Dutch Butterfly Crop Circle Mystery 2010: New Footage.

If they were not human, surely, someone would have seen aliens running around? wouldn't NASA have spotted ufo's? If it was aliens trying to send us a message, then why the hell not just show themselves and say I came here to tell you this.... Why draw a picture in a field that can only be seen from the air? It doesn't make sense. I do like seeing the crop circles though, they're very creative, and beautifully crafted. It is interesting how the measurements are always precise, but that just shows good planning on the humans behalf. There was a guy in mexico, who spray paints picture in a matter of minutes, who uses very simple tools. Most of his pictures were of space, and planets and stars, sometimes of animals, so the crop circles are creative, but not uncommon. There is no message from aliens in them.

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Clarification about what's being said during the BNN broadcast.

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Originally posted by zatara
Nice posting...but why throw away the audio and replace it with
something awfull.

Peopel who can understand dutch would like to know what is said and
what is said could contain some interesting information which can be
translated for the ATS members.

My first post has a link to the BNN website where
the broadcast (Dutch) is available for viewing online.

Anyone who understands Dutch could confirm that
this BNN show provides no substantial information.

That's why I commented in the video that "subtitles are not required".

Only 2 things are made clear in this BNN video:

- The guy introduced as "Ron" supposedly "took the initiative".

- "BNN" is not involved.

"Ron" indeed is Mr."xld-sign" Delfgaauw,
who strangely refuses the opportunity
of having his name and 'hobby-site' mentioned on national TV?

Once again, no claim for fame.

Why?

This video merely (poorly) suggests the 'making of'.

- No facts/details are provided, no explanations are given.

- The design is not discussed/explained.

- The process of creation is not discussed nor shown.

- No date nor a location is mentioned.

All we have, so far, as of August 7th 2009:

- One single image posted at the xld-sign website,
as proof/evidence of them having created the Butterfly CC.
(without any external links nor reference to BNN.)

- A poor 6 minute non-presentation fabricated by BNN.

The only hard fact:

- A gigantic Human Butterfly Crop Circle.

Both the size and the design of it are rather extraordinary.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/11e83d6abc86.jpg[/atsimg]

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These are the guys that did it.
On their front page right now is a sex cropcircle done for the magazine Quest.

Here are their projects, they were all made for publicity.







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You are mis-informed.

Below you can read that Manfred Koeleman, one of xld-signs associates,
explicitly states that this was not a publicity stunt.

"Furthermore, this is absolutely not a publicity stunt.
We don't get any income and we paid all expenses out of our own pockets".

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply to post by Sol12


It says so right on their website.


Deze graancirkel, met de projectnaam Atlas, is een zeer bijzonder graankunstwerk. Atlas is de grootste graancirkel ter wereld. Doel was niet alleen de grootste graancirkel ter wereld te maken, maar ook om het beeld een boodschap uit te laten dragen waarbij de schoonheid en de kwetsbaarheid van de mens naar voren komen.


Project naam Atlas
Ontwerp XL D-Sign
Opdrachtgever XL D-Sign
Doel Promotie
Deelnemers 60
Datum 07 Augustus 2009
Lokatie Nederland, provincie Zeeland, Zuid-Beveland, Wilhelminapolder
Gewas Wintertarwe

grootte 530 x 450 meter
Bijzonderheden De grootste graancirkel ter wereld en dus ook van XL D-Sign tot dusver, met een oppervlak van bijna 25 hectare.

reply to post by locster

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I know.

In fact, what they say at their site is "promotion".

Confusing isn't it?

They make claims, retract them,
yet refuse to support their claims with evidence/proof?

It's only one of many inconsistencies in the xld-sign story.

Anyone can make empty claims.

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reply to post by Sol12


Well you could be right ofcourse. But who would benefit most from that.
I thought it was just a cheap sleazy way of attracting attention to their company

reply to post by locster


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Who would benefit most from that?

Good point.

Sometime ago, 23-8-2009, I wrote this at the other thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Sol12

Delfgaauw and his companions are business men.

They are NOT artists.

They are NOT environmental activists.

Let's say, from a business point of view and regarding PR,
this 'project' can be considered a dramatic failure.

Who is going to invest time and money
in a mega 'project' like this?

No cause, no publicity, no revenue?

They could have established their name nation-wide,
even around the world?

The DaVinci/butterfly was harvested 17th of August 2009.

Why did they let the opportunity pass by?

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that is a good point. I should read better

So what do you think? Any thoughts on motivation?

Originally posted by locster
that is a good point. I should read better

So what do you think? Any thoughts on motivation?

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No.

Frankly, It has puzzled me 6 months now
to see grown-ups behave in this most peculiar way.

It doesn't make any sense does it?

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No it doesn't!
Maybe if we crossreference all the names involved.
There must be something out there.


PS: ga eens slapen man!

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There are three guys involved with xld-sign
and they have regular business engagements
in their real lifes.

There 'boss', Delfgaauw, has recently announced
he has resigned from being a 'cropcircle artist'.

This is his real business:

beverinnovations.com...

I understand you are a kaaskoppie too ,
so you know, hardly anyone in the Netherlands
has heard about this crop circle.

Great publicity/promotion.

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i have seen it on "hart van nederland" (yes i know, i know)
And 3fm mentioned a few times too.

I am gonna see what i can turn up after some sleep

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Welterusten.

Check you later.

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Who cares if this is man made or not. In the end it looks beautiful. It inspires others to make cc's and make other farmer's angry. But this video doesn't show anything that they actually making that crop circle.

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I have created a second part to the "Dutch Butterfly Crop Circle Mystery 2010" video
which contains a compilation of aerial footage of the Butterfly CC including
the few seconds of actual "new footage" provided in the BNN video.

Dutch Butterfly Crop Circle Mystery 2010: Part 2.




A copy is available at the ATS media portal:

media.abovetopsecret.com...

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I should add to this thread
what researcher Colin Andrews had to say
about the "new footage" provided by BNN.

Mr. Andrews has in fact posted at his website
the video I uploaded here to ATS sometime ago
and according to him it is the anticipated "movie"
that would prove/show that this CC would be man-made.

He forgets to provide any details regarding this broadcast neither
does he mention that this so-called "movie" lasts only 6 minutes.

www.colinandrews.net...

At link below you can read what Colin Andrews stated sometime last year
(09-09-09) regarding the Butterfly CC including my comments to what he had to say:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Recently xld-sign has made a statement somewhere at an italian blog
that they still have allegedly planned to release their own video
and that they would release it sometime early spring.

This xld-sign statement is unconfirmed,
you will not find it posted at their website.

Hardly surprising to those familiar with this story because
xld-sign has never posted any information nor statements at their website.

All rumors relating to the details of the xld-sign claim
originate from what is posted at external blogs and forums.

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Very Cool mate!

Yet not ONE photo of this has been shown to be man made - no dewunker can dewunk this one - because they have no proof!

Originally posted by Sol12
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I have created a second part to the "Dutch Butterfly Crop Circle Mystery 2010" video
which contains a compilation of aerial footage of the Butterfly CC including
the few seconds of actual "new footage" provided in the BNN video.

Dutch Butterfly Crop Circle Mystery 2010: Part 2.

A copy is available at the ATS media portal:

media.abovetopsecret.com...

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Thanks for all of your great work on this crop formation. You have been patient, but logically relentless in the defense of it's authenticity and significance. Other than your efforts, a massive silencing campaign has been pursued against it by the TPTB. I think it made a lot of "important" people extremely nervous!

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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow

Very Cool mate!

You're welcome Zeitgeist.

Crop Circles 2009 - 2010 :

www.abovetopsecret.com...




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