Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues

People just need to be happy with what they have. Dare to dream, by all means, but don't discount the wonders of the world because you saw something that looked prettier...

I think depression comes from "wishing" we were there! A life in a place so beautiful and spiritual! Cameron hit it on the nail, he brought our a glimpse of our past (the beauty and spiritual side) and reminded us of where we come from and where we can be! So naturally the sensitive people feel depressed because we live in a crappy world today... hate... war... crimes... with almost no hope to leave this world anytime soon!

I can understand why some get depressed... it's more like "ah, I wish we could leave that life, not this"

Avatar is indeed an epic in visuals and technological razzle dazzle, with some fantastic added story twists. It's powerful and great to watch, but original, it is not. We need look no further than Planet Earth to find such an Eden...

The following was written by Matt Bateman, and is found at a number of websites under the title: "Proof that Avatar is Actually Pocahontas in 3-D."

www.bspcn.com...

In 1607 (2154), a ship carrying John Smith (Jake Sully) arrives in the lush "new world" of North America (Pandora). The settlers are mining for gold (unobtanium); under the supervision of Governor Radcliffe (Colonel Quaritch). John Smith (Jake Sully) begins exploring the new territory, and encounters Pocahontas (Neytiri). Initially, she is distrustful of him, but a message from Grandmother Willow (The Tree of Souls) helps her overcome her trepidation. The two begin spending time together, Pocahontas (Neytiri) helps John (Jake) understand that all life is valuable, and how all nature is a connected circle of life. Furthermore, she teaches him how to hunt, grow crops (tame dragons) and about her culture. We find that her father is Chief Powhatan (Eytucan), and that she is set to be married to Kocoum (Tsu'tey), a great warrior, but a serious man, whom Pocahontas (Neytiri) does not desire. Over time, John (Jake) and Pocahontas (Neytiri) find that they have a love for each other. Back at the settlement, the men, who believe the natives are savages, plan to attack the natives for their gold (unobtanium). Kocoum (Tsu'tey) tries to kill John (Jake) out of jealousy, but he is later killed by the settlers. As the settlers prepare to attack, John (Jake) is blamed by the Indians (Na'vi), and is sentenced to death. Just before they kill him, the settlers arrive. Chief Powhatan (Eytucan) is nearly killed (is killed), and John (Jake) sustains injuries from Gov. Ratcliffe (Col. Quaritch), who is then brought to justice (shot with arrows). Pocahontas (Neytiri) risks her life to save John (Jake). John (Jake) and Pocahontas (Neytiri) finally have each other, and the two cultures resolve their differences.

I don't see anything wrong in committing suicide unless you are raising kids perhaps. However, I don't see any point in it as death will happen for you later on anyway. Life ain't that long. Might as well be lazy and ride it out. Not a big deal.

great, another group of depressed individuals who arent gonna do anything about anything. moving on

Ok, quick question...Is it worth seeing? I know it's apparently a HUGE globalist agenda movie, but putting all that aside, would a person be any better today after having seen Avatar?...The depression is simple. The movie, according to what I can deduce, is a sensory overload: bright and vivid colors, loud noises, 3-D images, explosions, action, suspense. When people experience profound sensory stimulation, their brains release serotonin (the pleasure chemical) and norepinephrine (adrenaline more or less). After a release, there is always a crash.

Originally posted by December_Rain
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No no you are taking it wrong I did not misunderstood you at all, what I was saying it is sheer wrong to even contemplate such a thing by anyone (not you). I agreed with your posts

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HUGGLES all cool in love and posts

GREAT find BTW from the Avatar Forums... PERFECT EXAMPLES

I often pine for the simpler days of Hildebrandt paintings and imagining myself fighting Orcs at the Battle of Helms Deep....


Oh, and then I turned 10.

Originally posted by InertiaZero
You know, our own planet is pretty beautiful if you go outside.

Just sayin'.

Most people would rather take the trips to the bar than save up and go somewhere cool

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Honestly, if you have the money, then yes. Even if just to see how far technology has come in the last few years. Content/story wise, it isn't the best of movies, but it does have some really good moments.

Visually, it's something that I think no TV (or TV that normal people have access to) can replicate, you just have to see it on the big screen to get the full effect.

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Thanks! I heard it's the same exact movie as Dances With Wolves, but with an oil agenda and blue aliens instead indians. I happen to like DWW alot, so I guess I could tolerate a remake in space...plus, the visual effects are very intriguing.

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yeah that makes sense...less political but more spiritual and involving people together as a whole.

the only thing thats wrong with that is the people themselves

if a man were to walk down a street in the snow and slip over...its an accident..nothing he could do...on with his life....however if i were to go out in the morning and clear the path of snow in an attempt to make it safer...and that man should then slip over...he'd sue my ass for thousands because he could claim it my fault.

burgler trips and brakes ankle in home he is burgling...he sues the home owners

rape VICTIM in dubai gets arrested and inprisoned for sex before marriage.

this is the world we live in...people lack common sense. human stupidity afterall is infinite

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"Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

First off: This matter is referring exactly to people of WHAT part of the world??? Well, I assume that's talking about North-Americans. But just HOLD ON!!!!! How many of these interviewed people ALREADY have usual suicidal thoughts? How many of these people use DRUGS that keeps them trapped in a roller-coaster cycle of depression/euphoria/depression/euphoria? How many of these people listen to garbage sounds that induces depression, such as Marilyn Manson, Smashing Pumpkins and sh*t like that? How many of these people have the habit of watching depressive movies about masked serial killers, obsessive killers spirits, and stuffs like that?? WTF?? James Cameron's Avatar now became a "suicide trigger"??? What a BULLSH*T!!!

How can be possible people came out of Theater after watch a wonderful movie like that, with suicide motivation?? These people ALREADY is in the edge of the cliff, they can't handle their burdens and they just wanna run away, taking their own lifes. This there's nothing to do with Na'vi world "untouchable beauty".

"I wasn't depressed myself. In fact the movie made me happy ," Baghdassarian said. "But I can understand why it made people depressed. The movie was so beautiful and it showed something we don't have here on Earth. I think people saw we could be living in a completely different world and that caused them to be depressed."

A user named Mike wrote on the fan Web site "Naviblue" that he contemplated suicide after seeing the movie. "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in 'Avatar.' "

WTF, these guys, anytime in their lifes, heard about FERNANDO DE NORONHA??? AMAZON RAINFOREST??? To mention just two names, 'cos places like that are everywhere in South America, Central America and Oceania.

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Yes, we still having some "Pandoras" right here!!!

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And I assure you a lot of native tribes still living in such places, exactly as the Na'vi, despite the evil interference and predatory contact of "civilized" men.

My tip to these "post-Avatar-session-depression-suicide-crisis" people is: STOP USING DRUGS, GET A MAP AND GET TRAVEL!!!

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As idealistic as living with nature sounds, without technology, we would still be living Third World lives. Technology, like anything else, depends on the people who use them. Heck, without technology, you would not be able to see this movie, and have much more of a conscious awareness, in the first place.

If you want a utopian society, wishing for it is not going to happen. You actually have to go out and help make it possible.

The good news is that I've learned that you can control just about anything, even looks. So if people want a utopian society, all they have to do is learn how to do them and go out and actually make it possible. It's not like information is not readily available these days. Also, we are very close to breaking down the human genome, so I'd imagine things like aging and diseases will be eliminated, in the very near future.

Anyway, for now, the two biggest concerns are:

1) The invention of the hydro-electric car.

2) Build enough houses such that poor people don't have to pay for them(trees can always be regrown.) If poor people don't have to worry about houses, they can afford more on education, and that leads to less breeding.

Really, free housing are like free-energy, because you don't spend nearly as much money on energy, as opposed to the houses.

Our lives are already much better than they were 200 years ago. We just need to be a bit more pro-active and that utopian society is not too far off.

Originally posted by December_Rain
Just see and feel
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Heh all i see is some very good CGI, still not sure what all the fuss is over the film (I havent seen it myself), sure it looks top of the line since its visuals ARE top of the line, but I like at least a semblance of a good story underneath (a trait ive developed over the last 15 years), not a cobbled rehash of past cliche. As for the 'You gotta see it in 3D'... its just a gimmic to me, if i want 3D ill go outside

I mean heck... Call me Joe

Oddly im pretty sure they used to have the Books cover on that wiki page rather than a pic of jupiter... selective editing i guess. Easy enough to google the books cover, i mean heck... big friggin primitive blue feline centaurs...

That alone makes me uninterested in watching the film from a moral stand point... being innovative with CGI tech is one thing and ill give the guy credit for that, but effectively stealing your story is another.

If people are going suicidal over it, the human race really has slipped a peg. Avatars neat but light years away from being 'better' than reality, just how unperceptive or grounded are people these days that CGI can over whelm them?... Keep the neon blue world of war craft characters where they belong... in a game.

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Anyway, I think the least we could do for now, is to build trees around our houses.

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Honestly, if people are using having depression issues and thoughts of suicide from this movie, they arent living in the real world, they are trying to run away from their own lives by clinging to an idea that some perfect blue alien world where mountains float exists. these people need help

Originally posted by InertiaZero
You know, our own planet is pretty beautiful if you go outside.

In rural and wilderness ares, yes. In urban areas, no.


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To me it honestly looks like a fabricated story made to fool people into falling into some kind of domino effect regarding suicidal thoughts or the thought frame of that which our world is miserable.

A perfect tool to brainwash many into doing insane things!!

Theyll do anything these days to get into peoples heads.

how can u become suicidal watching a 3hr pocahontas remake. the only thing more retarded than that, is that it took cameran 30 min to write the script and 300 million and 7 years to make. WTF unatainium? give me a freakin break.