Galactic Government

Originally posted by seircram

First of all, you could run this "knowledge" through your own "Discernment and Validation" protocols... as in, what makes you think this info. is correct?

Indeed, may one ask what your protocols are? And, your source?

There is no "United Federation of Planets"... There IS a "Galactic Federation of Planets", however, and the Galactic Federation of Light is their fleet.

According to my source there is neither a "United Federation of Planets", nor a "Galactic Federation of Planets"

There is a "Galactic Council", however that is a name used only on Earth, and will have to serve for now since I doubt I could translate the real name.

Contrary to what some believe, the Council of Light is actually a member of the GFoL, not the other way around. There is an Ashtar Command, but they are independent and are not a member of the GFoL (last I heard they were considering it).

This is "New Age" philosophical jargon. Within this physical Universe, there is neither a "Council of Light", nor a "Galactic Federation of Light". These are merely term made up by Humans who are not adept at communication with off-world entities, or have been communicating with lower-plane beings.

The "Ashtar COmmand" as I've been told is a sort of "breakaway group" formed by Consortium and Zetas with the true intent to interfere with Earth's integration into the Stellar Community.

The Pleiadians are loners. They do not belong to the Federation. Their motto is "Truth". They and their home planet were one of the first species to be "created" in this Universe. They have members in the 5th thru the 9th Dimensions (and beyond).

The pleiadians are anything but loners. The Pleiadians, actually a species of Humanoids similar in appearance to Humans, are at the forefront of what may be termed the "Pleiadian Federation". This Federation is a group of some 124+ different species forming a "collective/Federation" for the common good.

There are others along for the ride (as in, once global First Contact happens, this is the "OK" for other ET races to say "Hi") including the Annunaki, the Andromedans and the Lizard People/Reptilians, but these are not the groups I would be trying to find "Enlightenment" from. You want races who are "of the Light" not "of the Dark" or "Neutral". (Do a Google search on "First Contract Protocols" and see what I mean.)

Annunaki, are the ancient Gods of Summeria, and the species that destroyed the Lyran homeworld. These "people" are currently in control of Earth, and likely have the intent of enslaving Humanity.

The Andromedans; Real Andromedans, Galactic Andromedans, more properly called "Andromds" are near Earth at the request of the Galactic Council and the Pleiadian Federation. Their purpose is to observe and provide assistance in the endeavors to integrate Earth into the Stellar Community. The Andromd are a species much older than the Pleiadians, and are respected within a 7 Galaxy cluster as defenders of "truth and light". The Andromd Empire or Collective is a collection of several thousand species, with genetic "Andromds" at the forefront. They originate in the Galaxy of Andromeda.

The Lizard People/Reptilians; Add to this the Greys...the Alpha Draconian species is at the head of the Zetan Empire. This collection of several 10's of species are a collective owned by the Alpha Draconian's and it serves only the desires and intent of the Alpha Draconians.

My protocols for collecting this information: I trust only those my mother says I can trust. My Mother is D'Arna-Shat, the alpha female of the Andromd People and it is she that manages all my off-world contacts. Nearly all communication occurs via telepathy, though some of it is face to face.

I can not stress this enough...Humans must be very descerning in their contacts with off-worlders, or those who would say they are off-worlders. Please do not trust those who would "channel" this kind of information. Channeling is an uncontrolled attempt to communicate, and because of the lack of controls it can also be quite dangerous.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Relating it to any names in English would not be possible without a star map. So, while I might be able to show you, I wouldn't be able to give you a written or verbal name or list.

Delighted that you would be able to do that. Surely, many will find this information intriguing. Below is a map with coordinates, ask if you find it hard to interpret; it should be easy enough tho. Just pick up the nearest stars according the grid of the coordinates. For example, "it is a star in gridbox AJ24".

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/be53f497f4b0fa55.jpg[/atsimg]

-v

[edit on 25-11-2009 by v01i0]

So I guess we're just gonna skip over my question?

How do we know you are legit? This all seems very fanciful and frankly I am curious as to how we know you are for real

-Kyo

Originally posted by TheNetherlands
We did replace them, time and time again. We replace them for other people, people who promise peace and freedoms.
And then it turns out that we got deceived, AGAIN, and the new guy or girl is just as bad, if not even more bad than the guy he replaces.

Yes, I've seen it happen time and time again over the past 60 years. There is only one solution to the problem, REPLACE THEM. After a while, perhaps a decade or so, people will get the message..."do you job, or loose it".

It also seems that many, when voting for someone, choose "the lesser of two evils". This is not a proper way to conduct business. You also need to get candidates who are going to do the right thing...and typically not just anyone will do. You might start looking at the guy who doesn't want the job.

So if this is true than why would we need disclosure to ask for interference?
Lots of people know of the existence of ET's and those people all have asked for interference. We can ask by telephaty. Isnt that what your friends from outer space always teach us? That everything works by thoughts and intentions? So suddenly, if it serves them right, asking for interference with the power of thought doenst count anymore? I mean come on!

You need disclosure to make it official.

Many people know of ET, and many more "think" they know of ET. But, this does not count as "disclosure" ET hasn't been formally introduced to the people of Earth. You need to have some group, that properly repersents the people of Earth make the requests. Formation of such a group, isn't likely to happen without some level of disclosure. Further, it would be best if the members were elected to such a position.

And if it doesnt count for the entire humanity then i would like to be picked up by one of those ships so i can leave this hellhole. What i ask for must surely be enough to count for me myself? Tell your friends to get me off of here. There is more important things to do out there than just sit on Earth waiting for the next thing our world leaders do to us that only a devil would think of doing.

[edit on 24/11/09 by TheNetherlands]

I do understand your plight, you are in a "Catch-22" situation. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. The only real solution to this is to "do". You need to find the strength to stand up to overwhelming force and make them do the right things.

I'm sorry there is no easy way to say these things. But, do you really think that a few thousand "evil doers" can stand up to 6 billion of you?

Etharzi od Oma.

reply to post by v01i0


I'm sorry, I'm not going to fall into that trap, even if it is not intended as a trap.

Here is what I think is the Federation's "government planet":
Psi Tauri, in the Taurus constallation, notes: Psi Tau, HR 1269, HD 25867

This may not be entirely correct, your "star maps" are not like those I've seen off-world. Yours are 2 dimensional, theirs are 3 dimensional.

Etharzi od Oma.

Originally posted by KyoZero
So I guess we're just gonna skip over my question?

How do we know you are legit? This all seems very fanciful and frankly I am curious as to how we know you are for real

-Kyo

I've answered your question...but to reiterate: You don't. But you can ask yourself; WHat does this guy have to gain? And, if you come up with something you don't like...

Etharzi od Oma.

Dunno why it's not mentioned but this is pretty much an extension of the thread he began on Open Minds Forum months ago.

lucianarchy.proboards.com...

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Previously you said you'd be able to show them on map, now you are sayin' that this is a trap - look how well do I rap?

Being serious, why do you claim that it is a trap, even unintentional?

-v

Antra, is there some thread somewhere about your experiences? Im not saying i belive you are really an alien, but its always interesting to read peoples experiences and contacts with supposed aliens

Originally posted by v01i0
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Previously you said you'd be able to show them on map, now you are sayin' that this is a trap - look how well do I rap?

Being serious, why do you claim that it is a trap, even unintentional?

-v

I've learned, the hard way, to be very wery of Human comments and questions. I'm not saying that its a trap, but the capacity is there.

It is a trap because I created a situation where not providing correct information could come back to "bite" me. For instance, when I refere to Pleiadians, and their home world, I'm refering to the Federation's "Government Planet", which is not in the Pleiades stargroup, but rather in the Tarus constallation, about 90 light years from Earth.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by TheNetherlands
Antra, is there some thread somewhere about your experiences? Im not saying i belive you are really an alien, but its always interesting to read peoples experiences and contacts with supposed aliens

Not much...What I will do is post some of my personal history on my website over the next few weeks.

Etharzi od Oma.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


OK, so you are avoiding to provide the information that could show your case false once and for all. A clever thing to do, if you are playing such game. You asked one of the previous posters who were questioning your credibility, that we shall have no proof other than your word; furthermore you asked that what would you gain by lying? I'd say you'd gain exactly the same things that all the liars hope to gain: Some goal which you think that you wouldn't gain in honest means, maybe it is attention, maybe something else.

Well, it seems that you have provided sufficient information for critical mind to determine where you come from. So excuse me if people find it hard to believe your story for it seems to have a lot of inconsistencies. some of these are provided below:

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by v01i0

 

Here is what I think is the Federation's "government planet":
Psi Tauri, in the Taurus constallation, notes: Psi Tau, HR 1269, HD 25867

Yes, that is accurate information, psi Tau has two identifiers: HR1269 and HD25867, quite exactly 90 LY from Sol, star of specral class F1V, meaning probably a white star:

Class F stars have strengthening H and K lines of Ca II. Neutral metals (Fe I, Cr I) beginning to gain on ionized metal lines by late F. Their spectra are characterized by the weaker hydrogen lines and ionized metals. Their color is white. About 1 in 33 of the main sequence stars in the solar neighborhood are Class F stars.

Source.

It is also probably slightly more hot than type G suns, which are yellow stars like ours, and more suitable for life as we understand it. Also K types which are orange stars, might be very well suitable for life:

Class K are orangish stars which are slightly cooler than our Sun. Some K stars are giants and supergiants, such as Arcturus, while orange dwarfs, like Alpha Centauri B, are main sequence stars. They have extremely weak hydrogen lines, if they are present at all, and mostly neutral metals (Mn I, Fe I, Si I). By late K, molecular bands of titanium oxide become present. About 1 in 8 of the main sequence stars in the solar neighborhood are Class K stars.[nb 1][12] There is a suggestion that K Spectrum stars are very well suited for life.

Source.

Considering, that the psi Tau is type F planet and there are no exoplanets according to our knowledge, it is hard to believe it is a home for advanced civilization - but then again, they may govern from a space station, or the planet is invisible

Also, when considering some hypotheses of various types of civilizations, it is suggested that there are 3 levels of civilizations according to Nikolai Kardashev:

Type I — a civilization that is able to harness all of the power available on a single planet — has approximately 1016 or 1017 W available.[2] Earth specifically has an available power of 1.74 × 1017 W (174 petawatts, see Earth's energy budget). Kardashev's original definition was 4 × 1012 W — a "technological level close to the level presently attained on earth" ("presently" meaning 1964).[3]

Type II — a civilization that is able to harness all of the power available from a single star, approximately 4 × 1026 W.[2] Again, this figure is variable; the Sun outputs approximately 3.86 × 1026 W. Kardashev's original definition was also 4 × 1026 W.[3]

Type III — a civilization that is able to harness all of the power available from a single galaxy, approximately 4 × 1037 W.[2] This figure is extremely variable, since galaxies vary widely in size; the stated figure is the approximate power output of the Milky Way. Kardashev's original definition was also 4 × 1037 W.[3]

I think we might be able observing such use of energy if it would occur near to us. Basically, to harvest the energy of the sun one would need a Dyson sphere or similiar superstructure.

Okay, whether an alien or not it has been a nice exchance of information. For your own sake, I hope that you are not lying and that my suspicions are incorrect. I wish you all the best.

-v

[edit on 26-11-2009 by v01i0]

I guess this would prove to everyone without any doubt you are the real deal:

I read that it was said Anthra was still a child compared to normal Andromds, I also read that you were a retired Software engineer 62 year old.

now I’m guessing then Andromds live to be older than 100, so if you are still a child in their eyes, if you are a human and not an ET I bet you would look like a 62 year old man, if you were a Et species that lived to be 100's of years old I would said you would age slower than the rest of us, hence if you posted a picture of yourself and you are young and 62 years old then that’s proof, if you are 62 and look like a 62 year old then that would prove this is all made up.

Some other points:

The world is so # right now that people want to believe there is more, that’s why I think people want to believe you

What do I get out of this? Was a good question you asked yourself in earlier post, I worked with a guy (web link to news story will follow) who was to be honest a nobody, he invented this story that he was a war hero
and he had detailed facts and stories that were impressive to hear, since I worked with this guy I got the chance to ask alot of questions he answered them all no bother, he had convinced himself and others this was all true, of course he made it all up, he was in shock after it came out he was a fake as if he couldn’t believe it,

a few years passed he was sorry blah blah blah he now pretends he is a world famous magician ....again he is convinced this is true.

What i'm saying is this thread could just the same, proof would be if you post a picture on your Facebook site showing us a young 62 year old man.

thanks for reading, here are the links I was talking about earlier

www.xtimeline.com...


www.guardian.co.uk...


www.telegraph.co.uk...

well this post kinda died with no answers

I can't believe I missed this thread. Thank you. Yes, the ple'o'sha'ns are the pleidians.

So Im guessing no more questions will be answered? This topic was getting very interesting to say the least.

Just wondering if they are so far advanced why do they use government systems that we have abandoned long ago?

READ THIS POST

This is the new skin for the Galactic federation of light. or GFL.
Rememeber them?

This is all about people "channeling" messages from space and is new age BS.
not based on ANY science or any real observations of planets.

The new name for them is this:

The Galactic Council"

Remember that name. same sh** different day.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.atheneraefiel.com...
lucianarchy.proboards.com...
lightworkers.org...

found this one interesting.
this link:
council.celestialprime.org...

led me to a science fiction writers page. dedicated to creating a real world role playing game..is this where it all stems from?
www.celestialprime.org...

Thought you should know, before they start talking about the ships coming to earth, on a certain date, and then it turning out to be a load of bull crap pyramid scheme online cult. where only the people at the top win

In the end only the people spreading the "channeled messages" win. and make money from it all. Cant you see? its a con. it's not real.
These people are the same guys as the GFL.

[edit on 4-5-2010 by MR BOB]

Originally posted by MR BOB

READ THIS POST

This is the new skin for the Galactic federation of light. or GFL.
Rememeber them?

This is all about people "channeling" messages from space and is new age BS.
not based on ANY science or any real observations of planets.

Sorry Mr. Bob, but NO CHANNELERS here! All of the information I have was given me by either my mother, or a representative of the Pleiadean government while I was in their presense ... off-world. Thats not to say that some of the info I get isn't communicated via telepathy, but, much of it is "first hand".

Oh, and at the end of the day ... I gain nothing from any of this.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by MR BOB


This "Roleplaying game" site was made in 2007, bro. The most recent update took place in Feb 2010

web.archive.org...*/www.celestialprime.org...

web.archive.org...*/celestialprime.org/*

I seriously doubt this new age stuff made its debut in 2007, as there are new age material that showed up in websites way before 2007.

www.paoweb.com...
www.nibiruancouncil.com...

^ Two examples that prove that there have been material that did not stem from a game, but the game stems from sites like these. Still not convinced?

web.archive.org...*/paoweb.com...
web.archive.org...*/www.nibiruancouncil.com...

Edit: Try copy and pasting the entire link because the asterisks tend to break them into two links.

[edit on 5-5-2010 by street_fighter]

[edit on 5-5-2010 by street_fighter]