Amazing Speech from an Iraqi War Veteran

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Holy Crap! That guy has hit the nail right on the head, & had the guts enough to come out & say it publicly.

The United States has over %70 of its economy dedicated to military activity - it can not be seen in any other way as a military regime.

The United States is controlled by a single man (one day a woman?) who WAS balanced by congress - this was taken away by Bush with preemptive doctrine. Therefore the United States is a military dictatorship.

The United States under Bush also declared its wars in the name of God - it is therefore a Religious, Military Dictatorship - no other country on earth is that far backwards. No other country on earth is a military regime except - maybe - Pakistan, and to a lesser extent Iran.

The greatest lie perpetrated on this planet, in any forum, under any context and in any guise is the one perpetrated by the United States of America thats its military activities are peaceful and aimed at spreading democracy - without any inch of doubt the biggest lie on earth.

If this is a lie - and we all know it is - then what is the truth?

The United States has covertly invaded over 100 countries since the end of the second world war - it has overtly invaded 70 countries. The US has been directly responsible for the death of more civilians than any other military force in the history of this planet - period.

The US has displaced more civilians, destroyed more lives, dropped more bombs, killed more people, than any other nation in history - including the worst atrocities of the Soviet Unions in the Gulags.

To many this may seem impossible - however the US has waged wars not simply with heinous weapons of human destruction, but also through economic warfare. These include third world debt slavery, the instigation and continuation of domestic warfare and civil war for resource control and acquisition, intellectual property rights enforcement over drug patents killing millions, upon millions of aids suffers in Africa, Monsanto seed control killing millions through starvation in India and Africa, Rwanda, Congo, Uganda are all part of the US system of African subversion in resource acquisition - the list is endless.

For anyone, to ever use the peace and democracy ruse is an abomination on the very idea of altruism. It is a disgrace.

For this Marine to stand up a say what he has is not an achievement, it is not a bold move, it is the very fundamental of the truth. The fact is that I should not be praised for condemning murder, I should not be praised for admitting my guilt in heinous acts of murder and destruction - it should be taken in silent acknowledgment that the truth has been spoken. The posters on this forum are only showing displaying so much praise and outpourings of emotional approval because such truth, such frank acknowledgment of the true evil that the US perpetuates is so rare, is never uttered and is taboo.

The most depressing fact in all of this is not what this soldier speaks - it is the silence into which he speaks - it is not his words but the void his words fill. it is not what he says - but what has not been said.

The US is the greatest lie, self deceiving civilization in the history of our planet - total denial. The truth is that Rome, Persia, Great Britain knew exactly what they were doing and admitted to it openly. The US is the very first country to ever seek to acheive its nefarious gaols through such a surretptious and underhanded way - through total denial and endemic lies.

It is the fact that you all live these lies, and are so moved to hear the truth about your own world that is so truly and deeply disturbing. The end of American Exceptionalism has come and gone, in fact we are now faced with the potential of total American decline - the time for recriminations will be upon you all very soon. The speed at which America raped the world, consumed its bounty and fell from grace is mind boggling, however the fact that all of this happened in less than 40 years means you will all be around to feel the wrath and reap the punishment which will is coming your way.

There will be no favors, there will be no camaraderie, no helping hands - literally the Us will stand alone and face the world for the horrors it has perpetuated upon the world in pursuit of its own power and glory, in the name of peace, as it spread democracy by killing millions, upon millions of people, spreading war, mayhem, disease, and destruction to ever corner of the globe.

Actually the enemy is peace.

The god of war is our savior.

Hi. Videos like this show a better United States, which I'm sure exists. Good people with good hearts and a richness of culture that has a lot to offer. I hope the US' thinking, politics and therefore image shift towards this kind of expressions. Then, and only then will America inspire the world like it did before. It's a long shot considering today's circumstances, but the video does inspire hope. Inspired me to post for the first time anyway. Peace and love from Mexico City.

Iraq was wrong! But Afghanistan is another ball game altogether. It's the fountainhead of terror along with Pakistan. The Taliban and Al Qaeda need to be taken out whatever the means! Period!

They are a danger to world peace. They are intent to get hold of the nukes and bio/chem WMDs. If they do, can you imagine the consequences? You want a million Americans to die in a nuclear blast and millions more due to radiation sickness?

You've got a choice. Either destroy them or get destroyed! What is it?

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yeah that was stupid. there are alot of people that were in the military and they get out and say alot of things. im sure we werent as bad as sadam, its not hard just find an iraqi and ask him yourself instead of youtubing it

That sent shivers down my spine...

Now I wish UK soldiers could do the same. Somehow I think the veil pulled over our eyes in this country is a lot thicker to see through. Maybe I'mn wrong but thats just the impression I get. I just couldn't imagine something like that coming from the mouth of a British soldier

what is right in our eyes? is it right to kill?
the bible tells us in the commandments ,in fact it orders us NOT to kill, and yet GOD told Samual to tell Saul to kill all the Amalakites, ( thats providing what samual 15 is true and ?written by GOD???)

Same in your own country, you kill and you go to jail, BUT if you are in the army and trained to kill and ordered to kill, well thats alright.
why do we kill? we kill because we are greedy, jealous, revenge, ordered, peer pressure, fear.

In the old films the baddies are always in old dark dirty clothes, and the goodies are in nice white pressed clothes with good morals, its what we are trained to believe is correct,
but it could be different,
in truth, it could be the baddies are the ones in in nice white pressed clothes, and the goodies in the old dark dirty clothes.
now we question and see things more clearly , because we don,t always accept what we are told as true.

we can be told lies and made to believe they are true,
Brain washing, mind control, if you are given a basis in religion whereas ,the book is written by GOD, who are you to question, and so more knowledgable people who are putting forward information to you, to direct you in a particular direction, if you don,t agree then you become an enemy to the system.
We are the sum total of memories and experience,that is limited to what we absorb.
when someone dies, others carry the pain, mothers, fathers, brothers ,sisters, aunts, uncles, sons , daughters,nieces nephews,grandparents,cousins and friends.

SO what is right? is it right to kill?

Powerful speech. Watching that video brought a tear to my eye. It illustrates clearly who the real terrorists are.
The American government and the governments that support them are bastards!

What a waste of human life.

This really pisses me off.

I am a Vet and this is all false , You have no Idea what these people would do you if they catch you in your Country or theirs , Dont be fooled you bleeding hearts you are weak and will be over run by Muslim extremists that look like you just read the news on Christmas a bomber on a plane trying to kill hundreds of innocent people , Beware the false videos that the Muslim extremists put out for bleeding hearts the shooting in fort hood is an example they are here trying to kill us we have to kill them first

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On a lighter note, this link illustrates what becomes of all personal judgement with 95% of those who enter the military. I realize that conformity is necessary at times, but what if you were in the Taliban? Would you conform to terrorist plots? (probably so given human nature).

conformity..
www.youtube.com...

I was sitting in a bar listening to a friend after a first tour back from Vietnam discussing his growing enjoyment of destroying villages etc, and that is when I WOKE UP.



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Originally posted by yenko13
I am a Vet and this is all false , You have no Idea what these people would do you if they catch you in your Country or theirs , Dont be fooled you bleeding hearts you are weak and will be over run by Muslim extremists that look like you just read the news on Christmas a bomber on a plane trying to kill hundreds of innocent people , Beware the false videos that the Muslim extremists put out for bleeding hearts the shooting in fort hood is an example they are here trying to kill us we have to kill them first

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One word for YOU ... Brainwash

I think your military career has done a good job of that. Sorry if I offend you but I don't take kindly to being called 'weak' . I don't need to join the army and kill people in the name of my country to feel like a man. I'm not surprised that they would want to kill you in their country. It's their country and we have no business being there.

And!! I can't believe you are on this website talking about the recent 'bombing plot' . My friend have you not learnt how it works by now.

As a Mr W. Shakespeare said , along the lines of ...

"The world is a STAGE"

I couldn't access the original link but googled this guy.
He is amazing and he has guts.
What US and others are doing is waging war for financial and political interests. This then creates a vicious circle creating more would be terrorists - which in turn creates more reason (and excuse) for more military action.

Originally posted by unicorn1
I couldn't access the original link but googled this guy.
He is amazing and he has guts.
What US and others are doing is waging war for financial and political interests. This then creates a vicious circle creating more would be terrorists - which in turn creates more reason (and excuse) for more military action.

Well said!!!

Nice to see that some of them are realizing whats going on, but.... its a tad late isnt it?

As for the vet who thinks killing "them" is the solution, do you have complete genocide in mind? And when all muslims are dead, who's next? The russians? The vietnamese? Black people perhaps?

Dont you get it?

One week with a ordinary muslim family and your entire world view would change dramatically. One week.


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One week for any of us with a family anywhere in the world and our lives would change.

These soldiers should all be proud of their conduct and be proud that they are waking up to the global reality of a united world democracy.

It is no different than a Doctor becoming educated about the real time issues facing the world today and being afraid to "out"the pharmacutical companies that legally hide cures to diseases they find cures for during their research.

This waking up and beginning to feel wrong about the systems all around the world is a global occurance,its happening in every major country in the world and on that note there are cell phones with internet acess in the deepest jungles and at the north pole so its safe to say that people are waking up everywhere at the same time.

There is nothing left to fight for once you become informed of THE REAL TIME ISSUES FACING HUMANS ALL OVER THE PLANET,you cant see anything else worth fighting for except HELPING PEOPLE-- NOT KILLING THEM FOR ANY REASON.

The internet has allowed all of us to obtain real time information and now we KNOW HOW EACH OTHER FEEL IMMEDIATLY WITHOUT OUR GOVERNMENTS AND RELIGONS GETTING THE CHANCE TO ALTER OR MANIPULATE OUT VISION AND PERSPECTIVE OF THE WORLD AS IT TRULY IS AND THE REALITY AS IT TRULY IS HAPPENING IN REAL TIME .

To all you military guys and gals --the logistical lagtime created during information transfer has been used to manipulate and control humanity for centuries,the internet has eliminated the lagtime creating FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY A REAL TIME SEQUENCE OF INFORMATION TRANSFER THAT CLOSES THE LOOPHOES THE TAKES AWAY THE WIGGLE ROOM OF THE CONTROLLERS.The controllers being governments,religons,and corporate and private entities,all of whom are fiscally motivated and justify their actions of enslaving humanity by claiming that THEY ARE ONLY DOING WHAT WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO DO,forgetting to mention how they have fragmened the realtime information transfers globally for centuries,and denied education and destroyed knowledge IN ORDER TO KEEP US DIVIDED IN ORDER THAT THEY BE ENABLED TO REMAIN HIDDEN WITHIN THESE ORGANISATIONS.

These organisations HAVE NEVER done what the people have wanted.And now the people know.We can just guess what is coming next cant we?

If any one government tries gain support in an effort to control the information transfer on the internet then it is time to get VERY,VERY worried because that will be a sign that they are realising where their Achilles heel is .

The world is changing to fast for any one or two countrys to stop the progress.The only possible governing system is a global democracy which just so happens to be the ONLY WAY A TRUE DEMOCRACY CAN EXIST.With every human being on earth having a fair and equal vote in the course of humanitys progress.

Whos jumping in first because we are all going in wether we like it or not,in the name of humanitys progress not because we are being forced by some hostile country,or government.or terrorists,or religous fanatics.

Because this is the future and the time is now.

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Hey Guys
I do apologize for it taking me so long to flag this
im' flag # 197 lol

I've been meaning too just kept forgetting
also don't visit GC much

mods, can we sticky this thread?
ATSers, everyone below me say Let's Sticky this!
if we get enough support why wouldn't it happen?

COME ON GUYS!

brilliant video
how could anyone have any disagreements?

Hi, Everyone, IM almost 50, there are some times, in your life when you hear amaizing things.

this speech from the U.S. Soldier Mike Prysner is one of this times.

To my this brave man is an hero.
An heroe who has had the guts to say what many have not.

Im sad for United States, who has lost his sighT. it ist now a blind nation.

Im not american, Not Antiamerican, indeed Im from one of the countries that have suffer most the greed of corporate american since USA is a nation.

and if you allow me to say it, this is your nightbour point of view

U.S. Soldier Mike Prysner you are worthy to be call a True Free Man

May many USA Soldiers open their eyes, for the good of your own country.

God Bless you.

I am glad to see that he knows what is going on, that the enemy is really the wealthy elite and everything, but it's also a problem that can't really be solved.

Our country is a Democracy, people who worked harder and smarter are become wealthier, so in this competitive environment peoples' lives turn into a need to be the best, an ultra-competitive society where only the most successful matter. And in this ultra-competitive society the means to being the most successful do not matter, what matters is that you become successful; the ends justify the means as long as you don't get caught. Sure we hate the wealthy elites at the top, but they earned the right to be at the top didn't they?

No matter how evil the elite seems to be you can't change the fact that our entire lives are spent in competition, and this competition can corrupt us; our form of government makes our society run this way.

Cool guy, but a hopeless guy.

The competition comes from participaction in a a global money based economy,this is the reason we have greed and corrupotion and also the reason these behaviours can remain hidden and protected by many layers of people with many paralell agendas.Anti-humanitarial behaviour needs help to exist.

A true global democracy has no need for a money based economy and eliminates a massive amount of global competition and many wars and conflicts and it also renders powerless religons that are entrenched historicly in the money based system to the point that the only reason these archaic belief systems havent been forgotten is the influence of that money and fiscal support.

Without money these backwards belief systems must be re-evaluated and most will disappear,replaced by religons provided freely on all media outlets by society,no need for a religon to have any fiscal power at all in fact it is absolutely critical that they never do.

By global democracy I mean every human being alive on the planet gets a real time vote in everything that happens on this planet ,all of humanity on the same team because thats where we belong.

Eliminate religos power ,regional governments and their militaries,eliminate a money based economic system,


AND YOU HAVE PARADISE.

A global democracy does all these things at once in one fell swoop,and the ONLY WAY A DEMOCRACY CAN EXIST ON EARTH IS IF IT IS GLOBAL because the spheres of influence of all major countries now reach all around the world.Unless everyone who is affected by a countries sphere of influence has a vote in the actions dictated by that influence then it is a crime to exert that sphere of influence beyond regional borders.

Every human everywhere on earth with an equal vote in everything AND THE INTERNET AND ITS EASY AND GLOBAL ACCESS MAKES THIS ALL A REALITY AND THE FUTURE.