You all dont exist.

I don't know why you found it necessary to inform non-entities of their non-existence that are a figment of your imagination. Might as well have told that to a brick wall.

Well, thank you for breaking the news to us.

Sincerely,

the tungsten filament of your light bulb

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you go to work after the dream? I think something like that when in the toilet...you now that i can get all the women i need and when i want . Onother thing i want to ask is if you need all the people here thinking you are dumb?

Originally posted by hautmess
Sorry to break it to you but everyone is a figment of my imagination. I been feeling this strange but familiar feeling as of recent and its not a lonely feeling but i just am realizing the view i have all of existence. How much control i have. I am the one. As much as i'd love to believe that everyone exists the more i feel and think about it the more i'm convinced that there is only me and this is just a big game for myself.. its very enlightening and uplifting. The more i focus on every second and the time between them the longer they get and the faster they go by. This sentence is a miracle itself. Everything exists just so i can exist and the beauty within it all is that i decide the future I'm going to be in. My thoughts alone can make or break this whole reality and for now i choose to play with it all some more. I'm not afraid of anything for everything is me. I could fill this message with advice but for what? That would only detach me from my moments which are all moments.

Ok so you Mr Anderson? dont think so he is the one iv seen it in T.V

so why are you imagining me naked in front of my computer eating nachos?
you a perv or something?

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Great post! All the joy in the world to you man. Hope all your dreams come true, and look forward to hearing more from you.

Dude, why are you posting threads and sharing ideas with people that don't exist. or are you talking to yourself? If so, does that make me you?

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Sorry to break it to YOU. YOU are a figment of MY imagination. And you feel what you feel and think what you think, and that's because I imagined you to do that. Yeah, I'm a bastidge like that. Fun ain't it, to be me?

Just kidding. Actually my sister thought up me, and then gave me these incredible powers.

On a serious, sort of note. It was all so serious to me when I was a little tyke. My sisters, all three of them were older than me. They used to tell me I was adopted. It obviously caused me much distress and so they continued to tease me about this. So one day, my little mind decided, hey, what if the entire universe was created the moment I was born, just for ME?!! And so I spun a story for them about how I was the original person on Earth, and they were just created by me, with fake memories, etc., purely to amuse me and anything bad that happened to them, I created it to punish them just because I thought it was so funny for them to suffer.

By the way, the teasing about me being adopted stopped soon afterwards. Go figure.

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Hold up! You just created an imaginary thread with imaginary words on an imaginary computer to imaginary people? No disrespect, but Honey, we need to talk. U2U me if you want.

Originally posted by andy1033
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We get this post about once a month. The same topic comes up now and again.

LOL

Does the ventriloquist want to dine every night with only his dummy?

Knee of Listening (1973, 1978, 1984 ed.)

Foreword

by Alan Watts:

Although I do not know Franklin Jones [now Adi Da] personally, what he says, and says very well, is something that I have been trying to express for thirty-five years, but which most people seem quite reluctant to understands if it were too good to be true. The point, with which Krishnamurti and the ancient Chinese Zen masters also agree, is that there is no progressive method by which the liberated and awakened state (moksha) can be attained. This state of being and consciousness has innumerable names, mystical experience, enlightenment, self-realization, cosmic consciousness, union with God, not to mention Sanskrit, Chinese, and Arabic equivalents but none of them are satisfactory because it is altogether beyond words. Striving after this state blocks the understanding that it is already present, as does also a kind of purposive not-striving.

There are, for example, those who try to live completely in the present, the Eternal Now, by attempting to be fully concentrated on what is at this moment as in the Theravada Buddhist satipatthana discipline or Gurdjieff's "self remembering." I am not quarreling with this. Franklin Jones also tried many methods. But all along it should have been obvious that all consciousness, all experience, is of nothing else than the eternal present. Memories of the past and anticipation's of the future exist only now, and thus to try to live completely in the present is to strive for what is already the case. This should be clear to anyone. The same principle applies to striving for nirvana or union with God by means of so-called spiritual exercises. There is no actual necessity for a road or obstacle course to that which IS.

But there are two main reasons for the persistent attachment to spiritual methods. The first is that, being ignorant of what we have and are now, we look for it in the future, and therefore can be beguiled by all those gurus who pick our pockets and sell us our own wallets. They promise marvelous states of consciousness, ecstasies, psychic powers, and transportation to other levels of being. So what? If you were managing the entire universe which in one sense you are it would be absolutely necessary for it to appear that a lot of things were out of control. Does the ventriloquist want to dine every night with only his dummy?

The second is the beguilement of spiritual pride, which is also the same thing as a sense of guilt. "I am not worthy to attain this exalted state unless I have suffered, unless the teacher has beaten me, unless I have sat in a cold, dark cave for three years, or practiced zazen with my legs aching for hours." Anyone silly enough to think this way deserves all the pains he must endure. Nothing is more ostentatious than deliberate humility, nor more egocentric than projects to get rid of egotism. These are strong words, but not uttered in a spirit of condemnation, for those who undertake such projects may, by so doing, realize very clearly that they are futile. But then they may return as gurus thinking that this is the only way to realize the futility of spiritual ambition, and then "lay their trip" upon others without asking themselves, "Is this trip really necessary?"

As I read Franklin Jones especially the Epilogue, which is worth the price of the book he has simply realized that he himself as he is, like a star, like a dolphin, like an iris, is a perfect and authentic manifestation of the eternal energy of the universe, and thus is no longer disposed to be in conflict with himself. Dangerous wisdom and yet fire, electricity, and technical knowledge are also dangerous. But if you genuinely know this, it is nothing to be proud of nor humble about. It is just what is so, and there is absolutely no necessity to parade it by defying social conventions, on the one hand, or by coming on as one who is extremely holy, on the other. The hapless Rasputin was, perhaps, an example of the first case, and Meher Baba of the second though he had a jolly face and a lively twinkle in the eye.

It should be understood that none of this is to say that one should not practice yoga or any other type of meditation. I myself use some of these disciplines, not to attain anything in terms of spiritual rank, but simply to enjoy them, as if I were playing a musical instrument or preparing a Chinese dinner.

Now to say what Franklin Jones is trying to say is like drawing an asymptotic curve a curve which is always getting nearer and nearer to a straight line, but only touches it at infinity. Perhaps it could be said that his curve is approaching it a little faster than some others, knowing, however, that there is no hurry. Beyond words, in the silencing of thought, we are already there.

Rancho Saucelito, California.

April, 1973

Knee of Listening

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Heh, the rantings of a deluded narcissist?

If you find yourself attracted to a girl do you see yourself?

Does that make you gay?

Huh? ...


You're just imagining things silly...

Originally posted by hautmess
Thankyou , i knew there was some intelligent responses on the way.

PS: thsi post was more just a vent of conciseness without any direct message, i felt the urge to flow with language in this forum to create discussion and to gain some attention

, i didnt think of the post before typing i just started typing it. so be it as it may..

i'm flattered someone created the dumbass account just to play with me!

I did not create my account to play with you. I just created "dumbass" to hide behind a concept I can and will project on 6-7 billion other dumbasses.

Sweeeeet!

I'm a figment of your imagination.

Excellent.

I'll forward my monthly mortgage payment on to you then...

OJK, I don't exist and you do.

So - what will you do the save the world?

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And why exactly is solisism not a potentally valid viewpoint?


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I'm sorry, you sent out this notice to us because we don't exist? Then how did I receive it and why would you bother?

Well you 're going to have to convince me.
Surely there must be some way of you proving this.

I know shoot yourself in the head and if the rest of us disappear,
then you were right.

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It is true, there is no real seperate-ness. all is in fact yourself.

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Excellent, you've just discovered Solipsism; look it up.

It's sort of a dangerous mindset and philosophy to fall into for two reasons.

1. It cannot be refuted as the perciever has no proof for the sentient existence of the other living things around it. It's impossible to know if anyone else is actually a thinking being or if they just appear that way because your imagination created them to appear that way.

2. It can lead to delusions

However if you can interlace some concepts of quantum physics and other ideas of philosophy you can get a better scope of what I believe is a more realistic idea of how reality might actually be. Every individual is essentially living in their own reality, parallel to the realities of everyone around them. These subjective realities each hold true to the idea of Solipsism, in that the perciever is the only person existing within it. However, every being you interact with does exist as a thinking being, but only within their own subjective reality, wherein they are the only being that exists. Their actions influence events in other subjective realities though. Say one is the creator of the computer, in their subjective reality they are the creator of the computer. Because they have created it and other persons subjective realities also contain a version of this person (not the true thinking being that this person is in his own subjective reality however) the computer is created in their own realities. Everyone around you is a real person, you're just never experiencing the true them that they experience as that person. Think of it as billions of lines running parallel, these are the subjective realities of thinking beings. Their actions are like off shoots, spreading into other persons realities. You can be effected and effect their realities.

As for the persons saying they are worried about you and that you need help. They are not really into philosophy. Solipsism is entry level philosophy. It seems like a psychological disorder to those who do not understand it, but it's actually logical to the point of being irrefutable

Originally posted by hautmess
Sorry to break it to you but everyone is a figment of my imagination. I been feeling this strange but familiar feeling as of recent and its not a lonely feeling but i just am realizing the view i have all of existence. How much control i have. I am the one. As much as i'd love to believe that everyone exists the more i feel and think about it the more i'm convinced that there is only me and this is just a big game for myself.. its very enlightening and uplifting. The more i focus on every second and the time between them the longer they get and the faster they go by. This sentence is a miracle itself. Everything exists just so i can exist and the beauty within it all is that i decide the future I'm going to be in. My thoughts alone can make or break this whole reality and for now i choose to play with it all some more. I'm not afraid of anything for everything is me. I could fill this message with advice but for what? That would only detach me from my moments which are all moments.

ummm, not too bad 'self hyphosis script'
me too
ahahahaha