UFO Pyramid Over Kremlin in Moskow?

Originally posted by Blender
Hopefully everyone realises that this is a hoax by now. The main reason being that, as mentioned in previous posts, the traffic is going along smoothly. Everything looks normal. There are no crowds of people looking at the object.

It's easy to call it a hoax. And if it is, then so be it.
But by what method is this a hoax?
Who is pulling it off? How was it done?

Originally posted by keepureye2thesky

Originally posted by Blender
Hopefully everyone realises that this is a hoax by now. The main reason being that, as mentioned in previous posts, the traffic is going along smoothly. Everything looks normal. There are no crowds of people looking at the object.

It's easy to call it a hoax. And if it is, then so be it.
But by what method is this a hoax?
Who is pulling it off? How was it done?

I can't answer how/who/or why, I can only say that there is no tumbling Pyramid floating about the Kremlin, and somehow someone made it look like there was.

I suppose there is still a chance that this is real, that is, if Russians are so used to seeing huge Pyramid UFOs in their citys, that they don't even pause to take notice anymore.

[edit on 10-12-2009 by Blender]

Hi There. New to ATS and not sure how to attach a youtube video. I found a video that looks like the same object. I hope the link works guys but sorry if it does not.



www.youtube.com...

One of my impressions is that it's not a reflection, in some of the first frames. I tried to examine the pixelation, but I don't know. Weather and illusions, that doesn't seem to make any sense. I hear that explanation on some things here and it makes as much sense as swamp gas.

Hoax, maybe? Hard to tell unless we have some definite proof on way or the other.

Troy

reply to post by Blender

Fair enough. The reason I ask is that explaining how the hoax was performed may help other members, when viewing future videos. A few posts back I posted a photo that does show the object still there where others stated that it had disappeared (this seem to send up the hoax flag).

I feel that the reflection theory does not hold up.

This leaves a few possibilities.. Balloon, CGI or even a ship of some kind.

I dont know much about identifying CGI artifacts etc. So I am open to hear any explanation.

reply to post by intothelight

Thanks for sharing and welcome!!!!
It does have the basic characteristics of the 2 previous videos posted here.
Your contribution is well appreciated.

reply to post by Imagir


I seriously doubt that this is legit. I mean come on what would you do if you saw a flying pyramid? I would be like HOLY CRAP LOOK AT THAT!!...The guys on the video are way too calm. Even if this video is legit I bet it's nothing more than a giant pyramid shaped balloon.

Originally posted by intothelight
Hi There. New to ATS and not sure how to attach a youtube video. I found a video that looks like the same object. I hope the link works guys but sorry if it does not.

The Youtube video you'd like to be a alien UFO or a TR-3B astraship actually looks more like a ballon or a slow hover moving TR-3A Black Manta. And not a alien UFO at all. It's not even a TR-3C. Some people want to use the failed russian missile launch as a method wrapper for a paranoid conspiracy. With a flood of supposed alien-craft videos even Italian videos labeled russian! Notice how these videos never show any Directed-energy weapons or Electromagnetic pulse (EMPs), Or any real value of high status technology other than to hype the paranoid moment. No one ever checks the recent soho sun chart data as well to check for fly ins. Also no one checks the recent flight paths of meteoroids, comets or asteroids to see if there was a stealth fly in from a different origin.

Another interesting note is no one discusses any recent movies or TV shows such as V that could of been used as propaganda to prepare a audience for some outworldly news. Where's the research on these sightings other than a drive by youtube or a few hopeful comments? Where is the talk of any recent SETI@home activity as well. I suppose the Drive by Youtubes wrapped in riddles & poor quality is the excitement & that is the milk in the bottle.



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[edit on 11-12-2009 by Project2501]

Originally posted by np6888
reply to post by Teabags

 

They're not the same user. The 2nd guy does have a duplicate of the 1st, but he posted it after. More likely, he saw the first video, and that was why he was able to film it in daylight.

Altering parts of a video is not exactly easy.

Most likely, he just used some cheap computer software to put a pyramid in the sky because if there was one there, many would be able to see it and it would be on the news right now. Look at the video I posted earlier with the death star put in the sky over san francisco - looks the same.

Multiple reports of eyewitnesses are coming from the Siberian and Ural regions of Russia of blue spiral-shaped objects moving across the sky, similarly to the spiral lights seen in Norway:

Magnitogorsk:
www.e1.ru...

Chelyabinsk:
74.ru...
forum.searchengines.ru...

Ekaterinburg, Nizhnyj Tagil, Kurgan, Perm, Ufa, Salavat:
www.lenta66.ru...
www.e1.ru...

[double post]

[edit on 11-12-2009 by ahemot]

reply to post by Imagir


Norway Ver 2.0??

reply to post by downisreallyup


you really do cretit putin with far moor control than he really has

there are many journalists who refuse to follow pituns line most fase sprradic harrasment , some have even died in suspicious circumstances

so yes - despite your delusions of putins omnipotence - there is a free press in russia

and how do you propose he ` cencored ` staffs of the 150+ forreign embasises and consulates , or all the thousands of forign tourists / business men and workers ????????????

Starred and flagged

Very nice footage...

Wonder what it is... altho... if its a Star Destroyer it wouldnt be good news

Originally posted by downisreallyup

 

I'm not sure if they allow Russians to be on ATS... I know China doesn't allow it...

They certainly do. I post from Moscow.

Originally posted by spacecase7717

 

I don't know if these webcams are pointing the right way. Somebody that knows more about Moscow take a look and see.
www.earthcam.com...

This camera points to the Cosmodamian embankment, which is in the south direction (google map) of Moscow. Red Square is in the center of the city - easy to find on the provided map by typing it in the search bar.

A picture of it:


Any other Moscow-related questions?

reply to post by Lorok


Thanks for your participation. You are Russian, (from Moscow?) right?
Ok. Some questions:
1) it has been some event (parada) or festivity in city in these days?
2) is the aerial space on the Kremlin and Red Square interdict to the aerial traffic?
3) You consider that the authorities can have allowed the overflight to a balloon of those dimensions during the night over the Kremlin?

There are people out there who can produce any effect on a computer using programs such as after effects, combustion etc. We see many very real cases in films all the time, we know its not real because its a film but if we didnt know it was a film then....?

Im not saying that this is a hoax or real, my point being if something was real, would we really know for sure?

I remain both open-minded and equally sceptical to everything i see.







[edit on 11-12-2009 by Holist1c]

reply to post by Imagir

You are Russian, (from Moscow?) right?

Yes and yes.

1) it has been some event (parada) or festivity in city in these days?

As I've already said, this saturady is Constitution Day in Russia. No celebrations other than that.

2) is the aerial space on the Kremlin and Red Square interdict to the aerial traffic?

There is absolutely nothing that gets to hover over the Kremlin, save a few exceptions.

3) You consider that the authorities can have allowed the overflight to a balloon of those dimensions during the night over the Kremlin?

I find this highly unlikely. A hologram seems more probable.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
however...

Why is it that UFO's only reveal themselves to people who are too stupid operate a camera or record any decent footage. Um...hey idiots....why not pull the car over and film this thing without the obstruction of the windshield...or did you not want your footage to be taken seriously? It looks like a reflection. When you see the guys hand in the windshield at the end it makes me wonder if maybe they don't have sort of pyramid shaped object in their lap or in the center console.

Jesus Christ, I don't know how many times I've said the same thing! And, didn't this 'anomoly' happen roughly the same time as the sprial thing in Norway? ('caused by a rocket? yeah right)

Originally posted by DJM8507
Here is a better quality video.

You can clearly see pixelation around the pyramid and even blocky squares around it which shows it is most likely superimposed onto the video and then blended.

It also appears he is using a Panasonic GS500 MiniDV Camcorder.

[edit on 10-12-2009 by DJM8507]

I'm not saying it's NOT a fake, but using pixilization on the edge of the pyramid as proof of fraud is not a sound deduction. Pixelization is previlent in poor quality or blown up videos, and occurs mostly where there are light and dark transitions of color, precisely what's happening there: light edge of pyramid, black backdrop of night sky. It is no different than the lamp lights, oncoming car lights, the sides of the buildings, etc - see for yourself. Just sayin'