Seeking the advice and input of ATS members on an important issue...

I'm yer Huckleberry.....

This is going to came to a nasty head one day.

I hope it doesn't pop the wrong way!

Yes I'm with ya...

I also will do whatever I can.Is this one of obama's czars?

how exactly do we demonstrate our support ? Like I mean where do we sign sort of thing ?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

If we (ATS) were to organize an online petition effort, would you support that?

100% Without equivocation!

Furthermore I'm happy to walk down the street and hand out the petition myself ... also, time permitting, I shall park in front of the guy's DC residence and read out Blossom Goodchild channelings all day via a pa system if you think it will help.

Seriously, what do you think the realistic chances are of this bill passing?

A petition - I may think that it will work. I think that some websites such as ATS should come together and petition jointly, without spending too much on it, but only to make sure that ATS and other websites can still have access to third party ad networks

[edit on 25-11-2009 by sunny_2008ny]

I agree with both of the previous posters, anything to protect freedoms. I absolutely agree that killing these advertisements would significantly hurt small business. I'll gladly sign anything against this bill. Keep ATS and other websites I like the way they are... Really? Scared of Cookies? I love cookies.

Of course I'm in 100%. I've always been a fan of freedom and I've always been willing to do whatever it takes to maintain that freedom.

I'm in full support of this petition! Let's hope something can be done.

Yes, I support it.
Protecting small business and flow of information is important.

I've registered a new domain as the rallying point for this user-based effort. We'll host it, but it should be totally agnostic and hopefully representative of Internet users everywhere.

More information coming soon.

Destroying Ad-based web sites would basically eliminate a huge aspect of revenue for small and medium businesses. I support any effort to keep the internet open and free.

SO, wouldn't Google be jumping all over this? Their primary source of revenue is ad-based, correct? I figured the major search engines that fuel their growth via advertising networks would be making a ruckus over this legislation.

Let's not let this Virginia congressman put the freedom of the internet into the hands of the few when it is such a source of information and enlightenment to many.

Go figure another Democrat wanting to take away venues for free speech. Liberals love their control, and of course if we don't spend all day preaching how great thou art they will strip any means we have to share our views.

I support ATS in a petition to defend web freedom.

My letter is composed, I have not mailed it out via internet yet, please u2u me if you want to read what I have.

Also, as I type this I'm on the phone with Pete Hoekstra's DC office and will be talking with him soon.

Let me know if there is anything further I can do.

I can understand your concern about loss of revenue though ads.
However, many of these advertisers ARE unscrupulous and people have experienced virus attacks and trojans because of these ads. I have, on many occassions, had my computer both attacked and frozen from such ads.

I think people should have a voice in whether to allow cookies or not. Otherwise, it is a condition of use that is being shoved down our throats whether we like it or not.

Those who wish to contribute financially to the website by allowing cookies should have the option of "giving" in that way instead of it being demanded of them.

Also, if allowing cookies were an optional feature, and even if it did affect the income of the website, then those websites who still stand, in spite of smaller incomes from ads, would show that their motives are altruistic and not simply a "for profit" pasttime.


When people are involved in something they truly believe in, lack of monetary reward is not a factor.


I am in favor of the bill that gives people the voice of freedom of choice.



[edit on 25-11-2009 by Alethea]

Hmm, yea Freedoms won't be taking people say, this is just the start off it !

And a petition is a good idea, but I am pretty sure this people are just gonna do it Regardless of what the 'people' wants.....

It is what 'they' want and need, ' and they need the internet under cencorship so you abd I cant get the latest 'scoop' on their 'agenda', that is what is coming..

George Green said in April last year, that 'they' are going to take away the internet for the common man, along with their Money and Cars etc..

Please get it already ....

What a sad sad story...This means that only the biggest companies will be able to have a voice. (I think) And all us individual minds must suffer the consequences? I say nay, no mass control for them! This place is truly the only place I am free to speak my mind.

Where do I sign? Or click?

Plus, I don't ever click on ads in any case. (sorry if that's a revenue loss for you guys)

[edit on 06/10/2009 by jinx880101]

Originally posted by HotSauce
Go figure another Democrat wanting to take away venues for free speech. Liberals love their control, and of course if we don't spend all day preaching how great thou art they will strip any means we have to share our views.

Oh won't you please give it a rest!

If you think the Murdochs of this world and the anti-porn moral police aren't puppeteering at least part of this then you lack the most basic of conspiratorial understandings.

But no, it's the democrats.

Absolutely!! I will sign a petition or send an email or letter. We must keep government regulation out of the last bastion of free speach left to us.

I'm in.

I don't know who I'd talk to about some of this stuff if i actually had to FIND intelligent open minded people in everyday life.

I'll get all of my friends and family to sign it as well.

OK, I'll make em sign the damn thing.

[edit on 25-11-2009 by badgerprints]

This legislation does have merit. It would help limit Internet streaming for the purpose of piracy due to the fact that most of these websites are only up due to revenue created from third party advertising. I would hate to see this effect legitimate websites, such as ATS, ability to collect revenue. Also the infrastructure behind these third party advertising organizations would be gone. Haven't we already lost enough jobs and think of losses in tax revenues from the companies based in the US. And again why do it? So that some computer database won't know how much I am on ATS, Fark, CNN or how much Porn I look at! I don't care! This is the government again attempting to baby us and put there nose where it really has no business. I was unaware of this but I am already drafting a letter to my congressman for whatever much good it will do.