The cold truth about alien abductions and the new age.

[edit on 15-1-2010 by DClairvoyant]

One question though Moonman1111 have you ever worked outside the Public Sector?

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Originally posted by Moonman1111

Originally posted by DClairvoyant

hate to break it to you but don't know anything. And do not try and paint me an image just because I know the truth about these little sh1t beings you wish to make friends with. and I am not trying to disrespect you, I am sick of people being deceived, its the weakest links like you who I am trying to help but I guess it all in God's hands in the end. And again, do not get righteous anger and hate mixed up. I have no paranoia, no phobias, or any fear. I could work on patience though if I may so so

Okay, you want to help me. You've got my full attention. Go ahead. Il try to be patient.

P.s its strange just after saying what was on my mind and your comment in return i saw this one coming yesterday but thought id play it out and it still happened so you've obviously got a message or two to help me back on the right path. Thats what made me realise to listen to you.


Could you be a little more specific when you mentioned that i do not know anything? That's a little harsh don't you agree? There are plenty of things I know but in your opinion this is one i dont know, would you agree?



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reply to post by Moonman1111


Why is it that you believe in the greys in the first place?

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see your taking other peoples word for it in the end until you yourself have been there done that in the end your still taking someones word for it..just like that do you think aliens would actually leave something behind that says hey an alien was here i think not!

reply to post by Moonman1111


your the guy that if an alien was to come warn us of some catastrophe before the alien had a chance to sya anyhting you would shoot it in the head and then get the whole god damn world invaded!

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They are the God damn catastrophe and abominations.

reply to post by Moonman1111


maybe maybe not you cant prove that no more then i can prove that i've seen them! what needs to be done is a team formed together head west and become not ufo hunters but alien hunters and see if we can figure out what there actually up to since they have been in and out of my life its no secret to think that there not done with me whatever it is so i say we go hunt them down in there stronghold which is out west i'll be the bait and see if we can get over the mind numbing fear and actually communicate outside of being temporarily paralyzed

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Hello metalholic, Look through the thread and see that people like you have patiently tried and failed to be a voice of reason and to explain exactly what you have tried to explain but the OP is not listening.

His head is so filled with religion; he has twisted its true meaning and lost all sense of reason and objectivity.

It might be best to let him rattle off his close minded rhetoric while those with an open mind and those of us who are tired of death through ignorance look for another way that does not involve causing pain to others because of ignorance warped into blackness by fanatical religious faith.

Just thought I would say this to save you wasting your time upon his mind, he is deaf to reason and lost to ignorance and religious zeal!

Or he is just trolling – I hope it is the latter!

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well sometimes you just have to show your whole hand on a matter i think after my last reply to him he will see that he is at a stand still as i'am i cant prove i been visited and he cant prove there intentions...as far as the proof he does show its a biased side that shows his theory i'm sure there have been good encounters aslong with bad but what people should remember is these are intelligent beings from another planet what is morally right to them is not gonna be the same as ours them girls being naked and put in embarassing positions being studied thats no different then how we do animals ony difference is we know we are naked but the aliens arent even thinking about that there not going hey look at this bitches mosquito bite titties or look at them bologna nipples they dont care about that...anything can be misconstruded you could say there researching to find out our weaknesses to better a takeover's success or u could say there studying our evolution or just interested in us all in all whatever the case until one comes forward and reveals who knows but i would say just like any species there are probably bad aliens and good aliens some are going to think were inferior and some are going to treat us as equals!

Originally posted by IntastellaBurst


That's so hard to read, .... PARAGRAPH'S man, for the love of god. how old are ya kid .... 11, 12 ??

Im kidding moon man, however I disagree that these, or all aliens are " monsters" as you put them.

they are doing exactly what we are doing to animals here, ... we capture them, observe them, .. tag and track them. Their simply trying to learn about us.

As far as human mutilations go, .... some specie's of alien's are probably so advanced that they think of us as a lesser specie's, ... so they don't see any harm in cutting a few of us up for the greater good of knowledge, ...... this idea is very fightening indeed. However we do the same here, testing things on and killing chimps and other lab animals. ... does that make US monster's ??

i suppose everythings a matter of perspective.

I think you should do a little more research on this subject, the experimentation period finished long time ago...

The primary reason of abductions done by the Greys aliens is the creation of new generations of hybrids.

I wonder ehere are they going to put these hybrids when they feel the project should move to the next phase...

Originally posted by Marrr
Take it easy on the guy, no need to talk down to him about periods and commas, jezuz. That being said, personally, I think they're demons

Say to take it easy to the thousands of peoples whose lives has been ruined because such experiences...

Originally posted by RamsOnTop
The threat by David Jacobs is a VERY good book on this very subject. In his opinion, human beings (abductees) are taken because of their reproductive abilities. They are running a hybrid program and need human men and women to have intercourse with these hybrids.

Abductees are also abducted because the aliens want humans to teach the hybrids on how to behave in human environment, how to interact, be social etc.

Why are they teaching all this to the hybrids? That is the million dollar question.

And finally, the truth has arrived...

Originally posted by Mech740
Beings operating on much higher frequencies than we do might not percieve good & bad to the extremes like we do. The unbalance in polarity that we experience is a result of our dense reality. Calling a being a monster because of an abduction of the nature that you explained, is going to the extreme, and is simply your dense perception of that occurance. In the aliens perception, their may be no sense of wrong-doing in the abduction. 2 different beings with 2 different perceptions on reality. Besides, we shouldn't get caught up in the right & wrong of things but instead realize that everything thats happening on our earth reality is predestined and acceptance of all the things in all moments should be our primary focus. We should work to clear our negative thoughts and "condition" ourselves to have possitive thoughts and outlooks

That's just a theory, a very 'new age' one.

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maybe there is a divine being an alien ofcourse who came to this earth with other aleins of his kind looking much like humans but with there own differences ofcourse making us with there image using clay of the earth and there dna we arrived and by using there dna to help create us we acquired some of this divine energy that the greys d not have as they are not linked to the divine spirit as they evolved from another planet and species they come here and make hybrids hoping that the hybrids would acquire some of this divine energy or whatever it is because they do not have it i could go on but i'm gonna leave it at that for now!

Originally posted by Moonman1111
Experimentation, intimidation, hybrid creation, chip implantations, physical and mental abuse and humiliation, animal and human mutiliation, and deceivement is all a part the alien agenda, where are these 'good ones' everybody is talking about or expecting?

People must stop looking to Aliens for salvation. The New Age is taking peoples awarness away from themselves as truth and to "Aliens of light" instead. The cold truth is salvation is not to be found in any of these galactic federations, Commanders of ships such as Ashtar or any other human looking alien.

It is far easier for people to believe and hope in these good aliens for salvation rather than trust and believe in their inner awarness. Why is it people are so frightened of actually looking to themselves for answers, instead they prefer to believe in good aliens.

Many claim to have seen good entities, aliens of light, Nordics and such like. Well thats all well and good but unfortunatly all is not what it seems in this Universe of ours. Those who control will present you with what ever image it is you desire, if that image is one that can control and manipulate the masses.

Salvation is not to be found in New Age or any of its alien brothers, it is to be found deep within the ancient human soul. I used to follow New Age alien agendas and its many "cults", that was until I searched deep within my soul for answers and saw what a complete load of manipulation and lies it all is. Its lies to control us. As people started to wake up and become more aware main stream religions started to loose their attraction , so alternative methods of control were needed....welcome to The "New" Age of control.

THE UNITED FEDERATION

Originally having its genesis in an ancient Lyran (Vegan) alliance with the Murians and Gobians of Terra,
the Federation consists of a number of colonial worlds near Vega Lyra, the Andromeda Constellation, the Pleiades-Hyades open clusters (and their anti-matter universe counterparts the Koldasians, Dal-ites, Timers, etc.), Alpha Centauri, Tau Ceti, Epsilon Eridani, lumma/Ummo [Wolf 424] and others.


Mostly of human heritage, the "Federation" adheres to a strict nonintervention policy.

Federation personnel apparently contacted William Shatner in the Mojave desert years before he became famous for his part in the STAR TREK series, and certain ideas from real life turned up in the "inspired" television series.

For thousands of years these "MU-SUVIANS" of the ancient Mojave region have been colonizing nearby star systems from their massive base below the Panamint Mts. of Death Valley using hyperspace propulsion.
The Death Valley - Panamint base is currently one of the largest and oldest Federation bases on [or within] the Earth, and consists of vast natural and artificial caverns and chambers - some of them miles in diameter - which possess differing environmental, atmospheric and gravitational conditions to accommodate the various Federation dignitaries who are always visiting the base to observe events on Earth.


REPTILIANS (Alpha Draconis)

In direct opposition to the United Federation is the Reptilian Race. The 'Benevolent Ones'
This is the Race that can be found operating in the Dulce New Mexico Area.

In Allegience with this race is:
American Intelligence agencies ie. Navy's "COM-12".
Bavarian Intelligence agencies such as the CIA-NSA "AQUARIUS" .
This group maintains a pact with and is even largely under the control of the Reptilian Gray Empire Collective.
MJ-12 seems to be vacillating between the two extremes, and may in fact be a battleground betweend serpents . Serpents described below:

Serpents:

Tall tall Reptilioids control various smaller reptilian "gray" species which reproduce via polyembryony, egg hatcheries and/or cloning;

A malevolent iguana-like dark-skinned sorcerer-priest class that is often seen wearing hooded robes standing about 5 ft. tall;

A shorter 4-5 ft. tall race of reptilian-amphibians that have been described as appearing like "frog faced lizards".

Nordic Slaves to Serpents: Often a Nordic is seen in the company of several of these "Reptilians" .


Nordics (Lyra) and the Silver Fleet Alliance (Nephilim (Giants) ) Vs. Reptilian (Dracos)

Maurice Doreal, alledged discoverer and translator of the "Emerald Tablets" of Thoth and Colorado metaphysician claims he made contact with the neo-Mayan residents of Mt. Shasta, who are part of the Aghatan Sliver Fleet Alliance.
He also claims that he has viewed the crystal holographic recordings revealing an ancient race of whom are again in alliance with a race of human giants that live within the bowels of earth on a large island in the middle of the sea under the Gobi desert. * This particular area has been also linked to the mythological 'Shambhala'.

These blond-haired, blue-eyed "Nordics" along with their larger "Nephelim" friends (Giants) waged an intense warfare with a race of Reptilian hominoids based in Antarctica.. These creatures had apparently evolved from the earlier saurian bipeds such as the very cunning Velociraptors. Through continued development they now have mastered the ability to shape- shift or create a physical illusion around themselves through the practice of mesmerization . In a nutshell, they had, and have, the ability to walk among us and pass themselves off as humans.

The war ended with the Reptilioids being driven from the surface of the planet, taking refuge in underground and off-planet bases. Some reptilians did not escape however, and were caught by surprise when the Nordics- Nephelim launched an experimental super-weapon

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WTF???? When these people became qualified as experts in Orionite and Draconian spaceships layout??? For half billion years ancient extraterrestrial races have been exploring this solar system, far before the raise of Earth homo-sapiens. They lived here, before we appear, they built empires here in ancient times, probably the all different ethnic groups of this planet are alien crossbreeding, they raised civilizations, probably 90% or our social structure was imported from other worlds and people insist spreading this sick propaganda about a f*cking invasion. WHAT INVASION??? Why any advanced hostile alien race didn't invade Earth, in the Middle Age, when human race had only bows, arrows, spears and swords??? This planet is a rare pearl in this solar system. If some advanced extraterrestrial race (or groups) wanted to assault and take this planet, surely ALREADY would have done it. Anybody have considered that MAY THERE BE alien races living here, in undersea and underground bases, since eras ago?? What we know about our past??? Extraterrestrial beings ruled this planet until the last Egyptian dynasties, WTF we know about it??? The "God" worshiped by the Christians is a 22 ft humanoid that even nor did like this planet. What Reptilian invasion are we waiting for, if the f*cking Reptilians have been working WITH US MILITARY in secret bases for decades???? Anyone realized that the mining mission of the Anunnaki isn't finished yet, and these massive objects seen in this system could be exploring the other planets and its moons??? Why these contactee morons as Collier and Goodchild and Reptile-shapeshifter conspiracy maniacs as David Icke, just don't shut the f*ck up??? The last thing we need is a massive panic about a hostile alien invasion. About "Draconian mothership attack". Who named these a*sholes, public relations for extraterrestrial diplomatic affairs???

all i've got to say is that wether these aliens be good or evil no one knows for sure what their agenda is so moonman1111 if you've never met an alien and cant read minds everything you posted is a biased opinion not fact true the in stories you posted the people had a negative reaction to the aliens but wouldnt anyone if they encountered somthing unknown? and you also have to take in mind what the aliens do to humans we also do to other humans and animals this is nothing new they just have more advanced technology to make the job less sloppy

Originally posted by metalholic

see your taking other peoples word for it

How so? Whose word?

just like that do you think aliens would actually leave something behind that says hey an alien was here i think not!

Let's have some fun with this.

just like that do you think fairies would actually leave something behind that says hey fairies were here, i think not.

just like that do you think big foot would actually leave something behind that says hey big foot was here, i think not.

just like that do you think ghosts would actually leave something behind that says hey ghosts were here, i think not.

just like that do you think reptilians would actually leave something behind that says hey reptilians were here, i think not.

Is it starting to sink in?

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prove there arent aliens or ufo's!! when you are able to do this let me know! with that being said as your not a believer why engage in conversation about them? because at the end of the day you cant prove no more then a believer can! but maybe you should get on youtube or even google the guy who surgeorically removes transmitters from abductees and explain why it is no one has been able to identify the material in these people!