KYMATICA- Your True Purpose In Life, The Ego, Logos & Creation a MUST WATCH!

I own this and Esoteric Agenda, very thought provoking works. Good on you by bringing this to attention, it can't be shown or brought up enough.

reply to post by buds84


@ you calling various ancient philosophies "garbage" and "no research."

You're lost, my friend!


S&F, OP. I'm watching them now.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by bsbray11]

Thanks for the repost OP (as I missed the first one)!

Lot's of things worth another thought in this imho, but of course one should always watch with a certain amount of "filtering" in place. That goes for everything btw!

Not sure if I've seen this "Esoteric Agenda" that's been mentioned a couple of times in this thread, but something tells me that's about to change!

Thanks again and keep up the good work!

Edit: S&F'd of course!

[edit on 24/11/2009 by Action]

reply to post by RRokkyy


Precisely...


We create our own reality through our interpretations, and attitudes which eventually lead to deeds.

This is why I am ultimately an Autotheist.

There is no God but me. And the same is true for you.

Originally posted by bsbray11
reply to post by buds84

 

@ you calling various ancient philosophies "garbage" and "no research."

You're lost, my friend!

S&F, OP. I'm watching them now.
[edit on 24-11-2009 by bsbray11]

No, your lost. You haven't even seen the movie yet and you automatically agree with it and assume I'm "lost"

When these conspiracy movies try to string all religions together and say they all come from one common myth, then you know their researched was horrible.

Just because a movie seems to be a "Truth" movie, don't jump on it and assume everything in it is truth.

Originally posted by buds84
No, your lost.

You mean "you're," like the contraction of "you" and "are." Not my lost, as if I have possession of lost.

You haven't even seen the movie yet and you automatically agree with it and assume I'm "lost"

I was already watching it when I read your sorry post, and I know in general what it is about, because the information being presented is not new or original.

When these conspiracy movies try to string all religions together and say they all come from one common myth, then you know their researched was horrible.

Show me your evidence that linking all religions is impossible. You know you're asserting a negative, which is notoriously hard to prove, right?

Just because a movie seems to be a "Truth" movie, don't jump on it and assume everything in it is truth.

I don't have all these psychological defense mechanisms like you do, having to proclaim things I see or hear as false in order to feel more comfortable about myself.

What is presented in the videos, while not all 100% correct, is still much more correct in its viewpoint than the underlying "philosophy" behind 99% of what you see and do on a daily basis. I think that is why you take so much offense to it.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by bsbray11]

I liked it up until all this "Lucifer" talk .. Lucifer, which in the original text refers to the Christ, and later in the KJV is only mentioned once in the entire Bible. So referencing this supposed fallen planet as a planetary body called Lucifer is perplexing, considering the word is used only once, in the new testament at that.

The society we think is the reality does NOT matter. The only thing that matter is YOU. We all know that the society today is crazy and #ed up. Its idiotic and ill logic. But we cannot change the society by using the same methods as the society is using. By believing we need to riot or write to the congress man or whatever way the society gives you to change, we also believe in the way the society is created. It is much easier then that, but today we are blindfolded by illusions such as Politic, Institutions, Economy and so on. We believe that this is something necessary just for the fact that it is so now. But we fail to see in perspective and time lines, this is just the human on a basic level. We will change in some way, change is the only constant. And all we need to do is to change ourself. By doing that you will realize who you are, you will understand who I am and you will also understand what the universe are. Then you will also see that all is one, and by seeing that you can understand the fact when you are helping someone, you are actually helping yourself.

By being positive at any giving circumstance your experience of life will be positive. This is extremely easy and works instant. This is not something new, but we are starting to forget it more and more. And when you loose the basic, things are starting to flip out. And as a last word, DO NOT BE AFRAID. Fear give birth to fear who gives birth to fear in a all long spiral. This works reversed also.

Estoric Agenda, the film before Kymatica:



And then the meaning of life.







[edit on 24-11-2009 by InOurNature]

This film has the same problem as many, everything and the kitchen sink. A clear simple message would serve much better.
It is inevitable that pulling in so many things there will be things open to misunderstanding, misinterpretations and of course ridicule.
The simple truth of know thyself is lost in all the talk.
Even this film distorts things by asking us to believe that some possibly mythical pre-civilization knew more than we do and we have been duped by 'bloodlines'.
Again it puts the 'fault' outside of self.

Listen to the film if you will but open your own heart.

reply to post by ERAUQS

Yet another rehash of Catholicism. Or another interpretation of the trinity,
I should say. The Ego, Logos & Creation. In other words:

Ego = Son (Jesus, ultimate example of a person who has self-transcended) - or in the Fr. Lonergan system, understanding.

Logos = Holy spirit ("the word became flesh") - or in the Fr. Lonergan system, experience.

Creation = Father (God, the creator) - or in the Fr. Lonergan system, Judgement.

I'm not a Catholic preaching the "word", I'm just a theology student and I'm not an atheist.

What are you talking about?

I tried to summarize some of the topics the videos consists of, in the heading. Those where my words, not from the video. And the way you put it in your post is not how I meant it. There is absolutely nothing Catholic about this, and is not interpreted that way either. In fact it's exactly the opposite.

Did you watch any of this?

Really, the "Ego=Son"

Allow me to set this straight-

e·go (g, g) n. pl. e·gos
1. The self, especially as distinct from the world and other selves.
2. In psychoanalysis, the division of the psyche that is conscious, most immediately controls thought and behavior, and is most in touch with external reality.
3.a. An exaggerated sense of self-importance; conceit.
b. Appropriate pride in oneself; self-esteem.

The rest I'm really not even gonna get into, seriously man.

You really have missed the point in all this. I know that if you did watch any of those vids, there is no way you would have come to the conclusions you did.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
I liked it up until all this "Lucifer" talk .. Lucifer, which in the original text refers to the Christ, and later in the KJV is only mentioned once in the entire Bible. So referencing this supposed fallen planet as a planetary body called Lucifer is perplexing, considering the word is used only once, in the new testament at that.

FYI...the reference to the planet Lucifer was not stated to be found in the bible or by Christianity. The source of this information was interpreted from ancient Summerian Text.


No worries as I can see that the word "Lucifer" would in most instances cause someone to refer to Christianity.

reply to post by Zeta Reticuli

is this relative to the other post regarding the newly discovered DNA code by Russian Scientists?

I will type out some passages for you.

"During the 1990's three nobel laureates in medicine, advanced research that revealed thee primary function of DNA lies not in protein synthesis, as widely believed for the past century, but in electromagnetic energy reception and transmission.

Less that 3% of DNA's function involves protein manufacture. More than 90% functions in the realm of bio acoustic bio-electric signaling. "- Snippet from film.

That was some good stuff.. got stuck and watched them all.

The part about certain languages (part 3 about 8 min in), mostly of the mid east variety, that when spoken... resonate into some crazy frequency that un-locks geometry, or something..

What if the current languages we use, when spoken, resonate outside the frequency we are supposed to generate?? Who is to say there isn't some crazy ancient language that allows our voice and mind to resonate at a frequency that can unlock barriers to our spiritual side?.. like a specific chant that lets us talk to the spirits of dead relatives.

Wouldn't that be the ultimate conspiracy?.. that the elite know our languages are like some wacky out of frequency ancient codes designed to keep us stupid and unaware... there has got to be a sci-fi movie like that out there.

reply to post by RRokkyy

"Your perception is your reality."

According to Adi Da, your sense of perception is not reality but only the avoidance of relationship. You are not perceiving reality but creating your illusion of the separate self.

Well that is exactly my point. What you perceive as real to you, is not necessarily real to someone else, or real at all.

I came to this conclusion while watching the 'rotating woman' (left brain vs right brain test)with my boyfriend. I see her rotating clockwise & he sees her rotating counter-clockwise. Yet, he argues with me that she is not rotating clockwise. I explain to him- "Our brains work differently, they arrange and take in information differently, so you cannot argue with me on this. What I see is real to me, & what you see is real to you. Doesn't mean one of us are wrong."

That was my reason for that phrase, & making it my signature.

reply to post by GovtFlu

The part about certain languages (part 3 about 8 min in), mostly of the mid east variety, that when spoken... resonate into some crazy frequency that un-locks geometry, or something.. What if the current languages we use, when spoken, resonate outside the frequency we are supposed to generate??

Who is to say there isn't some crazy ancient language that allows our voice and mind to resonate at a frequency that can unlock barriers to our spiritual side?.. like a specific chant that lets us talk to the spirits of dead relatives.

Wouldn't that be the ultimate conspiracy?.. that the elite know our languages are like some wacky out of frequency ancient codes designed to keep us stupid and unaware... there has got to be a sci-fi movie like that out there.

You hit the nail on the head there my friend. Our minds are being downplayed-using a simple weapon such as language. This was also the reason why ancient civilizations that practiced Shamanism were destroyed.

What I also find interesting is that children between the age of 3 & 6 years old can learn 3 additional languages at the same time, excluding their home language. Yet, these days children of that age are not taught much apart from shapes and colors! Makes you wonder doesn't it.

The thing is our whole communication has failed. We are no longer able to communicate, we can not express feelings, and to find someone that really understand you is a privilege right now. And this is a product of that we are loosing ourself and our language.



[edit on 25-11-2009 by InOurNature]

reply to post by InOurNature


That was interesting, I watched the next one -"The Aging Paradox" as well.
What I found interesting about that was that our cells regenerate every seven years, so we become a totally new and different person over and over. Pretty Neat.

I really don't see why these videos and the Zeitgeist videos need to get into the whole religious thing, pushing Shamanism and such. Wouldn't these videos be a lot more universal if they just stayed clear of the religious subject?

reply to post by downisreallyup


They are telling you why most of these cultures were destroyed and why. You cannot put Shamanism into the same category as religion. And lets face it, religion is old, older than us but the true Shamans were destroyed because they didn't follow some 'westerners ' view of what religion is...and because they knew too much of what was true and real.

You can't run away from what religion is. It will be a part of us, because it's a part of our past, whether it's true or not.

They are just trying to give you an Idea where it stems from.

"Shamanic ecstasy is the real "Old Time Religion," of which modern churches are but pallid evocations. Shamanic, visionary ecstasy, the mysterium tremendum, the unio mystica, the eternally delightful experience of the universe as energy, is a sine qua non of religion, it is what religion is for! There is no need for faith, it is the ecstatic experience itself that gives one faith in the intrinsic unity and integrity of the universe, in ourselves as integral parts of the whole; that reveals to us the sublime majesty of our universe, and the fluctuant, scintillant, alchemical miracle that is quotidian consciousness. Any religion that requires faith and gives none, that defends against religious experiences, that promulgates the bizarre superstition that humankind is in some way separate, divorced from the rest of creation, that heals not the gaping wound between Body and Soul, but would tear them asunder... is no religion at all!" Jonathan Ott

[edit on 06/10/2009 by jinx880101]

Excellent post! Made me take a good look at myself,through different eyes.