Do you honestly not think this is a nude image?

I take it there are a whole lot of US that bought into the underwear bomber scam. So convenient don't you think? I could have called it.
One of these days I will. Not that it should be a shocker hell anybody could.
All that is required is to pay attention.

[edit on 8-1-2010 by randyvs]

ADMIN EDIT: images removed as they violate our no nudity policy.

how's that for confirmation lol

Originally posted by ADVISOR
reply to post by kaskade

 

Here you go, knock yourself out.

List

Most of them did not kill innocent people.

The last time I took a commercial flight was 1979. Fortunately, I have no need to fly today. I realize many have to for business reasons. The Full naked body scanners are the latest invasion of the privacy of citizens, for no good reason.

I fully believe these techno-snoops are being put in place to train society to become passive slaves to the state. The only hope is to refuse to cooperate with TPTB.

Some have said they don't mind being invaded by never ending devices to compromise our privacy. So be it, then. Big Brother has come a long way. I would encourage all who don't like these invasions to avoid flying except in the most dire of need. We need to call the airline and let them know each time we take an alternative travel option, so they can calculate their loss. Money talks. I have no illusions though that most sheeple will just do whatever Big Brother demands of them. This country is sooo screwed!

Originally posted by cushycrux

Originally posted by ADVISOR
reply to post by kaskade

 

Here you go, knock yourself out.

List

Most of them did not kill innocent people.

MOST OF THEM Were BEFORE THE 90's
lets go threw the list?

(US) 1994: FedEx Flight 705 hijacked by disgruntled employee Auburn Calloway as it left Memphis, Tennessee,

............so it was WITHIN THE COMPANY...that hi-jacked the plane...not an outsource terrorist?...whos to say these people WORKING at the airport wont do the same?... and dont say "u cant jump to conclusions" because this little invasion or privacy device is doing JUSt that

(LEBONON WITH SOME US) 1985: Lebanese Shi'a Amal hijackers divert TWA Flight 847 from Athens to Beirut with 153 people on board. The stand-off ends after Israel frees 31 Lebanese prisoners. Among the passengers was famous Greek singer Demis Roussos

(PAKISTAN, WITH SOME US ONBOARD) 1986: 22 people are killed when Pakistani security forces storm Pan Am Flight 73 at Karachi, carrying 400 passengers and crew after a 16-hour siege.

so really these are the TOP ONES WHERE ITS BEEN *PROVEN* there was "terrorists" in action...

almost all of them weren't even US INVOLVED< they had us citizens ABOARD THE PLANE, and the other one was a disgruntled employee...
haha but yes...we need this defense NOW more than EEEEEEEEVER, because this is an immediate threat.
haha god...the bull# people believe and buy into is absolutely astounding

...............................

Originally posted by Tifozi
reply to post by thoughtsfull

 

Usually those people are easy to spot, and unless something goes wrong and they can't check the truth (which can happen), they leave them alone.

And an experienced eye can detect which is which... I know I can't tell anything from anything in the luggage screen, but they can find anything.

Thanks for that.. I was just wondering if a medical appliance could mask other material underneath?? rather the just any embarrassment for those who require such appliances.

I remember I just finished a project for Air India when flight 182 went down.. it's a gutting time for everyone in the supply chain when one of the flights your working on/with gets lost this way..

Edit to add: obviously worse for the families involved...


[edit on 8/1/10 by thoughtsfull]

Some have said they don't mind being invaded by never ending devices to compromise our privacy. So be it, then. Big Brother has come a long way. I would encourage all who don't like these invasions to avoid flying except in the most dire of need. We need to call the airline and let them know each time we take an alternative travel option, so they can calculate their loss. Money talks. I have no illusions though that most sheeple will just do whatever Big Brother demands of them. This country is sooo screwed!

reply to post by romanmel



This is more than anything I believe conditioning us to bend to their will
to get us used to bending to their will. Always a little bit more erosion.
Slow precise erosion over time. Those who don't mind are fools .
If you havn't noticed it divides us to. These are the things we have to take a stand against not now, but right now.
They are weak right now and if we stand up to them they will run.
Just take a stance and nothing more. I believe it. So anbody that is going out there today. Go out and make it a great day.

[edit on 8-1-2010 by randyvs]

Originally posted by cushycrux

Originally posted by ADVISOR
reply to post by kaskade

 

Here you go, knock yourself out.

List

Most of them did not kill innocent people.

actually ALL OF THEM DIDNT (us ONLY)
and dont count 9/11 because there is so much ney sayers, and documents that point otherwise, it shouldn't even be accounted.
i asked for CONFIRMED< not speculated
(being that many of the 9/11 terrorists were still alive in there country AFTER 9/11)

Originally posted by endisnighe
Everyone agreeing to this.

A) Has not read 1984
B) Has no idea what freedom is
C) Think being implanted with a chip is a good idea
D) Should not be allowed to procreate-alright I may have gone too far
E) Have stock in these security measures
F) Should learn something about history
G) I could go on but I should just make a list of everyone that agrees and call DHS and let them know to start the CHIPPING WITH YOU!-possibly over board


God, wake up!





[edit on 1/8/2010 by endisnighe]

Agreed 100% +. It's the ever so slightly one piece at a time, erosion of privacy and rights under the guise of protection that will have everyone walking lock step sooner than anticipated.
The conditioning is paying off and obviously being revealed within statements and posts you can read right here.
The blind acceptance and justification for infringement is alarming.
The tolerance of the erosion based on fear, and nothing more than fear shows the laziness of the conditioned state of mind to have all of their responsibilities handled for them.
Theyre not people anymore, theyre units.
This level of intrusion is acceptable to them, just like the prior levels were, and there will be some that will allow ANYTHING to be done to them, so they can comply and remain acceptable to their masters, and delusional in their belief of safety.
For some the line was crossed with grandma and little children being pulled out of line, patted, wanded, bags opened and searched and packing all messed up and then being told "they" had to repack the mess, please remove your shoes, and accept this experience of being a suspect as normal, be afraid be very afraid you might be and for that matter anyone might be a terrorist.
For some there will never be a line to be crossed but for most there will be.
What will it be for them? When will it be for them?
Will it be when "all passengers must now disrobe and put on their in flight (no pockets allowed hospital type) gown?"
Or will it be "if you are planning to fly within the next 90 days you must surrender all email address' registrations and passwords for tsa review"?
Or "please submit all notorized blood screening results at your time of arrival for your pre flight breathalyzer"?
Or" your in flight wrist and ankle restraints are designed for your comfort and your flight attendant can adjust them for you?"
I see a paranoid public being led to their own enslavement one inch at a time and asking for assistance in applying the yoke and shackles.
Oh they'll act all big and bad, here, and now, because every flock has their rams vying for dominance. Yet there will come a day, mark my words, when the very ones crying for its acceptance and implementation now will find their own lines have been crossed, and they will cry foul, and they will no longer have a voice or a brother to turn to, and they will feel infringed and enslaved and they will scratch their empty heads and wonder "Why cant I go to the store without my papers? why cant I travel on the interstate to see my family without passing checkpoints, and why didnt I speak up?
One inch at a time, one subtle painless inch at a time.

I do see an opportunity here though,
An Airline that doesnt treat it passengers as terrorists, that applies safety standards, that has a well trained armed attendant, that doesnt require intrusive searches, making alot of money by treating people with dignity and respect, I'll pay the extra money.!

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter

Originally posted by endisnighe
Everyone agreeing to this.

A) Has not read 1984
B) Has no idea what freedom is
C) Think being implanted with a chip is a good idea
D) Should not be allowed to procreate-alright I may have gone too far
E) Have stock in these security measures
F) Should learn something about history
G) I could go on but I should just make a list of everyone that agrees and call DHS and let them know to start the CHIPPING WITH YOU!-possibly over board


God, wake up!





[edit on 1/8/2010 by endisnighe]

Agreed 100% +. It's the ever so slightly one piece at a time, erosion of privacy and rights under the guise of protection that will have everyone walking lock step sooner than anticipated.
The conditioning is paying off and obviously being revealed within statements and posts you can read right here.
The blind acceptance and justification for infringement is alarming.
The tolerance of the erosion based on fear, and nothing more than fear shows the laziness of the conditioned state of mind to have all of their responsibilities handled for them.
Theyre not people anymore, theyre units.
This level of intrusion is acceptable to them, just like the prior levels were, and there will be some that will allow ANYTHING to be done to them, so they can comply and remain acceptable to their masters, and delusional in their belief of safety.
For some the line was crossed with grandma and little children being pulled out of line, patted, wanded, bags opened and searched and packing all messed up and then being told "they" had to repack the mess, please remove your shoes, and accept this experience of being a suspect as normal, be afraid be very afraid you might be and for that matter anyone might be a terrorist.
For some there will never be a line to be crossed but for most there will be.
What will it be for them? When will it be for them?
Will it be when "all passengers must now disrobe and put on their in flight (no pockets allowed hospital type) gown?"
Or will it be "if you are planning to fly within the next 90 days you must surrender all email address' registrations and passwords for tsa review"?
Or "please submit all notorized blood screening results at your time of arrival for your pre flight breathalyzer"?
Or" your in flight wrist and ankle restraints are designed for your comfort and your flight attendant can adjust them for you?"
I see a paranoid public being led to their own enslavement one inch at a time and asking for assistance in applying the yoke and shackles.
Oh they'll act all big and bad, here, and now, because every flock has their rams vying for dominance. Yet there will come a day, mark my words, when the very ones crying for its acceptance and implementation now will find their own lines have been crossed, and they will cry foul, and they will no longer have a voice or a brother to turn to, and they will feel infringed and enslaved and they will scratch their empty heads and wonder "Why cant I go to the store without my papers? why cant I travel on the interstate to see my family without passing checkpoints, and why didnt I speak up?
One inch at a time, one subtle painless inch at a time.

I do see an opportunity here though,
An Airline that doesnt treat it passengers as terrorists, that applies safety standards, that has a well trained armed attendant, that doesnt require intrusive searches, making alot of money by treating people with dignity and respect, I'll pay the extra money.!

just wanted to say as well...
Im sorry who exactly is the terrorists and under investigation?...
it seems like every year more and more, the US CITIZENS are being treated just as a terrorists would...
amazing country we live in eh

reply to post by HappilyEverAfter

Should not be allowed to procreate-alright I may have gone too far

You crack me up Happily. You even come with your own arguement.

I do not have a problem with the naked body but seeing as it's my body I have the right to decide who see's it and who does not. A question, do the airport staff and security etc.. have to have a body scan as well I mean we all know terrorists get jobs in airports.

I have no problem with the machine if it can guarantee safety. However, that is a job I wouldn't want to have.

Originally posted by Stuship

I have no problem with the machine if it can guarantee safety. However, that is a job I wouldn't want to have.

They can't guarantee safety.... I hope that was /sarcasm.

reply to post by restless genius

I do not have a problem with the naked body but seeing as it's my body I have the right to decide who see's it and who does not. A question, do the airport staff and security etc.. have to have a body scan as well I mean we all know terrorists get jobs in airports

You are missing it. You don't ask questions about it. You do not consider this in anyway. You refuse. This is bigger than any of us right now because they can be defeated by one little turn around and guess what DOMINOES.

How can anybody Gaurantee safty. This is all way to much any body who
dosn't see thru this just dosn't want to see thru it.

[edit on 8-1-2010 by randyvs]

Originally posted by Stuship

I have no problem with the machine if it can guarantee safety. However, that is a job I wouldn't want to have.

Amazing. Will you be one of the first in line to get chipped? It will be all in the name of "guaranteeing your safety".

reply to post by randyvs


I mean seriously! Is it common sense or what? What was the actual time and date that common sense went la la la la la la off the cliff?

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by randyvs

 

I mean seriously! Is it common sense or what? What was the actual time and date that common sense went la la la la la la off the cliff?

probably around 50 years ago? When the tv was created and info started being forced down our throats.

I dunno, Just sucks.... Lets give all these people that want gov't control their own country... and lets take ours back and compare 10 years from now...

I bet the non gov't would thrive while the gov't would just be trying to weasle there way in to take what we have created(More terrorists attack LOL)... Thats how it works? right?

I mean we go to all these 3rd world countries and exploit resources, so why would this not happen... it would...

reply to post by HappilyEverAfter

I mean seriously! Is it common sense or what? What was the actual time and date that common sense went la la la la la la off the cliff?

God help us friend cause I just don't believe they can't see it.
Are there really this many people who are controlled because that's really all that is left for you and I to believe is that this is jumping off to become some kind of freakin zombie Sci fi flick.
You and I and those others ,"who can see" they live!

anonymous

I mean we go to all these 3rd world countries and exploit resources, so why would this not happen... it would

You have your eyes open. Careful just babie steps.

[edit on 8-1-2010 by randyvs]

Lets ask some burning bodies falling from 10,000 ft if they would of wanted to have their junk scanned before takeoff.

Lets not forget those who would do as terrorists do will use -any-advantage, including exploiting our modesty.