoy a higher standard of living than 90% of the Muslims in the Middle East. Billions flow in from Europe, the US and elsewhere. Serious questions have risen as almost none of the money ever ends up in the hands of ordinary Palestinians. Instead arms dealers but more importantly, Palestinian leaders end up with amazingly fat bank accounts.

Fighting Israel is the source of revenue for Palestinian leaders using the model of Yasser Arafat who died with an estimated bank account of $3 billion. In his lifetime his fat wife still living in Paris received as much as $22 million per month while Palestinian children went hungry. Arafat notably cancelled ever single peace arrangement with Israel knowing well his pipeline of wealth would be terminated if he ever ceased to maintain a provoked state of war in which innocent Palestinians were perpetual cannon fodder.

The true history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is very different from the one perpetuated by the popular agenda driven sources.


M


[edit on 16-1-2010 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by windowlicker80
reply to post by mmiichael

 

The majority of American foreign aid is being invested into the Israelite war machine to quash a nation robbed of there country, land, houses and livelihood fighting back armed with fireworks, the illegal nation of Israel are nothing but coward and deserve all that’s coming to them, during the troubles involving the British and the IRA did you ever hear of hospitals and school being flattened in Belfast, no because that’s the work of spineless bas***ds, so don't give us this bull about racism there's a reason for the hatred.

Yes because blowing yourself up in the middle of the shopping center is Brave Bold and Respecatable. . . .

Come on guy there is no excuse for the bull# tactics of Israel or the Palestinians. Its not all of them anyways and to say you hope they all get it is ignorant.

There are kind Israelis and Palestinians. Stop perpetuating the lie that either side is innocent because they are not. Neither side conforms to "the rules of engagement". Stop Berating people who defend Jewish people, Regular people aren't the culprits here, its militant assholes on both sides of the table.

I love how people conform to the trendy hate when they claim to be peace mongurs and truthers.

-1 friend -1

Originally posted by Ruusky
You guys must be joking right? For EIGHT i mean eight years hamas has been attacking Israel there has been a lot of damage done and a lot of people killed including one of my relatives.... and as soon as Israel backfires at them the world opens their eyes again and claims that it is isrealis fault... think of it this way someone pushes you around constantly what you going to do stand there? If i would remember the site i would show you guys of all hamas damage they have done BEFORE the attack...

Let's pick a convenient date and ignore actions prior to that so we can justify the unjustifiable.

Anyone who falls for that is a moron....

You state "someone pushes you around constantly what you going to do stand there".....well what the f... do you think the Palestinians are doing !!!!!!

You are a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Magnum007
reply to post by amyfriend

 

Same goes to Israeli children signing bombs that are about to be dropped on Lebanon...

Israeli kids sign bombs for Lebanon
Canadian Content: Israeli kids sign bombs

If that doesn't make you

I don't know what will...

Peace,

Magnum

Palestinian children are taught to hate Jews, to glorify "jihad" (holy war), violence, death and child martyrdom almost from birth, as an essential part of their culture and destiny.

As captured on an Israeli video documentary produced in 1998, a "Sesame Street"-like children's program called the "Children's Club" -- complete with puppet shows, songs, Mickey Mouse and other characters -- focused on inculcating intense hatred of Jews and a passion for engaging in and celebrating violence against them in a perpetual "jihad" until the day the Israeli flags come down from above "Palestinian land" and the Palestinian flag is raised.


Palestinian children throwing rocks at an Israeli military vehicle.

In one song on the "Children's Club," very young children are shown singing songs about wanting to become "suicide warriors" and to take up "a machine gun" to direct "violence, anger, anger, anger" against Israelis.

During the show, which features children aged 4-10, one young boy sings, "When I wander into Jerusalem, I will become a suicide bomber." Afterward, other children stand to call for "Jihad! Holy war to the end against the Zionist enemy."

In another segment, a boy who appears to be no more than 8 or 9 years old chants: "My patience has run out. All Arab existence cries for revenge" against the Jews in Israel.

www.wnd.com...

On March 16, 2004, Palestinian terrorists associated with Yasser Arafats Fatah group tricked a 12-year-old boy into carrying a large bomb in his school bag into a checkpoint near Nablus. Abdullah Quran's life was saved only because a cell phone rigged to detonate the 13-pound bomb failed to set off the explosive at the checkpoint as it had been designed to do. The border guard heard the cell phone and opened the bag.



Abdullah Quran
The unwitting youngster did not understand that he had been selected to be the youngest suicide bomber nor did he realize that the men who had persuaded him to carry the bomb were planning to kill him. He had been instructed to carry the package, which he believed were car parts, to a woman waiting on the other side of the checkpoint.

www.trutv.com...

Like ive said already point the finger whre it belongs. Israel isn't guilty alone. Take out a globe, spin it, put your finger down on any random piece of land, dollars to dimes says that the government there are causing suffering in one form or another.

What makes me sick is people that think they have it all figured out so that they can point that finger. Again point it where it needs pointing at the assholes who perpetuate this crap and its not just israel its all of them.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by constantwonder]

Originally posted by constantwonder

Like ive said already point the finger whre it belongs. Israel isn't guilty alone. Take out a globe, spin it, put your finger down on any random piece of land, dollars to dimes says that the government there are causing suffering in one form or another.

What makes me sick is people that think they have it all figured out so that they can point that finger. Again point it where it needs pointing at the assholes who perpetuate this crap and its not just israel its all of them.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by constantwonder]

On that globe of yours point to another country, with 7 million population thats gets 30 billion from USA to attack their indiginous residents ?

Originally posted by socrateeze
Israel has been attacking their neighbors and trying to get the world into another world war since 1948.

Uh, might want to do a bit of research there.

The Arab-Israeli war of 1948 started after Israel declared independance and FIVE Arab countries (Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon) attacked them.

reply to post by mmiichael


Lol so what your saying is it's ok for a civilalised nation to bomb schools and hospitals. Your deluded if you think america has nothing to do with the arming of Israel. "Mr. Hatred" it's hard to be anything but negitive when it comes to the state of Israel. Where you posting from a secret location in Tel Aviv?

reply to post by socrateeze


The UK should be tried with war crimes of sinking refugee ships coming to Israel after the Holocaust - there's a war crime right there! When white phosphorous is used on terrorists it is not a war crime, just like the CIA water-boarding terrorists is not a war crime.

Israel should be granted more support internationally for stopping these extremist terrorist from reaching US soil. Just say thank you and let us go on with our business.
It was Hamas's decision, thinking they would be safe to fire from densely populated areas. It is completely their fault for doing this to their own people.

a question - please answer:
If Cuba was firing rockets at Miami & Ft. Lauderdale, just because they are a democracy, what would the US do? I'm sure they wouldn't sit back and watch it happen would they?

The best way to keep a terrorist from firing another rocket is to burn him with white phosphorous. Look how much hatred the spew and spread, they even made me hate them.

Israel is doing the world a favor, being the first line of defense so that these international lawyers can sue us from the safe and peaceful Hague in the Netherlands.

You all know better than this, and respect Israel for fighting terrorism like no other country in the world is doing!!

Originally posted by bigyin

Originally posted by constantwonder

Like ive said already point the finger whre it belongs. Israel isn't guilty alone. Take out a globe, spin it, put your finger down on any random piece of land, dollars to dimes says that the government there are causing suffering in one form or another.

What makes me sick is people that think they have it all figured out so that they can point that finger. Again point it where it needs pointing at the assholes who perpetuate this crap and its not just israel its all of them.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by constantwonder]

On that globe of yours point to another country, with 7 million population thats gets 30 billion from USA to attack their indiginous residents ?

You seem to be missing the point. It's not the people its the Governing bodies, the leaders, the tyrants. Hate them not the people. You actually helped make my point.

The American people are robbed the money then goes to fuel both sides of every major conflict for the last 60+ years.

I just can't stand it when people direct so much hatred towards regular people who have nothing to do with it.

If this thread were about how wrong world leaders are it would be one thing. It however is not its anit-semite hate monguring. No people should be excoriatied based on what its government does.

Here at home in the U.S our government is doing tons of stuff the citizenry hates. No matter what we say however they continue to do as they please. Can you blame the american people for this when they disagree with it aswell?

I didn't agree to send Israel any money but in threads that discuss it I (or all Americans) get lumped in with the tyrants at the top.

I guess you'd say I try to be a true humanitarian not a selective humanitarian. The vast majority of people all over the world deserve respect and love.

Hate the right people, not all the people

Originally posted by NoamC
reply to post by socrateeze

 

The UK should be tried with war crimes of sinking refugee ships coming to Israel after the Holocaust - there's a war crime right there! When white phosphorous is used on terrorists it is not a war crime, just like the CIA water-boarding terrorists is not a war crime.

Israel should be granted more support internationally for stopping these extremist terrorist from reaching US soil. Just say thank you and let us go on with our business.
It was Hamas's decision, thinking they would be safe to fire from densely populated areas. It is completely their fault for doing this to their own people.

a question - please answer:
If Cuba was firing rockets at Miami & Ft. Lauderdale, just because they are a democracy, what would the US do? I'm sure they wouldn't sit back and watch it happen would they?

The best way to keep a terrorist from firing another rocket is to burn him with white phosphorous. Look how much hatred the spew and spread, they even made me hate them.

Israel is doing the world a favor, being the first line of defense so that these international lawyers can sue us from the safe and peaceful Hague in the Netherlands.

You all know better than this, and respect Israel for fighting terrorism like no other country in the world is doing!!

I'm sorry but killing civilians (which both sides do) is not a favor to anyone. Both sides are guilty of atrocities, and its the innocent that suffer on both sides.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by constantwonder]

reply to post by socrateeze


For crying out loud, i am CERTAIN that if you had a neighbor who had been threatening you, and yor entire family with death, and if they had threatened on several occassions to erase your family, you and your entire house from the face of the Earth, and if that neighbor had been throwing stones, and molotov cocktails at your house DAILY, and if most of the world, and the police did not cared about it, and allowed your neighbor to continue to threaten you, your entire family, and allowed your neighbor to attack you and your entire family YOU would be doing the same, or even worse than What "Israel" has done...

Both sides have done unspeakable things but at least Israel is doing it in self defense, meanwhile the palestinian terrorists, the Palestinian authorities and the entire Islamic nations have wanted, and still want the total destruction of Israel...

People like you don't care to hear about the facts... Either you are a Palestinian sympathizer, or you are an ignorant person, not to say something else, and you don't give a crap about what is really happening there....

Israel is not only the government of Israel, there are millions of Jewish people living in Israel, and they are part of Israel, but people like you put all of israel as "some evil entity", and you are regurgitating the same crap the Palestinian TERRORISTS say every day as they seek the total destruction of all of Israel and it's people, or for the Jewish people to SUBMIT to the will of the Islamic extremists.....

Originally posted by Magnum007
They should be tried for many many many many other crimes they committed over the years, IE: Creating the Gaza and West Bank Prisons, not letting in food and water, cutting electricity, using people as human shields... etc...

But Israel can do no wrong...

Magnum

you have mistaken the sides... it is the Palestinian terrorists who use people as human shields...it is the Palestinian terrorists who strap little kids with freaking suicide vests and send tem towards Israeli possitions, which is why the Israeli military are weary even of little Palestinian kids because they could have a suicide vest on... it is the Palestinian authorities, and the entire Islamic extremists who should be tried for war crimes, but people like you don't care and condone the attrocities committed by the palestinians....

How many "Palestinian, or Islamic terrorists" do we have in the website trying to incite more violence against Israel and it's people?.....

[edit on 16-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

reply to post by NoamC


What are you talking about how in the hell can you compare Cuba with Palistine.

Hey how about we shove americans into ghettos and give the native americans there land back, then arm the natives to the teeth while imposing sanctions on the yanks, any form of resistance will be meet with genocide, hows that sound to you?

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Very very true.
It is a precaution that was learned after little 7 year olds put down their baseball cards starring terrorists (yes, really) and strapped themselves to explosives and went out to blow their Muslim selves up on Israeli soldiers.
It is because Hamas taught them to do so, even not on soldiers, but on children younger than they are.
Instead of shipping UN "regional experts" to Gaza to cry about the Humanitarian situation Hamas has brought upon the region, you should bring those terrorists to justice.

Think who you want to be supporting. If you think for more than a left-wing 2 seconder- you will arrive at the correct conclusion.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by socrateeze

 

For crying out loud, i am CERTAIN that if you had a neighbor who had been threatening you, and yor entire family with death, and if they had threatened on several occassions to erase your family, you and your entire house from the face of the Earth, and if that neighbor had been throwing stones, and molotov cocktails at your house DAILY, and if most of the world, and the police did not cared about it, and allowed your neighbor to continue to threaten you, your entire family, and allowed your neighbor to attack you and your entire family YOU would be doing the same, or even worse than What "Israel" has done...

Both sides have done unspeakable things but at least Israel is doing it in self defense, meanwhile the palestinian terrorists, the Palestinian authorities and the entire Islamic nations have wanted, and still want the total destruction of Israel...

People like you don't care to hear about the facts... Either you are a Palestinian sympathizer, or you are an ignorant person, not to say something else, and you don't give a crap about what is really happening there....

Israel is not only the government of Israel, there are millions of Jewish people living in Israel, and they are part of Israel, but people like you put all of israel as "some evil entity", and you are regurgitating the same crap the Palestinian TERRORISTS say every day as they seek the total destruction of all of Israel and it's people, or for the Jewish people to SUBMIT to the will of the Islamic extremists.....

Sorry EU but your pissing in the wind freind. ATS has become a harbor for anti-semite hate. One of the best websites in teh world is being brought down by the selective hatred of certain entire groups of people.

Why aren't we discussing the mass deaths of chinese government discenters? Why aren't we talkin about the government in Sudan killing thousands of their own people? Why aren't we talking about the erasure of Israel that the arab nations have promised and sought since its inception?

Jews and Muslims have been visciously attacking eachother for almost all of recorded history. But of course we aren't talking about that because it doesn't fit into the excoriate the Jews catergory.

People are so concernec with bashing Israel they are blind to any thing other than there own ideas based on what they been told not what they've learned through experience or actual personal research.

Of course hate swells when all you do is quote articles from questionable (in their objectivity) news sources. It will never come out truth when the sources of info are all spin.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by constantwonder]

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by socrateeze

 

For crying out loud, i am CERTAIN that if you had a neighbor who had been threatening you, and yor entire family with death, and if they had threatened on several occassions to erase your family, you and your entire house from the face of the Earth,

No. Just off the land that was stolen from them. Stop obfuscating the facts with an extraneous amount of irrelevant information. You just built a whole perspective from your mind, unconfirmed by truth. If you disagree, prove your words.

and if that neighbor had been throwing stones, and molotov cocktails at your house DAILY

For crying out loud, what if your neighbor came into your house, kicked in the wall, shot your father and took your property and banished you to a prison street, what would you do? There is another side to your biased coin.

,

and if most of the world, and the police did not cared about it,

Come again? Your story is trailing off...

and allowed your neighbor to continue to threaten you, your entire family, and allowed your neighbor to attack you and your entire family

Israel takes care of themselves with western backing of funds and military. Where do you get your facts from?

YOU would be doing the same, or even worse than What "Israel" has done...

Only if I was a simple-minded hate monger who doesn't believe in altruism. Think.

Both sides have done unspeakable things but at least Israel is doing it in self defense,

At least? Self defense? How can you justify that? Oh by the news. Something in which Zionists own and operate. How many news channels do Palestinians own? Yikes. So selfishly one-dimensional.

meanwhile the palestinian terrorists, the Palestinian authorities and the entire Islamic nations have wanted, and still want the total destruction of Israel...

How about the end of their thieving, lying, manipulating ways of stifling truth?

People like you don't care to hear about the facts...

Um... Nothing you said were facts.

Either you are a Palestinian sympathizer,

What you are is apparent.

Israel is not only the government of Israel, there are millions of Jewish people living in Israel, and they are part of Israel, but people like you put all of israel as "some evil entity",

Like it or not, you are wrong....

AAC

reply to post by windowlicker80


Your'e implying that Palestinians were somehow here before we "came" out of Europe sometime last century.
Yea, OK.
Palestinians are Jordanians, There is no Palestine other than Latin words on Roman maps and this hogwash new-age west side of the Jordan river terrorists.
Palestinians are Jordanians, the only difference is that they are on this side and their brothers are on the other. Does Jordan want the Palestinians back? no! because the king is scared to death from these people. so it's Israels' problem now. thank you.

You are the sort of person, I know, that goes on about Palestinians being here for centuries and stuff like that.
Palestinians?? Islam has been around for half the Judaism - founded in Israel has been.
Where do you people get your information?