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Originally posted by Common Good
Where to start.
1. you are confused.
2. you need to stop trying to tell other people what music is doing to their families,cause its not Hip Hop thats doing it.
3. every hip hop show I go to, its far from what you see on T.V. and I go to A LOT of underground Hip Hop Shows, it is nothing but love when you walk in 90 percent of the time.
4. Every music genre has its goods and its bads.
5. Hip Hop is a reflection of everday life put into words, if you dont like it, change life and the music will change with it.
6.There is no 6, 5 is enough for this thread.
Originally posted by spirit777child
IMHO you are an embaressment to the human race.
Originally posted by spirit777child
Yes, my posting does represent my view of hip hop, isnt that the purpose of individual posting? I state my opinion which I see undebatable. I am sorry, I have been there and done that with the music industry. I have heard demos and heard rap that is enlightening. But I am an artist myself and dont need to be musically motivated to build and understanding. Not my thing. I will always represent my feelings because that is what I am a master of...ME!
[edit on 11/27/09 by mplsbookworm]
The truth is most of these jerks were ugly LOOSERS in the hood and NEVER had nothing and they will say all of this crap in their songs because it is newly acquired. Drop it to the floor, open up your legs, pop a mofo quick...give me that ass...titties everywhere...got that ice..got that bling...roll that whip...BLAH BLAH BLAH. Then parents wonder why their kids grow up with a false sense of reality wanting to be rappers. Then it is wondered why kids are dropping out of school and selling drugs when TV is raising these damn kids. It is DISGUSTING!!!!!
Yes, there will be some that debate and call me racist. Whatever. The funny part is how people complain about education and culture but watch hip hop videos popular music.
Then you hear people complain that they cant get a job because the "man" is holding them back. WTF!!!!! Stop playing play station and turn off BET and read DUMB A$$!!
Now...NO I am not racist. I am half black. But I am rasing young girls and a young man and I cant fathom allowing them to hear that crap without telling them what they are listening to. GARBAGE.
I am open to the ATS hate process and could care less about any discredit attempts. This was my way to vent about the BS I seen today while visiting my daughters school. If you dont like it....Hey...Ill bake you a batch of cookies. Im not here to please you...Im trying to raise productive children...not insecure hoochies and hoes.
Originally posted by platipus
isn't heavy metal, goth, emo and other type of rock not making kids behave as badly and ignorant? yes.
dont just point it at one type of music.
Originally posted by Snarf
Originally posted by platipus
isn't heavy metal, goth, emo and other type of rock not making kids behave as badly and ignorant? yes.
dont just point it at one type of music.
the difference here ist hat the OP isn't saying that what you said isn't true.
The OP Is saying that it is true about Hip Hop. So please, for the sake of intelligent conversation - try and realize that.
I hate it when people use these types of "come backs" as a tool to stick up for things like this.
"I am offended that you are picking on hip hop, so i will pick on heavy metal"
Well, congrats, the OP said lots of different music, and for him personally, its hip hop in general because of his relationship to it.
Unbelievable.
And to the OP - i agree. I miss the days of "The Message" from Grandmaster Flash, or some Bone, NWA, or the likes. Back when rap meant something like the blues, or rock n roll.
Modern "hip hop" is a joke because it appeals to the idiot masses and nobody else.
appreciating modern music in general is much like buying a drum set from wal-mart and claiming to be the next Chris Slade or Ringo Starr
It seems to me and many others that have posted here take it as he is blaming just hip-hop for socities ills.
Because Hip Hop is to blame for societies ills. Thats what he is saying. He's not saying its ONLY hip hop. No where does it even remotely suggest such a thing.
Originally posted by mplsbookworm
You hate people who tar all things with the same brush? It is ignorant? What is tar? lol...Im ignorant? So now you are saying you hate me and I am supposed to even consider you a factor in a topic about raising kids.
You can sit and tell me your second hand stories about music and how you disagree..blah blah blah. Kids could care less about the new underground hip hop album being released. They dont LIKE IT!!!! Do you not see who sells records? Our children LIKE THIS CRAP not your demo CD.
I get personally bothered with people like you on ATS. Not because you voice your opinion but because you say elementary crap like I hate people because they dont agree with me!
Why even post. You hate people? I am ignorant? Sweety, you have NO idea who I am or what I know about music. Chat with me and ask me my connection to the industry then try and school me.
I love you even if you hate me. I hope that you learn to understand the power of influence as well as the power of negativity.
Hip hop is responsible for societies ills huh? Riddle me this then chief, inform us of the problems and how hip hop created and is currently maintaining these so called ills.
Originally posted by mplsbookworm
Originally posted by spirit777child
Yes, my posting does represent my view of hip hop, isnt that the purpose of individual posting? I state my opinion which I see undebatable. I am sorry, I have been there and done that with the music industry. I have heard demos and heard rap that is enlightening. But I am an artist myself and dont need to be musically motivated to build and understanding. Not my thing. I will always represent my feelings because that is what I am a master of...ME!
[edit on 11/27/09 by mplsbookworm]
A true artist respects the craft of other atrists, you obviously have no respect for the craft of hip hop given your one sided view!
You do not need to use hiphop to build an understanding but you can use a lot of conscious hiphop to help you understand many things, for hip hop/rap are life stories.....or others realities through words...if that does not motivate or move you then you are as good as dead.
- Tell me what you know about being a true artist? Are you an artist or are you a fan? I have no respect for the craft? You can not tell me about hip hop and the stories told. Do you wanna debate lyrics and artists and origins of the such? Please tell me yes and we can do so because I can quote MANY artists to heart. Jay Z "do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it" You skim sweety. You dont understand.
"I might go crazy on these niggas I dont give a mother#
Run up in a nigga house and shoot his grandmother up what!
What I dont give a mother# get cha baby kidnapped
And ya baby mother#ed
It's tha Carter 3 bitch better put ya supper up
Hollygrove I throw it up like im tryna lose my gut
# is up beat him up like a million uppercuts
Got a million duffeled up for the # of it
# get on my level you cant get on my level
You would need a spaceshuttle or a ladder thats forever
However im better if now than never
Dont you ever fix ya lips unless you bout to suck my dick" Lil Wayne
I respect and more so understand the point of view. I know what they are saying and why. Do I want my kids to listen to this crap...NO! And they dont, but their friends do!
I am an embarrassment to who? WOW. I love you hun. You need a hug. I virtually hug you because you have no idea the nature of my heart. I am a loving person and a good person. You are an embarrassment to all that care about our childrens future. You my dear, are acting deaf, dumb, and blind. You can call me names but you cant see me. You will never see me. You cant see me. I am a ATS ghost and your words although hateful, are hidden behind the mask of the internet and being tough over the internet is not a credit to your character. It is a front and I love you for it.
IMHO you are an embaressment to the human race.