North Eastern OHIO...BLASTED with CHEMTRAILS....HELP!

Okay, you contrail people, what reasons would there be for the same 1-3 jets to fly back and forth across the sky for over 6 hours leaving weird "contrails" that expand and overlap and turn blue skies into a totally hazy or cloudy before someone's very eyes? And what would cause these same planes to repeat this behavior for days, sometimes weeks in a row?

reply to post by ~Lucidity


How are you sure that they're the same planes?

Have you ever tracked these planes on flightaware?

reply to post by Chadwickus

Have you ever tracked these planes on flightaware?

Definetly I have not. Have you Chadwickus? I've not even heard of flight aware.
What's up with all that?
What goes up must come down, it would be great to know where both
were happening. either way normal contrails dissipate aabout a mile
behind the plane.Chemtrails. Streak clear across the skys and seem to never dissipate.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by randyvs]

reply to post by randyvs


Nope I haven't because as far as I know it only covers the US of A.

What it is, is a flight tracking website and may help the above poster (and others) to see if it is the same aircraft flying overhead for 6 hours (they must have a lot of spare time to watch planes for 6 hours) or several different planes.

*Just read your edit, I implore you to check out some of Ozweathermans threads on the subject, you'll see that under the right conditions, contrails will persist... After all, they're in effect just clouds, and just like clouds, contrails will spread out and cover the sky.
The statement that contrails don't persist has come from pro-chemtrail websites spruking their pseudo-science.

[edit on 24/11/09 by Chadwickus]

reply to post by Chadwickus


i was sick and watched the sky with binoculars and a cheap telescope for over a year. same planes. multiple planes. blue skies turned grey. and yes i tried to track them later on that online thing. they weren't there that i could find. the planes were silver, no markings. i have photos (thousands) but my camera isn't that good.

i tried to find the patterns in it, time of year, time of day, into the sun, away from the sun, altitude, approaching weather, and note the changes, but nothing stood out and soon i didn't have as much time to watch again, but i always still notice.

and see THIS is the kind of thing that's so very hard to explain to people who just haven't happened to have that much time on their hands or haven't been watching the skies all their lives (over 45 years) or just make assumptions based on their knowledge base and experiences and ways of rationalizing things, which differ from mine. and since my awakening, i've seen this pattern repeated in many cities i've visited.

and i watch people...people going about their daily activities without ever looking up, and i talk to people, and they say oh i never noticed or aren't they just contrails? and i understand how that could happen too.

i read everything i could find about contrails and chemtrails and neither camp really convinces me, so i go by what i've seen and what i know. i know something is happening i just don't know what it is.

i don't however care to convince anyone. i know what i saw and see. i just don't know the reason for it. my gut usually goes to weather manipulation or shielding us from seeing something more that to poisoning the population, but i'm open to all theories.

reply to post by Chadwickus

What it is, is a flight tracking website and may help the above poster (and others) to see if it is the same aircraft flying overhead for 6 hours (they must have a lot of spare time to watch planes for 6 hours) or several different planes.

Agreed he could not have meant that with any degree of certainty.

Lucidity

i was sick and watched the sky with binoculars and a cheap telescope for over a year. same planes. multiple planes. blue skies turned grey. and yes i tried to track them later on that online thing. they weren't there that i could find. the planes were silver, no markings. i have photos (thousands) but my camera isn't that good

I stand corrected.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by randyvs]

I am an Air Traffic Controller for 13 years now and I can assure you that aircraft are not just flying back and forth spraying chemicals into the air.

One exception would be cloud seeding. Where numerous light fixed-wing aircraft will fly around a thunderhead with hail in it and spray the cloud to turn the hail into rain so that the farmers crops dont get damaged.

en.wikipedia.org...

It is funny to me that so many people believe this bullcrap. Anyone out there with any experiece in the aviation industry dealing with aircraft operations (such as controllers) will tell you its just not true....

Contrails can last for hours at a time and can even be produced by prop driven aircraft.

Thats what you are seeing.. Either that, pollution or clouds.

The end.



[edit on 24-11-2009 by ATC_GOD]

reply to post by ATC_GOD

It is funny to me that so many people believe this bullcrap. Anyone out there with any experiece in the aviation industry dealing with aircraft operations (such as controllers) will tell you its just not true....

Did you look at the video?

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Sorry to hear about your sickness, it sounds like you had a lot of downtime.

Did you notice a change in weather after seeing the trails in the sky at all?

Cant watch here at work. It doesnt really matter what it says though.. I have worked in 8 different Radar approach control facilities that covered hundreds of thousands of square miles of airspace combined in 4 different countries including the US.

And I am telling you that its not happening other than what I mentioned above.

Waht I and Many others think :

The Chemtrails have to do with the Global Warming agenda and they are destroing animal life and the vegitation.

The trees gets sick and dont convert Co2 to Oxygene and the tests will show that there is an increase in Co2 (Those Bastards) and it kills the Corals too. Not Manmade hogwash GW, aint no SUCH THING !!!!

I ain't debating it no more, case is closed.......

They say it is for cloudseeding to battle the heat, Hogwash since there are now SOLID EVIDENCE it is nothing more than a FRUAD and therfor the Cloudseeding is a FRUAD, it is therfor used for another purpose, See above.. NO , sont come say I tought they spread diseases, yes, you can fill a spraycan with waht ever you like ..... Simple ...

Just read about the destruction of the Photosynthesis, the Trees are dying off and Chad wants to waste our time talking about Water ...

i post this YT, she explains it easier with words rather than my clumpsy typing..


[edit on 24/11/2009 by ChemBreather]

reply to post by Chadwickus

*Just read your edit, I implore you to check out some of Ozweathermans threads on the subject, you'll see that under the right conditions, contrails will persist... After all, they're in effect just clouds, and just like clouds, contrails will spread out and cover the sky.

I straight out disagree with that statement, "contrails are just clouds".
Contrails are formed by ice particles on the wings thats why they dissipste about a mile behind the plane.
In the video you can clearly see them turning them off and on.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by randyvs]

reply to post by Chadwickus

Not really other than what should have been blue skies turning grey muck everyday. However, a gut observation, looking back now, was that drought appeared to have settled in on this region at about the same time, when this all started back in the late 90s and early 00s...almost as if whatever this was was repelling the normal weather pattern of the prior 15 years.

Originally posted by ATC_GOD
Cant watch here at work. It doesnt really matter what it says though.. I have worked in 8 different Radar approach control facilities that covered hundreds of thousands of square miles of airspace combined in 4 different countries including the US.

And I am telling you that its not happening other than what I mentioned above.

I don't happen to believe you. I know what I saw and I can live with you not believing me.

Contrails are clouds of ice particles formed around the small particles (aerosols) which are in aircraft exhaust. When these persist after the passage of the plane they are of great interest to researchers. Under the right conditions, clouds initiated by passing aircraft can spread with time to cover the whole sky.

asd-www.larc.nasa.gov...



[edit on 24-11-2009 by ATC_GOD]

reply to post by ChemBreather


Let me throw yet another wrench into the gears. All the sudden and mysterious deaths of birds? And fish? And bees? Flocks just dropping from the skies. Just things that make you wonder.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by ChemBreather

 

Let me throw yet another wrench into the gears. All the sudden and mysterious deaths of birds? And fish? And bees? Flocks just dropping from the skies. Just things that make you wonder.

Yes, and they are going for our food big time, Pig, fish, cow, all of the sudden all our Food are sick and must be Killed ?? Woops..
I say Agenda 21 again , it all goes to the removal of humans from the planet.. Yea, Im wacko !!

reply to post by ATC_GOD

Cant watch here at work. It doesnt really matter what it says though.. I have worked in 8 different Radar approach control facilities that covered hundreds of thousands of square miles of airspace combined in 4 different countries including the US

Your professionalism is not under scrutiny be any means .Glad to have you in this debate.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by randyvs]

Originally posted by randyvs
I straight out disagree with that statement, "contrails are just clouds".

You're mis-quoting me here, I said that contrails are in effect just clouds. Water vapour clinging to particulates coming from the exhaust.

Contrails are formed by ice particles on the wings thats why they dissipste about a mile behind the plane.
In the video you can clearly see them turning them off and on.

The turning on and off is due to variances in air pressure, temperature, humidity etc etc.

Did you know ships can leave contrails too?

reply to post by Chadwickus

You're mis-quoting me here, I said that contrails are in effect just clouds. Water vapour clinging to particulates coming from the exhaust

Very well then my bad. Apologies.

Did you know ships can leave contrails too?

Well no and boats don't make themselves as prevailent.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by randyvs]