Depressing Christmas for us soldiers

reply to post by Ulala


Thats what im talking about, this is exactly why I do what I do. We are doing this not for the Iraqi people but for those who are seeking a profit and I refuse to be a part of it anymore. I dont know if your great uncle ever had a situation like this, but the people of the world need to know the truth. They need to know without censorship. I think you said it several posts before how the U.S makes wars or something like that. If I have to look like the enemy to prove that point then it is still worth it is it not?

reply to post by Stop-loss!


You joining the Army was a decision made by an innocent youth. You joined for what you thought were all the right reasons. No-one should condemn you, myself included, and for that I apologise.

But from innocence comes experience and that's where you find yourself now.

Speaking personally, it'd be more prudent to worry about number one first and cut the world loose for a while ; you're only a few months from discharge and it'd be a terrible shame to see you get into trouble for expressing your opinion. You've also got a whole lot of adjustment in front of you, from military to civilian life. The nation you return to is not the one you left so many years ago.

Now knowing where you're coming from, may I extend to you the hand of friendship.

May God guide, comfort & protect you and bring you home safely.

reply to post by Ulala


Thank you Ulala for helping me see the light. You were right about the terrible things I did when I was young. As for the posts I guess I can give ATS a rest until the new year but chill more on the military complex issues. Also im sorry if some of my earlier posts seemed rude or just plain ignorant, sometimes I just get caught up in the moment. See you again soon as friends.

I will now be logging off from ATS but will be back on new years eve after I begin to ponder what the future may hold for me. Thanks to everyone here on ATS for all the replies and may you all have a Happy new year, Peace.

reply to post by Stop-loss!
Hi, Stop-Loss:

Every person I have heard (in person) who has raised a voice against the government or the war has known ultimately that you the soldiers are not to blame.

We all know at this point that we didn't choose any of this.

Please know that you are thought of, loved, supported through prayer, different charities, and other grassroots (that's the American people,not the talking heads) movements to try and help your families here, and to help you keep in touch with everyone.

It really breaks my heart. Pressure is definitely on President Obama to follow through and bring this Iraq engagement to a close, and a new Iraq allowed to become its own, at last.

The US, UN, Britain, and so many others involved would be better friends and brothers than warriors of Iraq. When will we be able to shine again, and do what we really do best - spread democracy, hope, and the determination to be free and fair?
May God continue to keep you, soldier. *Salute*

Originally posted by Stop-loss!
I will now be logging off from ATS but will be back on new years eve after I begin to ponder what the future may hold for me. Thanks to everyone here on ATS for all the replies and may you all have a Happy new year, Peace.

Your future holds your terrorist ties. Or a mental hospital.

Come to think of it. Mental patients in hospitals have access to computers.

Originally posted by Katie

Your future holds your terrorist ties. Or a mental hospital.

Come to think of it. Mental patients in hospitals have access to computers.



You have no right to judge someone else. That's your opinion about this soldier so keep it to yourself. You are ignorant and arrogant. He joined for a cause that he thought was right. Then by actually experiencing what's really going on and learning more he realized it's wrong. And it is! We are now fighting for a corporate Army. It's turned more into

a Corporate Job then a military job. There is no discipline within the army anymore. Don't believe me? You should join and see for yourself. To many soldiers yelling and talking in formation, drunk in formation, disrespecting and fighting with NCO's. This Army is pathetic.

It's based more to punish soldiers than to benefit them, and so many soldiers are realizing that there are better opportunities out there to than to deal with be treated like crap everyday. We are human beings not machines.

I realize now anything on t.v. and commercials are false. More soldiers realize this nobody speaks up to officers though. There are so many soldiers getting out each year and new ones coming in just to turn right around and get out.

Maybe you should grow up, and not only that, join and see how it really is. Get that experience. Just a thought.

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reply to post by Stop-loss!


Maybe you could cry some more...

I've spent more Christmases deployed and in country over the last ten years than I have at home. Grow some nuts. No one forced you to sign the contract. We're volunteers.

I don't mean to sound hateful, or testy, but I'm just pretty much over soldiers and sailors who sign the line and then whine when they have to do their jobs. As a career man, with ten years under my belt, and after missing the birth of my first kid, holidays are just another day and as much as I love my family, I've made my choices...and so did you.

Cry more. All I can say.

reply to post by Cotechs


Its ok Cotex, I forgive you. However if youve seen what ive seen and how its been done, you too would judge why we are still here and how will it get better after years of being here.

Has anyone verified this clown's IP addres yet?

If he is a real soldier in Iraq he needs to be reported to his commanders for PhsychiatrIc counseling before he goes on a shooting spree against his own troops.

If he is NOT in Iraq he needs to be banned and this entire thread labled a [HAOX].
This has gone on long enough!

reply to post by joey_hv


you're reply seems very ignorant, so I will let it slide. however I am no threat to my fellow troops. Let me do my time here and ill be gone in no time.

reply to post by Stop-loss!


chin up geezer, it aint forever...we hope

reply to post by k0mbination


Nothing ever lasts forever,however time seems to get very slow and thats when boredoom sets in.

reply to post by Stop-loss!


I HAVE been there, and I know EXACTLY how things are done. I'm not commenting on the situation, I'm commenting and your lack of spherical fortitude about being away for the holidays. Section 8, come home, then enjoy some snow!

reply to post by Cotechs


Theres more to it then just being away from family. You see im stop-lossed and I was a few months away from getting out of the army. I didnt mind being away from my family much in my last deployment because I was still doing my time till the contract was over. Now this happens without a choice im back again so unless the same situation has happened to you then say it to someone who cares.

So, what you're essentially saying is that you signed a contract that bound to an organization that clearly defines the possibilities of stop-loss, and yet are angsty because...you got stop-lossed?

reply to post by Stop-loss!
You know, I have to admit... though I understand that it must be frustrating that you are prevented from ending your run in the military, the very fact that it was and is a possibility that such a thing could occur, was known. Of course, people always think it won't happen to them and when it does, they're pissed. Understood. However, I don't think it serves a purpose to continuously be pissed about it. It happened. Time to move on. *shrugs*

My cousin's "hubby" was a short term away from Retiring (I *think* he was at 20 yrs. Navy) when Persian Gulf War broke out. He didn't get the opportunity to retire for a very long time, compared to what his plan was. Not by his choice, he was prevented by the Navy. It happens. You're not the only one and you won't be the last.






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reply to post by Cotechs


It probably wouldnt of been that bad if we really were fighting a real war but since you have been here before then you know that this war is nothing more then to make fat profits. If I were really fighting for people back home then I wouldnt have this kind of attitude, but the fact that we are doing this for corporations profits I just dont want to sacrifice anymore of my time to them which makes me feel even worse then the actually christmas event.

reply to post by LadySkadi


Its not that im angry about the stop-loss, it just makes me depressed that im fighting for the corporations and not for peoples freedom. What this means is that my whole military career in which I though was doing the right thing was nothing more then a tool for those with power and hidden agendas. I hope you understand what im trying to say and thanks for the reply friend.

reply to post by Stop-loss!
Chin up - you will be out soon enough. Stay busy. There are a lot of reasons to be frustrated, but there have got to be a few reasons that are good. Find one, even if it's just one, per day.


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