Galactic Government

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Thanks for the reply but no offense, when you start talking about mind talking with alien governments that is when you lose me.

Originally posted by TheNetherlands
But, there is outside interference, isnt it? Grey's? Reptillians?

And i agree, we must decide to do something against the way we are treated by our world leaders. But, we cant. Its impossible. You wont find any people that will stand up against governments and reform the world. And even if you find them, you cant fight the army's those world leaders have control over. Or the other technology's and agency's

Yes there is a great deal of influence from the Zetan Empire right now, but is it technically interference? If they are invited, or they enticed a Terrestrial government, and have some sort of arrangement, then technically it isn't interference. That doesn't make it right, but it does make it legal.

There are only two "entities" that can stop this. The people of Earth, and the Federation. The federation are very strice with their protocols, and won't do anything until the people of Earth ask. The people of Earth can't properly ask until there has been some level of disclosure. This disclosure must contain disclosure of alien life. The problem is that the Zetas know this and will do what they to delay or prevent disclosure.

You can do something about your world leaders; you can replace them...thats what elections are for. It may take a massive "grassroots" movement, but it can be done. You need to find people who are not afraid to put their life on the line for Earth, and then have the strength to follow through. Its not going to be easy, but it is possible.

Etharzi od Oma.

Originally posted by zaiger
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Thanks for the reply but no offense, when you start talking about mind talking with alien governments that is when you lose me.

How so?

I wish there was another way, but,people from the federation don't seem to "see" any difference between verbal speech (sound) and telepathy. I know how frustrating that is.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by TheNetherlands
But, there is outside interference, isnt it? Grey's? Reptillians?

And i agree, we must decide to do something against the way we are treated by our world leaders. But, we cant. Its impossible. You wont find any people that will stand up against governments and reform the world. And even if you find them, you cant fight the army's those world leaders have control over. Or the other technology's and agency's

Yes there is a great deal of influence from the Zetan Empire right now, but is it technically interference? If they are invited, or they enticed a Terrestrial government, and have some sort of arrangement, then technically it isn't interference. That doesn't make it right, but it does make it legal.

There are only two "entities" that can stop this. The people of Earth, and the Federation. The federation are very strice with their protocols, and won't do anything until the people of Earth ask. The people of Earth can't properly ask until there has been some level of disclosure. This disclosure must contain disclosure of alien life. The problem is that the Zetas know this and will do what they to delay or prevent disclosure.

You can do something about your world leaders; you can replace them...thats what elections are for. It may take a massive "grassroots" movement, but it can be done. You need to find people who are not afraid to put their life on the line for Earth, and then have the strength to follow through. Its not going to be easy, but it is possible.

Etharzi od Oma.

We did replace them, time and time again. We replace them for other people, people who promise peace and freedoms.
And then it turns out that we got deceived, AGAIN, and the new guy or girl is just as bad, if not even more bad than the guy he replaces.

And, we did ask for interference, we did ask for help.
We dont need disclosure to properly ask for it.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
people from the federation don't seem to "see" any difference between verbal speech (sound) and telepathy. I know how frustrating that is.

Etharzi od Oma

So if this is true than why would we need disclosure to ask for interference?
Lots of people know of the existence of ET's and those people all have asked for interference. We can ask by telephaty. Isnt that what your friends from outer space always teach us? That everything works by thoughts and intentions? So suddenly, if it serves them right, asking for interference with the power of thought doenst count anymore? I mean come on!

And if it doesnt count for the entire humanity then i would like to be picked up by one of those ships so i can leave this hellhole. What i ask for must surely be enough to count for me myself? Tell your friends to get me off of here. There is more important things to do out there than just sit on Earth waiting for the next thing our world leaders do to us that only a devil would think of doing.

[edit on 24/11/09 by TheNetherlands]

Man I know this phrase is thrown out a ton...but how do we know you are serious?

This sounds very fantastical to me what with the mind liink that most people have trouble with.

Why did they pick you? How do we know you are honest here?

-Kyo

Can you tell us a little bit about the methods of how the representatives of galactic federation travels the vast distances of space? And more importantly, can you tell what stars exactly on pleiades constellation have planets that are part of the federation?

One has to assume that you should have preceding information, unless you are somehow objected to tell us?

-v

[edit on 24-11-2009 by v01i0]

reply to post by v01i0


You see that is hard because they do not "live" in that area their mind beings take up an area that we would understand as the star system you mentioned. They are in fact in another dimensions in another time which is the time of the star dimension.
Expect an answer like that...
Sorry OP, no ill feelings i just call them like i see them.

reply to post by zaiger


While respecting your view of it, the guestion was appointed to the OP, with whom you seem to be in disagreement about certain aspects. We'll see what the OP replies, if replies.

So, out of interest, are you an alien by yourself, or do you have a personal experience about 'plejadians'? I don't have, neither I do have experiences of alternative 'dimensions', hence the astonishment.

-v

Keep on thinking in limited ways and you are correct.
you will not be able to communicate with et's. You will never understand their technology and you will feel secure in your correctness.

Or take a leap outside the box, it won't hurt you and you never know what wonders you might experience.

Just my opinion.

Typo

[edit on 24-11-2009 by cindymars]

reply to post by cindymars

Originally posted by cindymars
Keep on thinking in limited ways and you are correct.
you will not be able to communicate with et's. You will never understand their technology and you will feel secure in your correctness.

Or take a leap outside the box, it won't hurt you and you never know what wonders you might experience.
[edit on 24-11-2009 by cindymars]

I am fine where I am, thanks - you seem to be fine in your superiority, where a mundane being like myself cannot enter.

You might want to tell, what it takes actually to 'leap outside the box'?

-v

[edit on 24-11-2009 by v01i0]

reply to post by v01i0


Well first off darling I was not talking to you, guess I should have replied to zaiger.

Yep I do have a bit of a superiority issue as many do on ATS. Does not mean I am.

So now I will wait to be insulted by zaiger, at least I will desrve it from him as it were he that I was addressing.

Edited to add: My apologies to v01i0.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by cindymars]

Originally posted by v01i0
Can you tell us a little bit about the methods of how the representatives of galactic federation travels the vast distances of space? And more importantly, can you tell what stars exactly on pleiades constellation have planets that are part of the federation?

One has to assume that you should have preceding information, unless you are somehow objected to tell us?

-v

[edit on 24-11-2009 by v01i0]

The names I've heard have all been in either the language of the Federation representative I was talking to, or in the language of my people. Relating it to any names in English would not be possible without a star map. So, while I might be able to show you, I wouldn't be able to give you a written or verbal name or list.

How do they cover such large distances? Well, first of all, I've gotten to the point where I don't consider 90 light years a large distance. However, they use starships. These ships typically have something like Star Trek's warp drive...the drive systems literally warp space to allow for for faster than light movement. You need to understand, however, that within the "warp bubble" the ship is not moving faster than light, but the "bubble" itself is. Using this technology they can travel those 90 light years in a few hours.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by zaiger
reply to post by v01i0

 

You see that is hard because they do not "live" in that area their mind beings take up an area that we would understand as the star system you mentioned. They are in fact in another dimensions in another time which is the time of the star dimension.
Expect an answer like that...
Sorry OP, no ill feelings i just call them like i see them.

So...who said they are extra-dimensional beings? It wasn't I. These "beings" that I speak of and talk to are every bit as physical aa you or I, or any of the other 6 billion on this planet. To think that they might be extra-dimensional is ludicrous. IF, there are beings in any of the other 7 dimensions of space, it wouldn't be very likely that could interact effectively with us here.

The whole idea of another time is equally as ludicrous. There is no technology that I am aware of that can create such a temporal "gate" to allow free movement in time. And, even IF there was, movement would be neccessarily limited.

SO, the use of telepathy to communicate with these beings is very feasible. These beings are in the same space-time as we are, just removed by distance, and not limited by communication bandwidth.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by KyoZero
Man I know this phrase is thrown out a ton...but how do we know you are serious?

You don't. And you probably won't unless you get to know me. You only have my "word".

This sounds very fantastical to me what with the mind liink that most people have trouble with.

Humans have trouble with telepathy, mostly due to social pressure to supress the ability, and lack of training. Other species seem to use telepathy as a normal means of communication.

Why did they pick you? How do we know you are honest here?

-Kyo

Why did they select me? Good question, wish I had a good answer. Probably convenience...I'm here, can communicate, know humans fairly well...

Etharzi od Oma

Galactic Federation, Plaedians... When I saw Billy Miers' ex-wife explain how one of his photos of a ship contained their trash can lid, he and any of his evidence lost all credibility for me. Those channeling with what they believe are plaedians or relative beings should consider that they may be communicating with entities that are lying to them, perhaps enticing them to open their minds further to eventually possess them or work through them using their lies to entice more people to "tune in to their frequency" or open more minds to their possession or influence.

Originally posted by 2compelled
Galactic Federation, Plaedians... When I saw Billy Miers' ex-wife explain how one of his photos of a ship contained their trash can lid, he and any of his evidence lost all credibility for me. Those channeling with what they believe are plaedians or relative beings should consider that they may be communicating with entities that are lying to them, perhaps enticing them to open their minds further to eventually possess them or work through them using their lies to entice more people to "tune in to their frequency" or open more minds to their possession or influence.

Yes, I know about the Miers case, and the wonderful job of discredting him that was done.

I held, in my hand, a metal sample from one of the spacecraft that visited Miers, and read the report on its composition compiled by Dr. Marcel Vogel, Then Marcel explained the report to a whole group of us.

Anyway...I can assure that there is absolutely no possibility of possession with me.

And, that the information I have is not channeled, and is from verified sources.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by cindymars
That is interesting Anthra.

How can we apply this knowlege?

S&F

First of all, you could run this "knowledge" through your own "Discernment and Validation" protocols... as in, what makes you think this info. is correct?

There is no "United Federation of Planets"... There IS a "Galactic Federation of Planets", however, and the Galactic Federation of Light is their fleet.

Contrary to what some believe, the Council of Light is actually a member of the GFoL, not the other way around. There is an Ashtar Command, but they are independent and are not a member of the GFoL (last I heard they were considering it).

The Pleiadians are loners. They do not belong to the Federation. Their motto is "Truth". They and their home planet were one of the first species to be "created" in this Universe. They have members in the 5th thru the 9th Dimensions (and beyond).

The only information to be put to "good use" is that the GFoL is the only "organization" that has "official" status for Divine Intervention in regards to Earth, its human inhabitants and 2012.

There are others along for the ride (as in, once global First Contact happens, this is the "OK" for other ET races to say "Hi") including the Annunaki, the Andromedans and the Lizard People/Reptilians, but these are not the groups I would be trying to find "Enlightenment" from. You want races who are "of the Light" not "of the Dark" or "Neutral". (Do a Google search on "First Contract Protocols" and see what I mean.)

reply to post by seircram


Thank you, I appreciate your advice, but I only follow my own council.
Not Antra, ET-Man, Ashtar or any others. I am open to what they have to say but am guided by my own direct experience.

All are possibly true and possibly false depending on who your talking to.

Peace to you!

I am not familiar with any source that confirms people are communicating with E.T.'s. Please elaborate. I will consider this theory: Billy Miers had contact and some of what he said and showed was real. Then it stopped. Frustrated with no new evidence to keep his hungry believers satisfied, he began to fabricate. After all, he'd practically created a new religion. Years later, people who didn't cross reference their information would be unwittingly consumed by New Age philosophies that were structured on his stories, but by then, had been contorted into a message to abandon all belief systems and open their mind to the influence of unknown entities.

AnthraAndromda,

You have replied to many posts beneath mine, on this page. Why wont you reply to me? In case you just didnt read, i will quoute myself, please reply this time.

Originally posted by TheNetherlands

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by TheNetherlands
But, there is outside interference, isnt it? Grey's? Reptillians?

And i agree, we must decide to do something against the way we are treated by our world leaders. But, we cant. Its impossible. You wont find any people that will stand up against governments and reform the world. And even if you find them, you cant fight the army's those world leaders have control over. Or the other technology's and agency's

Yes there is a great deal of influence from the Zetan Empire right now, but is it technically interference? If they are invited, or they enticed a Terrestrial government, and have some sort of arrangement, then technically it isn't interference. That doesn't make it right, but it does make it legal.

There are only two "entities" that can stop this. The people of Earth, and the Federation. The federation are very strice with their protocols, and won't do anything until the people of Earth ask. The people of Earth can't properly ask until there has been some level of disclosure. This disclosure must contain disclosure of alien life. The problem is that the Zetas know this and will do what they to delay or prevent disclosure.

You can do something about your world leaders; you can replace them...thats what elections are for. It may take a massive "grassroots" movement, but it can be done. You need to find people who are not afraid to put their life on the line for Earth, and then have the strength to follow through. Its not going to be easy, but it is possible.

Etharzi od Oma.

We did replace them, time and time again. We replace them for other people, people who promise peace and freedoms.
And then it turns out that we got deceived, AGAIN, and the new guy or girl is just as bad, if not even more bad than the guy he replaces.

And, we did ask for interference, we did ask for help.
We dont need disclosure to properly ask for it.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
people from the federation don't seem to "see" any difference between verbal speech (sound) and telepathy. I know how frustrating that is.

Etharzi od Oma

So if this is true than why would we need disclosure to ask for interference?
Lots of people know of the existence of ET's and those people all have asked for interference. We can ask by telephaty. Isnt that what your friends from outer space always teach us? That everything works by thoughts and intentions? So suddenly, if it serves them right, asking for interference with the power of thought doenst count anymore? I mean come on!

And if it doesnt count for the entire humanity then i would like to be picked up by one of those ships so i can leave this hellhole. What i ask for must surely be enough to count for me myself? Tell your friends to get me off of here. There is more important things to do out there than just sit on Earth waiting for the next thing our world leaders do to us that only a devil would think of doing.

[edit on 24/11/09 by TheNetherlands]