Images from GAZA - WARNING!!! GRAPHIC

reply to post by freighttrain


So if all of Israel (including the Gaza strip) originally belonged to the Palestinians, where did the Israel / Jews come from in the first place?

Did they just march over the border and say clear off you lot, it's ours now?

When did all this happen (the Palest. being supposedly kicked out of their own country?

Jesus was a Jew and born in Israel and that was 2000 + years ago!

So are we harping on about something that happened even before that?

Originally posted by mikellmikell
It's an old saying " Don't bite the hand that feeds you" Some people are too dense to figure it out.

And who are you referring to here? The fact that Israel holds all the cards as to what goes into Palestine? Or the fact that Israel exists because of American policy? Israel has bitten that hand many times and it still hasn't been rectified. You gave me an idea for a thread though. Thanks.

reply to post by freighttrain


The time a nation has been on a spot of land has no correlation to its right to be there. Bare in mind every single nation that stands today exists as a result of stealing that land from someone before it.

It doesn't make either side right. It's just something to avoid when defending a side, seeing as we're all guilty.

reply to post by Damian-007


A God would let his creation be savages and provide an obvious route to the right side. In all of history, I can only think of two people who have treaded this right path that was set up so long ago: Gandhi and Jesus. Nonviolence.

This allows for free will, and the ultimate free acceptance of what is right, as opposed to being forced to accept what is right or wrong a la moral dictator.

Would you honestly expect all the world to listen to God if he said stop fighting? It would only last for as long as God stayed there to say it.

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Thanks for the images, you wouldn't see these on BBC news. If only Hamas had stopped firing rockets and this would never have happened.

And if only Israel had stopped creating settlements in Gaza, Hamas would have never fired those rockets.

Thats the real terrorist act......... i don't have words to describe it.

Originally posted by Lunatyx
And thus history repeats itself... Only this time the israelites are the nazis. I cannot believe that people who have been mass murdered in the past could do the same to others.

I know I shouldn`t be saying this, but maybe, someone in the past should have done a better job a doing a certain thing...

How convenient. Just pick up the "Holocaust card" as much as possible. Good to know that some people believe it actually happened, when ever it's fits for a purpose. Btw, did you know the Nazi's also killed homosexuals, handicapped, gypsies and all other "not wanted" ?

I agree what you say. You shouldn't be saying this.
And i should not be saying this, but i'm almost sure it was a jew who created Microsoft. I hope it doesn't hurt to much

good, im glad that isreal wont sit back and let the real terrorist in teh middle east fire rockets onto their land.
they have every right to defend themselves.

Pictures like this can be found from any conflict. You can't have double standards, hate this when Israel does it, but people could care less that it happens in every conflict no matter how just the cause of conflict. Also, i guess u guys don't care that every govt's is supposed to protect its citizens, which goes along with the thinking that a citizen's life of ur country > non-citizen (especially if non-ally).

Originally posted by john124
Thanks for the images, you wouldn't see these on BBC news.

If only Hamas had stopped firing rockets and this would never have happened.

you are right, you wouldn't see these pictures on any MSM, but you bloody well should, maybe people would come out from being stuck in front of their little idiot boxes in the corner of the room hypnotising their sorry little butts and make them realise what it really going on it the world. But people are to sensitive, it would be to upsetting for them, Well good, let them see, let the world see. there has never and will never be an excuse for this, murdering scum, and they need to pay for their crimes. And this in the name of religious rights, F@*c religion, it is the most evil thing on this planet, RIP little ones, mums dads, brothers, sisters, and all.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Damian-007

 

A God would let his creation be savages and provide an obvious route to the right side. In all of history, I can only think of two people who have treaded this right path that was set up so long ago: Gandhi and Jesus. Nonviolence.

This allows for free will, and the ultimate free acceptance of what is right, as opposed to being forced to accept what is right or wrong a la moral dictator.

Would you honestly expect all the world to listen to God if he said stop fighting? It would only last for as long as God stayed there to say it.

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I understand what you are saying. In my eyes however, A God is suppose to be a Loving and Just God.

How could any God, who supposedly created Mankind, allow the Killing and Suffering of tiny, Innocent Children? Surely the All Mighty God knows the Children are innocent of any crimes and Childen really have no "Free Will'. They are solely depedant on other people and their surroundings.

My interpretation of a God wouldn't allow these things to happen. For someone to say "God gave mankind Free Choice"and "Free Will", is just a cop out.

If I was a God and created something that Kills, Maims, Tortures, Pollutes It's Enviromen and thinks that we are above any other Species on the Planet, I would be a Very Sad and Angry God.. I would then rid the Planet of that Creation and start again.

It seems everyone has an answer to why God never helps and Never get's involved.

THERE IS NO GOD..

If you really think about it Logically, Humans are exactly like a Virus. We Multiply and Invade our Host exactly the same way a Virus Does. You just have to look at our Achievment in Slowly Destroying Our Planet.

Sooner or Later, Mother Nature has to come up with a Cure for the Earth and create a Vaccine that Rids the Planet of us "Humans"..

To be Honest, I think "Mother Nature" is already trying hard to do that.

reply to post by The Transhumanist


Israel has been taking them down. Israeli civilians have been putting them up. Don't blame the government for stubborn individuals. Is the US government responsible for racial conflicts when people move?

Also I fail to see why one group of people colonizing blank land is reason to attack other than racism. It's not like America where the colonists killed the Indians.

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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by The Transhumanist

 

Israel has been taking them down. Israeli civilians have been putting them up. Don't blame the government for stubborn individuals. Is the US government responsible for racial conflicts when people move?

Also I fail to see why one group of people colonizing blank land is reason to attack other than racism. It's not like America where the colonists killed the Indians.

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Gaza was seized from egypt. It was not 'blank land"

Also, israel was illegally given land by the U.N. so what did they do? Stole more from egypt, jordan and (i believe) syria.

They are not innocent.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots


Gaza was seized from egypt. It was not 'blank land"

Also, israel was illegally given land by the U.N. so what did they do? Stole more from egypt, jordan and (i believe) syria.

They are not innocent.

Could you describe for us the circumstances under which Israel "stole the land?" in question? I'm interested in your understanding of that...

Originally posted by STFUPPERCUTTER
good, im glad that isreal wont sit back and let the real terrorist in teh middle east fire rockets onto their land.
they have every right to defend themselves.

I didn't know defending themselves meant dropping bombs on civilian homes and businesses. I didn't know defending themselves meant shooting a pregnant women in the stomach. I just didn't know...Thanks for clearing that up though

Man those pictures were so awful.


The kids and babies.


It just breaks my heart.


Without getting into the politics, just spare a thought for those victims.

Originally posted by BiGGz

Originally posted by STFUPPERCUTTER
good, im glad that isreal wont sit back and let the real terrorist in teh middle east fire rockets onto their land.
they have every right to defend themselves.

I didn't know defending themselves meant dropping bombs on civilian homes and businesses. I didn't know defending themselves meant shooting a pregnant women in the stomach. I just didn't know...Thanks for clearing that up though

Civilians die like this in every conflict.

Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by captaintyinknots


Gaza was seized from egypt. It was not 'blank land"

Also, israel was illegally given land by the U.N. so what did they do? Stole more from egypt, jordan and (i believe) syria.

They are not innocent.

Could you describe for us the circumstances under which Israel "stole the land?" in question? I'm interested in your understanding of that...

Israel never existed up until 1948. Their land was originally the Palestinians land.
(I hope I'm correct)

Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by captaintyinknots


Gaza was seized from egypt. It was not 'blank land"

Also, israel was illegally given land by the U.N. so what did they do? Stole more from egypt, jordan and (i believe) syria.

They are not innocent.

Could you describe for us the circumstances under which Israel "stole the land?" in question? I'm interested in your understanding of that...

No thats okay, You have already attacked me enough. The history is indisputable.

Do your own homework.