NASA Moon Anomalies III - Other Peoples Work

reply to post by ArMaP


So you are not interested like many ATS users by latest moon pictures from LRO ?
Just old hairy pictures.
Just rocks.

Originally posted by mixmix
So you are not interested like many ATS users by latest moon pictures from LRO ?

That's not what I said, or at least that's not what I thought I was saying when I wrote it, what I meant is that I am not more interested in any particular photo when compared with the other photos you posted.

As for the LRO photos, I am interested enough to have been downloading them since they started being published, and I am already downloading the pre-release photos that will be put on the Planetary Data System in February (I think).

Just old hairy pictures.

Old pictures, hairy or hairless, are also interesting, that's why I am also downloading the Clementine photos, the Apollo photos (although I only download the 2GB Apollo metric photos when I need to see more detail, like on those "sickle" photos, and delete the 2GB file after converting it to PNG) and the Lunar Orbiter photos.

Just rocks.

Maybe, but I like rocks.

PS: I can post some things I thought interesting in some LRO photos that I have posted on another thread.

Maybe, but I like rocks.
PS: I can post some things I thought interesting in some LRO photos that I have posted on another thread.

me too I like rocks
but shape matter's.
not just picture ID.
long, latt, resolution, sun angle.
height of rocks, length of shadows.

a bigger view of the sherrif star crater
unmodified
ATS posters, use your own brigthness and contrast settings.


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reply to post by mixmix

Sure, everything is important to get the best idea of the conditions in which the photo was taken, but I don't see any reference to sun angle, for example, on the pre-release images or on the associated documentation.

Originally posted by mixmix
The pyramid valley

Quite fascinationg this one - reminded me of something...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/8e92bcacda1cee82.jpg[/atsimg]
What do you think?!

reply to post by ArMaP

Sure, everything is important to get the best idea of the conditions in which the photo was taken, but I don't see any reference to sun angle, for example, on the pre-release images or on the associated documentation.

all these informations are in a single file name index.tbl
INDEX.TBL
link

example for M102781689L.IMG

Edit: example removed cause by html problem noticed by arMap
Just download INDEX.TBL.




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reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow

Quite fascinationg this one - reminded me of something...
What do you think?!

That's very new pictures for me.
Yes, fantastic.
But the last picture (the one which is dark) is really more amazing ?
Just play with contrast and brightness ?

It's always interesting to compare a site with known ones.
Can you hilights which stars position you see on the pyramid valley picture ?
a bigger one of pyramid valley ( image downsized 50%)






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reply to post by mixmix

I forgot about that file (and I even downloaded it :shk: ).

Thanks.

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reply to post by ArMaP


No problem arMap.
You and all posters are wellcome
but for the moment, people are not really interested.
Lot's of news these days.

An interesting site (out of topic), very subjective but it worths.
loveenki.blogspot.com... Caroline Bright
Not referenced on ATS.

Star and Flag, My god, this video is a real eye opener.

With the advances in lens technologies and camera resolution, I wonder how long it will be until we can start getting shots of this stuff from our own back yard.

Everyone saying "USA will never disclose" is wrong, Its not a matter of IF, its a matter of WHEN, And I think the WHEN will be there is no other choice, That time is coming.

OK, here are the things I found on LROC photos.

At first I was also looking for rolling rocks, but after finding so many I stopped worrying about them.

I don't call them anomalies because I don't know if they are normal or abnormal on the Moon.

From the "Terraced Wall of Bürg Crater" photo, photo nacl00000e09.
Something that could very well be a rock or Apollo 20.





From photo M101291859R, something that looks like rolling rocks.

Zoomed to 200% so its resolution is something like 42 centimetres per pixel.


A rolling rock, at the original 83 centimetres per pixel resolution.



More rolling rocks.
(click for full size, 83 centimetres per pixel)


Four rocks in a row?


It looks like those white rocks are below the surface.


Here is an image showing the places where I found the above images.



From top to bottom:
Yellow - possible rolling rock
Blue - definitely a rolling rock
Green - large rolling rock
Red - four rocks in a row
Cyan - white rocks below surface

More rolling rocks, from the photo from the left camera, M101291859L.

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The top of the next image is the same as the bottom of the previous one, it looks like that area is lower and the rocks roll down from both sides to that area.

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There are two things that I find strange in these two photos.

First, the white rocks that appear from below the ground; it almost looks like that area is loosing its dust and the rocks below become exposed and break. As I am not a geologist I do not know what may be happening there (and I don't know if any geologist knows), but those white (or just brighter) rocks look relatively fragile.

The second thing is that the tracks look "old", and by that I mean with little defined edges.

The above images are marked in coloured rectangles in the image below, from top to bottom by the same order.



More "rolling stones" and a strange rock formation, from photo nacl00005e30.

A rolling rock.


The strange rock formation, I think it's the first time I have seen such a straight line in a rock formation on the Moon.


An area with some rolling rocks.
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Another rolling rock.


The images above are respectively from the red, green, blue and yellow rectangles on the image below.


From photo M103668324R.

A very strange rock.
I think this is the strangest rock I have ever seen on the Moon, it's so jagged that it almost looks like a crystal (in shape). Very strange.

Or maybe it's just a trick of the light.

At first I thought it was crater, then I noticed that it had the dark area on the wrong side.
This is also new to me, a large, very dark, rock.


Another of those outcrops of white rock, those make me think that the Moon is mostly made of that white rock beneath what we see.


More rocks in a row, and these look almost like teeth.


The above photos are, respectively, the green, yellow, blue and cyan areas on the image below.


Something that I think I have never seen on a Moon photo, something that looks like gullies on a crater rim.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/bea4adbc6899075f.jpg[/atsimg]

From photo nacl00001431, the area is the rim of the larger crater on the top of the photo.

Sorry for the long post.

reply to post by ArMaP


Awesome stuff mate. Thanks!
Can you explain how in a few of the rolling rock images they seem to roll in and out of craters?!

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow

Probably by the same reason that happens on Earth, because they have enough energy to climb out of the crater.

That's the problem of not having a 3D view of the scene, we do not really know how things are as a 3D environment.

Originally posted by mixmix

Maybe, but I like rocks.
PS: I can post some things I thought interesting in some LRO photos that I have posted on another thread.

me too I like rocks
but shape matter's.
not just picture ID.
long, latt, resolution, sun angle.
height of rocks, length of shadows.

a bigger view of the sherrif star crater
unmodified
ATS posters, use your own brigthness and contrast settings.
[snip]
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And what, pray tell, are you implying can be seen?

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to post by ArMaP

 

Awesome stuff mate. Thanks!
Can you explain how in a few of the rolling rock images they seem to roll in and out of craters?!

While you, seemingly, requested an answer from ArMaP, he might agree with the following: earthquakes occur on the moon. Any loose rock on a steep hill will be shaken loose and even the small gravity on the moon will cause them to roll. Momentum entering whatever crater they encounter will supply new energy to move them out the crater. If they are rolling on loose moon dust, eventually the moon dust will pile up in front of the boulder and cause it to come to a halt until the next tremor which might or might not send it down again.

There are some fine photos showing the rocks that have rolled down a Massif with the astronauts in the foreground not giving the rolled rocks a second look 'cause they know what makes rocks roll downhill, in and out of craters.

reply to post by The Shrike

And what, pray tell, are you implying can be seen?

Good question.
I check the picture and lot's of compression.
I have problem to upload big images.
So download the original IMG file

I add some basic lines, shape and pattern but there's more.

reply to post by ArMaP


Nice post.
lot's of rolling stones

I'm not sure the white rocks are so white.
I think it's more the image processing which make them white.
They are 2 or 3 time more shining or reflexive than dust.
It depends also of the type of rock.
Many rocks are black.
But the ones eject from crater look more white. Cooking ?
Just my 2 cents

reply to post by ArMaP


thanks for those great finds

check lunacognita's comments here......

www.abovetopsecret.com...

the dog from LRO M102853214.IMG
on the left

reply to post by mixmix

Dog on the Moon? Couldn't see hair nor hide of it!! But have a look at this image. A cat on the Moon! Now where's that 'dog' again?