'Lost:' Season Six Discussion...

No, I doubt Sayid killed Desmond... He kills out of defense usually, not in cold blood. (although, with the dark side in him...) Still, I don't think he did. Claire seems to also have a lot more control now, so the "sickness" seems somewhat limited....

Widmore doesn't play, does he? Seems he'd likely be aware that MIB wouldn't be killed in such a way though, so my guess is he wants to soften up his army...

It was nice to see Sun and Jinn reunited. I wonder why Widmore has the Losties at gunpoint....??? Seems they'd be much easier to manipulate with kindness...(especially as they obviously left MIB... My only guess is that he suspects MIB sent them...Still, he had a deal with Sawyer though...pretty bad form to break it, from what we know of him.

Not a whole lot of progression on the story though, in this episode...other than a little more interweaving of the timelines...

I still think Jack is THE candidate...(and endgame choice, for Jacob's replacement).

So, betting pool on who will die soon?

My bets are on: Claire (so Kate can get Aaron) and Sayid, Desmond (too much talk of sacrifice around him), Ben (though in a redeeming way), the Asian guy who talks to ghosts, the Pilot, and pretty much any other non-named person with either MIB or Widmore (including the Geologist chick turned Rambette)....

Can someone refresh my memory on how Jack and Claire found out they were related? I remember finding this out in a past flashback, but I fail to recall those two characters actually knowing about it.

reply to post by MrAndy


"There's no place like home" Part I. Season 4, 12th episode. When the Oceanic 6 are rescued, return home. Claire's mom tells Jack after Christian's service.

Haven't read any of this thread lately and am just watching this week's episode now.

I'll post thoughts soon.

Originally posted by Gazrok
I wonder why Widmore has the Losties at gunpoint....???

I thought they were all going to die right then and there. I wish I didn't know that spoilerly episode title!

So, betting pool on who will die soon?

I think that every major character will die in one of the two timelines.

Also, about Jack, I now believe that he is only with MIB right now so that he can deny him directly. (I am thinking in terms of Christianity here.) Jack, up to the second to last most recent episode, has only heard about MIB. Sure he could resist him on this basis alone, but it would be more fitting for Jack to observe MIB's evilness, and then resist him. Just like Jesus was unsuccessfully tempted by Satan, so too will Jack by MIB. This will make Jack all the more hero/Jacob-like. Plus, this will divide the two in time for the Jacob/MIB episode, "Across The Sea."

This is my theory for the next episode. Anyone have another?

It's official, 'Lost' has finished filming (exactly six years from the filming of the Pilot)! This is so sad, too!

Anyone here live in California? If so, you may want to check out the LOST LIVE: The Final Celebration:

Oscar® winning composer Michael Giacchino will conduct a live orchestral performance, featuring the iconic music of “Lost,” at UCLA’s Royce Hall on Thursday, May 13, to celebrate the upcoming series finale. The concert will also feature appearances by LOST cast members, including Nestor Carbonell, Michael Emerson, and Jorge Garcia. In addition, a special preview of the penultimate episode will be screened immediately after the concert.

Also, for those living in the Hollywood area, there is a weekend fan party that you could attend.

Are you all planing a finale party? Let Lostpedia help you!

[edit on 26-4-2010 by they see ALL]

Heartbroken that there is no new episode this week.

Ack! I'm glad you told me about that....

Are you all planing a finale party?

Heck yeah!

Originally posted by they see ALL
Episode 6.14
Title: "The Candidate."
Centric: Jack.
Airing: May 4th.

Episode 6.15
Title: "Across The Sea."
Centric: Jacob/MIB.
Airing: May 11th.

Episode 6.16
Title: "What They Died For."
Centric: Possibly multi-centric.
Airing: May 18th.

Episode 6.17/6.18 (Series Finale)
Title: "The End."
Centric: Possibly multi-centric.
Airing: Sunday, May 23rd.

Just want to confirm that Episodes 16, 17, and 18 will be multi-centric. I really enjoyed the last multi-centric one, so I am looking forward to these future ones.

I'm really curious about the "Across the Sea" episode...final battle, end of the sideways timeline, perhaps? I hope it really does focus on Jacob/MIB.....

Why oh why did they insert this "dead week" into the lineup???

Originally posted by Gazrok
I'm really curious about the "Across the Sea" episode...final battle, end of the sideways timeline, perhaps? I hope it really does focus on Jacob/MIB.....

This episode will be great, I am sure.

Why oh why did they insert this "dead week" into the lineup???

Not sure. They just finished filming, so maybe they wanted to buy some time.

So I found out that the week that just passed was nothing but a repeat,
So I decided to watch a few episodes again
and

I FEEL STUPID NOW

why didn't I pick it up
even though it would have been 5 season later

K
Un-Lock takes Locks forum to make it easier for others
to see/take in. A more friendly type of body.

Well poor vincent

Season 1 episode 1
I think he died
Grey man/smoke man/Un-lock whom ever took
vincents forum. Where as you can watch , he watches the
crash from the bushes,
later on after watching all the people and what modern times have done
he finally comes out to "meat the guardians" ( vincents family walt/mike)

He then learns and watches them all
finding out who maybe contestants
In the episodes where vincent is gone they are doing dealings ( white/black )
or something taking notes.

When vincents body is starting to get "ripe" thats when he takes a different forum


something on the lines of that

but really watch S1E1 prt1&2 again you'll see vincent watching from a distance instead of what a normal dog would do, go to and stay by his owner

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Interesting theory. I'll have to watch the pilot again.

If this is true and there was a presence of MIB among the group of people, I'm hopeful that it would be shown in the centric episode of Jacob/MIB.

Interesting note on Vincent...

But, couldn't it have also been Jacob?

Nice catch, EvilBat! We'll have to wait until next week to see if this pans out.

Originally posted by they see ALL
Also, about Jack, I now believe that he is only with MIB right now so that he can deny him directly. (I am thinking in terms of Christianity here.) Jack, up to the second to last most recent episode, has only heard about MIB. Sure he could resist him on this basis alone, but it would be more fitting for Jack to observe MIB's evilness, and then resist him. Just like Jesus was unsuccessfully tempted by Satan, so too will Jack by MIB. This will make Jack all the more hero/Jacob-like. Plus, this will divide the two in time for the Jacob/MIB episode, "Across The Sea."

Looks like I was spot on here - so nice!

What a great episode it was last night! I was so sad about all the deaths (especially Jin and Sun's), but such dead characters are also living in the new timeline, so it kind of negates any emotion, right?

Sayid certainly redeemed himself (I think he "woke up" when talking with Desmond). I am still wondering how Desmond will save the day or, at least, will be a tool of saving the day. Also, I wonder how MIB will kill the rest of our Losties since he cannot kill them directly.

That was such a great scene in the submarine where Sawyer thought that the bomb would go off, and Jack thought the opposite. I don't blame Sawyer, though, because he was just playing skeptic.

I am confused, however. Why would Widmore want them all dead?

Here is how, I think, the rest of the show will play out (with very little details):

In the next episode, the Jacob/MIB one, as noted already, we'll mainly see the back-stories of Jacob and MIB - very little of our Losties will be seen in this episode, and thus very little plot development.

This little plot development is evidenced, I think, in the title of the episode after the Jacob/MIB one- "What They Died For." In this episode, we'll see exactly the reason for/outcome of the deaths of Sayid, Jin, Sun, Lapidus, and etc. (The title, we can assume, then, is referring to these characters when using "they.") Although, the only character, I think, that really made the sacrifice was Sayid - the rest just died off in the aftermath.

Then, of course, is the Series Finale, where everything comes to a conclusion.

Huge news! The 'Lost' Finale will now be two and a half hours long!

The producers of ABC's hit drama have shot so much crucial material for the show's hugely anticipated series finale that the network has agreed to extend the last episode by an extra half-hour.

...

Lindelof recently told THR that the crew built all-new sets for the finale and promised the ending would prompt more questions.

The supersizing of the finale is the latest adjustment to what might as well be called "The 'Lost' Weekend." ABC is airing an "enhanced" (pop-ups) version of the show's original two-hour pilot on May 22. On Sunday there's a two-hour retrospective titled "Lost: The Final Journey," followed by the finale, then the local news (which was preempted in the first-blush recounting of this plan) and Kimmel post-show.

Also, check this out:

"Lost" co-creator Damon Lindelof tells THR the crew built new sets for the final moments of the ABC hit drama and that fans should expect to ask themselves, "What did they mean by this?" after the show ends.

...

As for the nagging question of whether fans be satisfied by the ending, Lindelof said the finale will not employ a "Sopranos"-style fake-out, but he emphasized that viewers will definitely be left with questions.

" 'The Sopranos' ending only worked on 'The Sopranos,' " Lindelof said. "The series finale has to fit the show. We're trying to end lost in a way that feels 'Lost'-ian and fair and will generate a tremendous amount of theorizing. We're going to be as definitive as we can be and say this is our ending, but there's no way to end the show where the fans aren't going to say, 'What did they mean by this?' Which is why we're not going to explain it."

To be honest, I am a bit afraid of this. I know that I said it myself - that 'Lost' should end in a cliffhanger - but closure is always nice! This battle between the ending being definitive and the ending not being explained directly to us is a bit on shaky grounds. I am sure it will be awesome, though!

[edit on 5-5-2010 by they see ALL]

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Why are you saying Widmore wants them dead? I'm under the impression that he caged them to protect them. He said himself he is doing it for their own good.

I thought last night's episode was very good. I love seeing Jack & Sawyer going head to head on an issue. Always makes for some of the best moments.

A lot of people are saying that it was tough to see Sayid, Jin & Sun go. What? Honestly, I thought it was LONG overdue. At the beginning of the series, anyone and everyone was vulnerable. Main characters were killed off. But since? Who? Not much. I thought it was great to see the writers pull the plug on some characters. I also think they did a great job finishing off the story line for Jin & Sun. A fitting ending, in my opinion.

I do have one complaint though. I don't like that they wasted so much time in this season trying to confuse the viewer on whether or not Locke was good or bad. We always assumed he was bad but I think people had their doubts at times. But it just seemed like a waste of time. They could have taken that in a better direction, in my opinion.

Seeing the emotion from them on the beach after the deaths of Sayid, Sun and Jin was great. Not only the emotion, but the deterioration of these characters. It's almost as if the characters are reaching their own end as the series begins to wrap up. I do like that.

Next week's episode is going to be something!

Two more weeks. Three episodes. Four and a half hours!

Originally posted by chissler
Why are you saying Widmore wants them dead?

I am using MIB's words as evidence, and, of course, the fact that there was C-4 on the plane.

I thought it was great to see the writers pull the plug on some characters. I also think they did a great job finishing off the story line for Jin & Sun.

Again, though, they really aren't dead. You could say, I guess, that the "old" versions of these characters are - the ones we have been following for six years - but the "new" ones are still living - who are the characters from the new timeline.

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How do we know that Widmore put that on the plane and that it wasn't just Locke setting everything into motion? When Locke got on the plane, he knew exactly where to go and where to look. And then without even attempting to look somewhere else, he told the others that it was too risky and they would need to use the sub.

I don't think Widmore tried to kill them and I think it was just another piece of the plot of MIB trying to kill them all in one swoop.

Originally posted by chissler
How do we know that Widmore put that on the plane and that it wasn't just Locke setting everything into motion?

Yeah, I know, but the plane being guarded, to me, was a sign that MIB didn't put the bomb on the plane. I mean, he took the watch off one of the guard's dead bodies to make the timer, and he seemed to analyze the bomb a bit before taking it. Who knows, though.

A sneak peak of this week's episode. I've watched it, nothing to even come close to a spoiler. Just a nice teaser.



edit: Here's one more.



[edit on 5-8-2010 by chissler]

I can't wait for tonight's episode...

I'm already planning out the details of the finale party...

We've only ever had a party for one other show like this (True Blood), where we actually got some of the True Blood drink, etc. (it's nasty by itself, but an excellent mixer for Vodka, which we called a "Fangbanger"...)