At the very top, less than 12 men control the world. A council of 7

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The Papacy more or less functions as the official office of Rome as a conduit to those who rule and own Rome.

It’s much like the front store of an organized crime syndicate. On the outside of the store it says Bandolini Olive Oil, on the inside of the Olive Oil Store you can talk to someone on how to get in touch with Don Corleone to have someone murdered or borrow a large sum of money at a higher than legal interest rate.

The Jesuit Black Pope has actually more power than the Vatican’s White Pope. Such people though answer to the Puppet Master behind the scene though other Masters underneath him yet above the Popes.

The Pontificus Maximus has always been Rome’s High Priest even before there was a papacy, and even before there was a Holy Roman Empire.

The Vatican which is a wholly antonymous independent city state that is not a part of Italy simply serves an office and a repository for Rome and many of the contracts Rome has with various Sovereigns and nations.

Destroying the Vatican or killing the Popes would not in fact stop Rome, though it likely would really tick Rome off.

Napoleon died a cruel and excruciating slow death of arsenic poisoning for attacking and sacking the Vatican and lets face it Napoleon had a lot more going for him in the way of an army, and being a head of a nation than you or I do my friend.

Once he was defeated and sent off to exile he was fed arsenic in small doses in all his food until it eventually claimed his life, a life that had descended from being the presumed most powerful man in Europe to dying from the inside out a slow painfully cruel death an imprisoned pauper on an isolated island in the middle of no where.

That really does say a lot, quite a bit when you think about it.

Im pretty sure the 7 most powerful people in the world are none of the people mentioned by the dude that bit the big one in the first 20 minutes of the Predator movie..man that was a letdown. All these people and bloodlines are just buisness, money etc. Its NOT REAL LIFE!!!!!!!
If any select few run the world, It would probably be the most severe and obscure human handicap on the face of the earth. Like a genetic defect of an extreme nature. Personalities that cannot be reigned in by any system yet they still migrate toward eachother and the residuals of that chemistry filter down to the rest of us and we cant control it , instead of embracing it, we manipulate it into material and physical power and control over anything that we can. But even the residuals of this whole connection with the cosmos that these few intercessory beings posess are far to pure to be completely contained forever. Simply the notion that we can even comprehend such a force is enough to cause calamity upon our species.

If you want to see who really runs this planets society..Go to the Special Olympics. If we had more people with developmental disabilities run for public office this world would be a better place. Instead we have a bunch of people who only pretend to be developmentally disabled. Why dont we have a President with a speach impediment or a blind secretary of defense?

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Elaborate please. I want to read your take while I'm eating the new skittles candy.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


this is exactly what the Nazi's did. They didn't go away, they just went underground, or blended right in to American society.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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this is exactly what the Nazi's did. They didn't go away, they just went underground, or blended right in to American society.

The Nazis were in fact closely aligned with Rome the Pope at the time never hid his admiration for Hitler and the Vatican was one of the key players along with the CIA in getting top Nazi’s secretly out of Germany after the War ended.

In many ways the Nazi’s were simply but an extension of the Holy Roman Empire and fancied themselves the 3 reincarnation of it (3rd Reich) and played in instrumental part in creating the conditions that would later cause European Jews to flood into the Jewish Colony in Palestine which before the war was barely getting 10,000 Zionists and Jews a year to trickle into.

World War I was in fact fought to reestablish Israel in Palestine and World War II was in fact fought to repopulate it and get it off the ground. Zionists and the Vatican keep some very dark secrets.

reply to post by EMPIRE
Exactly Empire! And that power is the House Of Rothschild! All roads may lead to Rome, but that path up the hill belongs to the Rothschilds!

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Rotschilds are not so important. Try to understand that! There are families who have 1000 times greater wealth than Rotschilds. Rotschilds are just bait for the naiv ones. Try to dig a little bit deeper than youtube or google..........

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Proto can you name us some real puppet masters who are really the main players?

Originally posted by DeepBlueSky
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Proto can you name us some real puppet masters who are really the main players?

I don't think anybody really know, who they really are. But at least now, we know which direction to investigate instead of wasting energy, like Roman Elites want us to, with mislead conspiracies like Icke's Lizards or religious prophecies or extraterestrial boogeymen.

Tks Proto...

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reply to post by DeepBlueSky


If anyone tells you they know, they don't know.

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Daniel Estulin gives some pretty good directions. For example "The house of Savoy" and "The house of Frescobaldi". Few people heard about those families here but Estulin speaks they have wealth like quadrilions of dollars. I searched up about them and you can find information that they are actually very old families with more than 11 centures of history.

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The truth is friends we don’t know who the puppet masters really are.

We can’t even be sure that they are all on the Council of Eight, and we can’t be sure there are not one or two above the Council of Eight.

All we know is that they would take great care to hide and shield their identities at any and all costs and would not be someone that could ever be directly connected to the events that drive the world.

We can tell who the Puppet Masters aren’t by the fact that they are visible and well known. The only way we might ever get a clue is looking at the associations of the visible top tier players for that odd random seemingly inconsequential player that pops up from time to time in every one of their radar/communication screens.

Puppet Masters are almost impossible to ferret out because their anonymity is the actual main source of their power coupled along with the best and widest array of information ever known to man.

For instance if anyone alive has read the first Bible ever written it would have been the Puppet Master. A Puppet Master’s currency is information, the kind of information that is very valuable because almost no one knows it.

The old adage of the truth will set you free demonstrates just how important information really is, without all the facts in any given situation you never will be free.

Having all the facts and then being able to horde them and manipulate them and parcel them out is what literally enslaves everyone else, the absence of knowing those things and being able to make good decisions and plot accurate courses without knowing all the facts.

The Puppet Masters would have the greatest trove of information ever assembled and know it inside out, they could even be sitting on the Library at Alexandria and other sources of information thought lost to the world.

The Puppet Masters would never be actively pursuing wealth; they would be actively pursuing knowledge. Knowledge is power and if you have power wealth as much or as little as you want will flow to you.

It’s a real mystery figuring out who the Puppet Master(s) is or are.

Figure that out, seize the bulk if not all of their treasure trove of information and you can set the world free.

The truth is what sets people free.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


I have seen it postulated that the true "major players", the real puppet master, are completely unknown. Obscure. They live quietly, some reclusively, completely out of the public eye.

They aren't on the lists of the wealthiest people because they aren't on any list. Their existence is completely glossed over by all but the few they interact with.

If you trust the writings of Manly Hall, this has gone one for a very long time. Rosicrucianism is part of it, but the mystery likely runs behind that, as well. The story of the "founder" of the Rosy Cross order is very intriguing. Regardless, you can see many examples of how you can make things happen anonymously just from observing Rosicrucian history. Francis Bacon is one such example, writing under over a dozen pseudonyms (including William Shakespeare).

Controlling people, when you have information, is easy. You just decide what you want to happen, and who you have to give what piece of information to so that it does happen.

I doubt that it is a definite number of people, and i doubt that it has anything to do with birthright. Birthright doesn't guarantee intelligence and insight (although it can have a definite effect in regards to teaching).

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Some great insights especially regarding Bacon and when you look at Hall’s singular ambition to amass the world’s greatest collection of esoteric knowledge and the fact that at one point President Roosevelt sent people from Washington D.C. to photo copy every last work on micro-fish you get a pretty good idea of just how valuable knowledge is to people in power.

Clearly Bacon had sources of knowledge and was parceling them out to Masons, Rosacutions and others.

But was someone funneling that knowledge to Bacon, and how did he obtain it?

I tend to agree birthright does not necessarily denote intelligence or its common sense or more devious applications.

It’s one of the reasons the Powers that Be are constantly looking for people of extraordinary intelligence to liaison with. Money no matter how much money respects knowledge, intelligence and wisdom regardless of where it came from or how it developed. It’s either applicable or not. If it’s applicable it has great power.

In all honesty one could argue Bacon is the father of the United States of America and his New Atlantis concept, but was New Atlantis just another way of saying the Roman Empire?

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

In all honesty one could argue Bacon is the father of the United States of America and his New Atlantis concept, but was New Atlantis just another way of saying the Roman Empire?

Now that is an excellent question. I haven't quite figured it out, to be honest. Deciding if the rites of passage within the mysteries would preclude character flaws that would cause people to act in a nefarious manner is a major piece for me.

If the enlightened truly figured out how to make the philosophers stone, then perhaps they became capable of transcending age (as Hall alludes to)? Could this mean that Bacon survived longer, possibly being the mysterious man referred to in the legend about the night the Declaration of Independance was signed?

The whole story is amazing to me. Something I ponder quite a bit. "The New Atlantis" was an outstanding book. I have wondered if it was a metaphor for a NWO, given the info in the Branton files. I have also wondered if it referred to much, much more esoteric ideas, as well. The brevity of the manuscript always seemed strange.

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ProtoplasmicTraveler, When will end, those years of tribulation we're leaving in, until the beginning of the new world order period and the One World Roman Empire. When..? do you think peace will be back, for those (+-20%) who will survive world chaos.


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I doubt there will ever be peace on this earth without strict controll. This NWO would not be a bad thing if those on the top would think a little bit different and controll the humanity in the positive way which would be the contrary of present self destructing system.

[edit on 31-1-2010 by DeepBlueSky]

Originally posted by openmindresearch
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ProtoplasmicTraveler, When will end, those years of tribulation we're leaving in, until the beginning of the new world order period and the One World Roman Empire. When..? do you think peace will be back, for those (+-20%) who will survive world chaos.


[edit on 31-1-2010 by openmindresearch]

The world as far as recorded history has never had or known peace my friend.

It really is a process of evolution a slow and tedious one. Order through chaos and trial by fire, trial and error is all the maxims of the day where humankind has always seem to be concerned.

I suspect when you as a soul are actually ready for peace, have actually learned, and learned to master yourself that there is some other planet, realm or dimension where you will enjoy these things.

The Earth is presently a long, long way off.

I would say at this current rate of progress humans might know peace in about a thousand more years if some excess or accident doesn’t just knock them back to square one.

Remember the battle without mirrors the battle within. All the fear and anger you are seeing in the world is all the fear and anger you actually have in yourself. When you combine your fear and anger with everyone else’s then you get one big fearful and angry planet.

The souls that are here for the most part are geared to fear and anger, jealousy, vanity, possessiveness and need to control and dominate. Or conversely be the object of scorn, and to be possessed, and be controlled and submit.

It’s not going to disappear under the next external control system because the external control system is simply and extension of people’s own internal control system.

What you want to do is look for ways yourself to evolve, to find peace, tranquility, solace and wisdom, and to learn to love people despite the frequent folly of their ways. Yet to love them in wise and disciplined ways that don’t contribute to their follies or your own.

Wanting something and being prepared to discipline and dedicating yourself to get it and achieve it are very too different things my friend, and people often confuse what they want with what they need.

That is after all while the world is such a war torn and chaotic place.

You see the challenge is not the world’s the challenge is yours, as the world is simply but an extension of you.

It’s why they say in the song Hotel California by the Eagles… “You can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave”.

You can’t leave until you leave all the baggage behind; simply looking for that perfect world to fit into is not the same as achieving the perfect state within yourself.

The challenge is achieving that perfect harmonious state within yourself, and then in the flash of an eye it all clicks over but be forewarned…chances are you will at that point neither want to check out or leave.

I love it here myself. Pizza strip clubs and chemicals! Yeah that’s what I am talking about!

I do realize that most of the rest of the world is having a really hard time though!

Originally posted by DeepBlueSky
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I doubt there will ever be peace on this earth without strict controll. This NWO would not be a bad thing if those on the top would think a little bit different and controll the humanity in the positive way which would be the contrary of present self destructing system.

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It is impossible to control people my friend. People have free will.

All that you can do to get close is to control people’s environment and that’s what the powers that be do.

They control what you read, what you hear, what you see, and to a certain extent through that what you then think and do.

Yet the truth is that those who don’t want to be so deluded and so misled aren’t.

Most people are in fact lazy and lack any real self discipline and control. Getting up and going to work everyday from nine to five, and paying your bills on time is not really self discipline and control. Not when you argue with your wife and kids, drink and gamble to excess, chase every pretty skirt that comes along, and will sell out your best friend or abandon one for a plug nickel.

Most people take the path of least resistance in life. That’s the path that the powers that be lay out for them. Yet the powers that be also have a challenge because that path of least resistance includes excessive breeding and excessive consumption. Remember most people lack common sense and discipline, and even though they are not supposed to do half the things that they do, and that half the things that they do are bad for them anyway that’s just what they will do.

That’s why half of society is overweight, underemployed, self indulgent and self destructive. That’s actually on them not the powers that be.

All the Powers that Be do is trick people into hastening their own demise and one another’s in a somewhat desperate bid to keep humanity from becoming an out of control parasite that will destroy the host body of the planet.

Yet despite the fact that the Powers that Be aren’t interested in trying to teach people the hard task of self control and self discipline and higher knowledge and learning doesn’t mean that their aren’t people who don’t master themselves of their own volition.

The Powers that Be in many ways are simply an extension of ours selves because the reality is if people refused to fight in wars how the heck could they have any? If people refused to follow or obey unjust governments how the heck could there be a government? If people refused to believe in invisible deities then how the heck could people be manipulated by the people who profess to speak for them?

As Clint Eastwood would say “A man’s got to know his own limitations”. The Powers that Be simply know our own collective limitations and do their best to keep that destructive force channeled into something that at least makes earthly sense to them. Does it make sense to us? No, is it what we want? No, but do we really care beyond just complaining about it?

Will we look for ways to master ourselves and help others to do the same or will we just look for ways to escape our reality through wine, women and song?

You can’t control people you can control their environment and create a corral for them to run around in, a path of least resistance where they can’t blindly trample all over everything.

It’s just a nice way of saying PRISON though.

People have freewill and nothing can take that away from you, sadly most people refuse to be responsible for theirs or fail to see how if they are truly responsible for theirs it can make a world of difference.

The Powers that Be are as much the Powers that Be because people have abdicated their own personal responsibility as it has been robbed from them.

Look for the inner truth and it shall set you free, and there is nothing more precious in all the universe than freedom.


[edit on 31/1/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

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Proto can you give us some information about that chemtrails project? I heard many opinions about that topic but non of them was a logical explanation for what PTB use them? What is the chemtrails project all about?

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