Royal Raymond Rife - Cutting Edge Cures or Quackery?

Originally posted by dragonsmusic
I can understand why he died a broken man.
The AMA , since its inception, has religiously persecuted all forms of pathogen treatment which do not make huge amounts of money and/or keep the patient dependent upon the treatment.
So f&#$ing sad, really.
Nice thread.

Which is why the AMA funds large-scale, national projects in disease prevention, cleanliness, and early detection, right?

reply to post by alpha68


You keep talking about your "work" and your "collaborations" in several threads. I'd love to see any papers you've produced. If you're truly a PhD, you would have been required to produce at least a small handful of publications, not to mention your thesis.

Something to add,
Rife's machine was made illegal here in the US, now if it was such quackery why would tptb do that, what are they afraid of. I read a book on his machine and he actually watched the virus's and germs under the microscope (he developed his own microscope because he found the electron microscope was killing all of his samples )and watched how they reacted to the radio waves and frequency's and was able to kill them. The radio waves and frequency's he was using did not harm our normal cells, just the bad one's.
It was rumoured that the ama at the time were the one's that that were doing the threatening and killing along with the distruction of his lab. There would be no need for doctor's and all these medications that have more bad side effects than the one they are trying to "cure or treat", just listen to all the drug commercials, people with dvr's pause the commercial and read the fine print. With all the side effects of these drugs, then they can feed you another drug to treat those symtoms. So now who's the quack.

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So, what you're saying is...you HAVE no credentials, not thesis, and no PhD, then?

You know it's against the site's rules to misrepresent yourself, right?

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Alpha68.....

VneZonyDostupa is correct.....if you are lying about your credentials, you will not end up in a positive place, either on ATS or externally.

In view of the sensitive nature of such medical discussions, I think you should confirm your credentials formally with ATS before you make any further commentary.

That way, we can put your existing & future commentary in context.

I also observe that your language & sentence structure appears at odds with your purported very high level of education & qualification.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


[edit on 1-6-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

reply to post by alpha68


Everything I have posted on these boards is supported by peer-reviewed, well-researched data. Additionally, I'm able to express these thoughts in language befitting my education. Your inability to produce ANY data, as well as your inability to string more than two words together properly, tells me either you are lying about your credentials as a "virologist", or you're just ignorant. In several threads now, you've made huge, sweeping claims, and when asked to prove them, you simply refer to "secret data" that would "blow our minds". Well, that just doesn't cut it. Put up, or shut up.

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VneZonyDostupa.....

alphamyIQis68 reminds me of this guy:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Oh, gosh...there are more of them on ATS?

Click here for more information.

reply to post by alpha68


And yet, you provide further evidence that you are not at all who you say you are. You've provided no evidence for any claims you've made, you cannot provide even the most basic information about your credentials, and when questioned, you resort to swearing and name-calling.

How puerile.

Originally posted by alpha68
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

Edit by Maybe...maybe not to remove offensive post by alpha68

Alpha68.....

Your communications continue to be:

- Extremely rude & offensive

- At great variance with your claims that you are a specialist medical doctor

In view of the sensitive nature of such medical discussions, I still think we should put your commentary in context. Therefore I ask again that you validate your claims to be a specialist medical doctor. Otherwise, it is extremely difficult to continue our discussion in a constructive manner.

Regards
Maybe...maybe not



[edit on 3-6-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Enough. We do not allow personal attacks against other members.

Before proceeding, take a moment to review the following link:

Courtesy is Mandatory.

Any further rudeness or disruption will result in a suspension of posting privileges.

Back on topic. Thank you.

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You do not allow personal attacks here you say ?
lol...give me a break.

What do you think sparked my response in the first place "KIND COMPLEMENTS" ?

Sign off with "BEST REGARDS" and come back all Holier than thou after the fact that you have been "BURNED" and you can simply attack & insult anyone any which way you see fit and look mighty good doing it to,
"i might add" is the way i see it.

Please remove those posts directed at me that obviously appeared out of nowhere on this thread and are clearly off-topic such as the gem below for starters and then please remove this.



reply to post by VneZonyDostupa from "MAYBE...MAYBE NOT"
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VneZonyDostupa.....

alphamyIQis68 reminds me of this guy:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 5-6-2010 by alpha68]

before I call it quits here I'm going to post a few things regarding Dr. Rife and speak some on the research my group does and hopefully answer some questions before they are even presented.

(First take a look at the link below)
www.livescience.com...

Did you see any mention of Dr. Royal Rife in that little gem even once???
I most certainly didn't ! Hmmm...I wonder why? This is such a new science? LOL!!! HONESTLY!!!


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You and "Maybe...maybe not" both have some sense of humour, but with different approaches...

His insinuation that your IQ value is 68 by calling you "alphamyIQis68" was inconsiderate.

Some selective modding happened here, because that could be viewed by some as baiting to increase the bickering or a troll attempt...

But what do you mean by "before I call it quits here"?

Are you going to leave ATS?

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Nice find.

some things never change, do they?.?.?.?.

Here is the link for the study abstract without subscription.

Physical Review Letters is an American Physical Society peer reviewed journal.

Low Frequency Mechanical Modes of Viral Capsids: An Atomistic Approach

For the benefit of ATS community to read the study, here is uploaded to media portal.

fulltext pdf for those without subscription

[edit on 18-6-2010 by jjjtir]

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To finish, I want to give background I collected about this study.

-It has been cited 14 times by newer literature published after it(it got some attention).

-It also has been cited in a patent application.

Look at the patent application citing the referenced study.

Free pdf available with all page images.

Selective Inactivation Of Microorganisms With A Femtosecond Laser

A method is provided for selectively inactivating microorganisms with femtosecond pulsed lasers. Under proper laser conditions, irradiation of the femtosecond pulsed laser causes inactivation of pathogenic microorganisms, for example, viruses, bacteria and protozoa, without causing cytotoxicity in mammalian cells. Pathogenic microorganism activity is diminished through an impulsive stimulated Raman scattering process, that is, through the excitation of the low-energy vibrational state on the outer structure of a microorganism with femtosecond pulsed lasers. The wavelength of the laser pulses is in a range of the electromagnetic spectrum, for example, visible and near-infrared where water is substantially transparent. The method is utilized for cleansing blood components, disinfecting drinking water, treating viral and bacterial diseases, extracting nucleic acid from microorganisms, and for manufacturing vaccines.

Tested on the following pathogens(few viruses and 2 bacteria)

-M13 bacteriophage
-tobacco mosaic virus (TMV)
-human papillomavirus (HPV)
-human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)
-escherichia coli
-salmonella typhimurium

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Alpha68, now that you gave 1 piece of the puzzle, it has already allowed new information and knowledge.

New puzzle pieces forthcoming?

The discussion now has got interesting(to me at least).

Errrrr......... it was not the final post.... this would be for now, I hope.

Look, alpha68 was pretty accurate in that Rife is omitted from all those scientific works, while frequency/acoustic/vibration concepts are being corroborated by state of the art technology.

The patent authors were featured in at least 3 news articles published in 2007, where their technology for killing pathogens was discussed.

Wired - Superfast Laser Turns Virus Into Rubble

Technovelgy - Forced Resonance Ultra-Short Pulse Laser Kills Viruses Dead

Live Science - Laser Zaps Viruses

A recent peer reviewed study published in 2009 by the patent authors and a few more, again demonstrating killing and/or inactivation of viruses.

Photonic approach to the selective inactivation of viruses with a near-infrared subpicosecond fiber laser

published in a SPIE journal, Journal of Biomedical Optics, Volume 14, Issue 6, 064042 (2009)

See this company, it manufactures some of the technology used in those studies, it has military connections...

Raydiance

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Maybe...maybe not, you can actually be involved/tangled somehow in all this web of scientific published data, going by some of your posts......

The company above has ablation tech for example(you mentioned this tech in a post of yours as a technique among those not being "suppressed" in cancer research).

I merely scratched the surface...

[edit on 18-6-2010 by jjjtir]

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Greetings,
"Yes" I am soon leaving ATS.

Some people believe that all science is shared and that is simply just not true in the very least due to a number of reasons.

My research groups knowledge on Dr. Rife and the science that he single handedly invented is second to none in the world due to nothing more than an absolute streak of "dumb luck" that was had by the head researcher of my group who also happens to be my best friend and has been since my second year of college.

We possess not only what would be considered the Rife Rossetta Stone, but also the "RIFE HOLY GRAIL" as well. LOL!!!

The Rife microscope known as the "RIFE UNIVERSAL 3" is as advertised and always has been ! Those who you who have never seen it you really need to take a look. (see link) www.rife.de...

Due to restrictions of what was know as "ABBES LAW" and the limits it put upon opptical/light microscopes since 1873 being broken the doubting Thomas and critics of Dr. Rife's genius still continue to roll on.
(see link)
www.physorg.com...

The closest thing Dr. Rifes Universal 3 is made by Grayfield Opictal who are in my opinion without competition thanks to a gentleman who many years ago had the chance to speak with Dr. Rife that goes by the name of KURT OBLRICH. He is the only person that I would ever even come close to trusting make repairs on a Rife instrument.




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