Oil is not of fossil origin and is inexhaustible

I found this article to be extremely interesting and wanted to share with you as it shows us a very possible scenario of where does the oil really comes. I believe more in this oil explanation than the actual one. The article was translated from Portuguese so be aware of some mistakes in the sentences.
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-We were always told that oil is a fossil fuel, which arose 500 million years, originating in the decomposition of dead plants and animals. Remains of bodies have been trapped on the seabed in a layer of mud and covered by other layers of soil, formed over time the oil.

We were always told that the sun's energy is captured by living things and that we can release this stored energy back hundreds of millions of years by burning oil.

We are told that the reserves of fossil fuels, especially oil, will last at most until about 2060.

Another factor, in addition to the depletion of oil, is the moment when oil production reaches its peak, they begin to decrease. The peak of oil extraction is called "Peak Oil" [Peak Oil]. Is in fuction of this that the supply and demand varies and can have a crucial role in oil prices.

The peak of oil extraction or "Peak Oil" is the moment when the rate of oil extraction reaches its absolute maximum in all oil fields. This moment is reached when it has been extracted half of all oil that can be exploited.

Peak Oil

It is stated that the point of maximum extraction has been achieved in the past and we will against an energy crisis. The proof of this assertion, we are told, is the continued increase of oil prices of $ 25 a barrel in 2002 to $ 134 on 6/6/2008 (this article was written on this date).

For this reason, we are told that the expected energy gap should be resolved through less consumption and demand for other alternatives, such as renewable energy. We leave the oil as soon as possible because it will end soon.

We are saying that oil was formed hundreds of millions of years, which exists in a fixed amount, and when we have extracted the last drop, will be finished forever the era of oil.

But what would happen if all this story has no foundation and it is all a myth? What if the fuel oil was not produced from fossil fuels, does not spring from extinct organisms, but was otherwise? And if the oil, after all, exists in abundance and continues to be formed continuously over the earth? And if there is no energy crisis and no "Peak Oil"?

Peak Oil is Here

The statement that there would be a peak in oil extraction was reported in a panic, already in 1919, although that time has not yet called "Peak Oil" (this is only a new label). At that time, it was claimed by the "experts" that oil would not arrive for the next 20 years. What happened in reality? Since then, the date upon which the oil has always been driven to the future, and today, 90 years later, we still have oil, but the extraction and consumption have been increasing every year.

The Oil Abiótico (not fossil)

Where did, after all, the story of that oil would have come from fossils of living organisms and would therefore biotic? Russian geologist Mikhail Lomonosov had this idea for the first time in 1757: "The oil comes from small bodies of animals and plants, enclosed in sediments under high pressure and temperature are transformed into oil after an unthinkable". We do not know what observations led him to say this, only this theory has never been confirmed and is accepted without evidence for over 200 years and taught in universities.

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But we never found fossils of animals or plants in oil reserves. This lack of evidence shows that the theory of fossil fuel is only a belief without any scientific basis. Geologists that spread the theory of fossil fuel, still have not submitted any proof of the transformation of bodies in oil.

One of the elements present on earth in our solar system is carbon. We human beings are formed largely of carbon, as well as all other creatures and plants on the planet. And in at least 10 planets and moons of our solar system were found large quantities of oil, the basis for oil.

The Cassini spacecraft discovered when passing near Titan, Saturn's moon, it is filled with liquid hydrocarbons. But there is no life there to produce the oil, they must be the result of some other chemical processing. Due to its particular configuration atomic carbon has the ability to form complex molecules and features, among all the chemical elements, the greater complexity of chemical bonds.



Here on Earth, the continental plates floating on an unimaginable amount of hydrocarbons. Deep in the Earth's mantle appear, under certain temperature, pressure and appropriate conditions, large quantities of hydrocarbons. The limestone is transformed into an inorganic chemical process. The resulting hydrocarbons are lighter than the layers of soil and sedimentary rock, so go up through the cracks of the earth and build up in layers of impermeable crust.

The hot magma is the supplier of energy to this geological phenomenon. The result gives the name of abiotic oil, because it arose not from the decomposition of biological forms of life, but by a chemical process inside the Earth. And this process happens continuously. The oil is produced continuously.


Some of the arguments most relevant to prove that the oil is of abiotic origin (non-fossil):

- The oil is extracted from great depths, exceeding 13 km. This totally contradicts the thesis of fossils, as the remains of marine life never reached such depths and temperature (very high) would have destroyed any organic material.

- The oil reserves, which should be empty since the 70's, back to fill up again for themselves. The oil reserves can not explain this phenomenon. Can only be explained by the incessant production of abiotic oil inside the earth.

- The amount of oil extracted in the last 100 years exceeds the amount of oil that could have been formed through the biomass. There was never plant and animal material enough to be turned into so much oil. Only a process of manufacture of hydrocarbons within the Earth can explain this huge amount.

- When we look at the large oil reserves in the world is well known that they occur where tectonic plates are in contact with each other or moving. In these regions there are numerous cracks, an indication that the oil comes from the interior of the earth and migrates slowly through the openings to the surface.

Plate Tectonics

- In laboratory conditions have been created similar to those that predominate in the depths of the planet. It was possible to produce methane, ethane and propane. These experiments prove that hydrocarbons can be formed inside the Earth through simple reactions Inorganic - not by the decomposition of dead organisms, as is generally accepted.

- Oil can not have 500 million years and remain so fresh in the ground today. The long molecules of carbon have would be decomposed. The oil we use is recent, otherwise it would have already volatilized long. This contradicts the appearance of oil reserves, but proves the theory of abiotic oil.


In 1970, the Russians started drilling at great depths, surpassing the 13,000 meters. Since then, Russian oil majors, including Iukos, drilled over 310 wells and extract oil there. Last year, Russia surpassed the extraction of the world's largest producer, Saudi Arabia.

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The Russians dominated the complex technique of deep drilling for over 30 years and explore inexhaustible reserves of oil in the deep Earth. This fact is ignored by the West. The Russians have proven to be totally false the explanation of Western geologists that oil would be the result of decomposed organic material.

In the 40 and 50, the Russian experts have discovered, to their surprise, the oil reserves are refilled by themselves and under. They concluded that oil is produced deep in the earth and migrates upwards, where it accumulates. Could prove this through deep drilling.

However, in 90 years, Russia was so ahead of the West in technology for deep drilling, which Wall Street banks and the Rockefeller and Rothschild provided money to Mikhail Khodorkovsky on a mission to buy the company Iukos by 309 million dollars to obtain the know-how of deep drilling.



Can now understand why President Vladimir Putin has returned to Iukos and other oil back to Russian hands. This was critical economically to Russia, and Putin expelled and arrested some Russian oligarchs.

However, the so-called "scientists", lobbyists, journalists on the payroll and the politicians want us to believe that the end of oil is coming, supposedly because the production has already peaked and is now declining. Of course, the intention is to create a climate that justifies the high price of oil and therefore gain huge profits.

It is now known that oil can be exploited almost everywhere, provided that it is willing to invest in high cost of deep drilling. Any country can become independent of energy. Simply, the owners of oil-dependent countries and want to pay high prices for imported oil.

The claim that there is a maximum in the extraction of oil is in fact a coup and a lie of the global elite. It is building a shortage and an expensive artificial. It's all about business, profit, power and control.

Moreover, it is absolutely clear to everyone that Iraq was invaded because of oil. Only it was not to extract the oil, but rather to prevent the Iraqi oil to flood the market and prices fall. Before the war with Iraq, drew six million barrels per day, and today does not reach two million. The difference was withdrawn from the market. Saddam Hussein threatened to extract huge amounts of oil and flood the market.

This meant his death sentence, and for this reason Iraq was attacked and Saddam hanged. Now the U.S. has troops there permanently. No one has license to explore oil in the country with the second largest oil reserve in the world. Therefore, Iran, with the third-largest oil reserves in the world, is now also threatened by wanting to build "weapons of mass destruction".

Source:aviacaoportugal.net...

From the book: "Black Gold Stranglehold "de Jerome R. Corsi and Craig R. Smith

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good ONE -
was wondering about this last week...
whether there is any dino DNA in oil, as ONE might expect from substance originating supposedly from biomass.
and the planetary biomass to oil ratio requirements during the history of EARTH.

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Can you provide a link to the article? I can get Google to do a loose translation for me. This is very interesting. I'd like to do some more research on this. My family has an oil well on our land that sits atop what is known as a canyon reef. It is a lake of oil under our land that has pressure so high that they have to "choke" it down from max of 300 barrels a day to 150 a day. I'm not sure what the actual pressure is though. We get paid by the barrel.

There used to be a natural gas plant within a 1/4 mile from the new well site. That was capped off after some litigation between the Bass Oil Corp and my grandfather. They were stealing gas before the meter. (Their own valve was placed ahead of the outlet and never recorded by the Texas Railroad Commission.) I have a jar of crude that got pumped out and into the storage tanks. I was amazed when I realized that crude is NOT black. It's actually like a foamy yellowish/chocolate milk looking substance.

I have done extensive research on this topic. S&F for starting the thread.

Here are a couple of things to look for.

Oil fields replenishing themselves.
Alaska oil 200 year supply.
Russia abiotic oil theory.
Russian deep oil exploration.
Gulf of Mexico deep oil field.
Hydrocarbons evident on other planets.
Lindsey Williams, an ordained Baptist minister.
Prudhoe Bay
Gull Island

Do a google earth search of the Gull Island and the Prudhoe Bay fields, you will be amazed on the size of the Airport alone. Not to mention the fields. Where is all of this oil going?

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wow very eye opening things presented here, which make sense considering the state of our world.

thank you for the info S+F.

MY GOD !

PLEASE stop stating and pasting crap here, I can't support all this non sens anymore.
Have you made any more research about it before posting ?
Have you read any book about organic matter, decomposition, formation of petroleum, oil window, gas window ?

Have you search about how Petroleum Geologist determine the composition, the nature and the source of oil ?
Have you at least speak with a Geologist (which I am) ?

I bet you didn't....

Every weeks I read more nonsense about geology, biology and other fact.
Well I strongly suggest you to read more about it and to educate yourself.

For your information, we can even determine what kind of plant was part of the oil we extract, even the species.
You ask why ? It's because each organic molecule have a signature, and with spectrometry and chromatography we can easily determine the kind of molecule, it's form and then to which plants or animals it belongs.

And don't even dare to say that is all some things we learn at college, with no scientific prooves etcetera...

Go to a lab, ask to see how it's done, and you will see by yourself

- The oil is extracted from great depths, exceeding 13 km. This totally contradicts the thesis of fossils, as the remains of marine life never reached such depths and temperature (very high) would have destroyed any organic material.

Juste search about basin burial and SUBSIDENCE, you will understand how organic matter can be found at such great depth.
About temperatures, search about the geothermal gradient and you will find that it is not the same everywhere (about 30°C per kilometers, oils are forming from 70°C to 115°C so between 2 kilometers and 5 kilometers, but in some place you just begin to form oil at 6 kilometers).
Again, do you know how and what form a petroleum system :
- a sorce rock, with high organic matter content
- a reservoir rock (with good permeability and porosity, most of the time it's well classed shales or limestones)
- a seal, so the oil present in the reservoir rocks can't leave
- a trap (faults or anticline) to trap the oil.

So what can prevent oil from being found at 13km in ultra deep offshore if the temperature is low enough to prevent oil from being transformed into gaz ? And remember thaht at 13km there is the reservoir, not the source rock.

- The oil reserves, which should be empty since the 70's, back to fill up again for themselves. The oil reserves can not explain this phenomenon. Can only be explained by the incessant production of abiotic oil inside the earth.

This is just wrong...
Empty since the 70's, how can you say that ? we don't even know NOW how much ressources we still have, because the technology now give us more data now than before...
Reservoirs don't fill up by themselves, we help them...

- The amount of oil extracted in the last 100 years exceeds the amount of oil that could have been formed through the biomass. There was never plant and animal material enough to be turned into so much oil. Only a process of manufacture of hydrocarbons within the Earth can explain this huge amount.

This one is my fav...
Please, calculate the biomass produced on earth since Silurian (first source rock) which is 450 MILLION YEARS AGO.
You have to know that there is 3 types of environnements where you can produce enough organic matter and which we can observe in oil compositions : Marin, Lacustrin and Continental.
Good chance to prove that earth didn't produce enough organic matter...

- When we look at the large oil reserves in the world is well known that they occur where tectonic plates are in contact with each other or moving. In these regions there are numerous cracks, an indication that the oil comes from the interior of the earth and migrates slowly through the openings to the surface.

Good one to...
If you dig to the Turonian under the Paris Basin you can found Source Rock.
Everyone now that Paris is a plate boundary

Is it possible that there are both biotic and abiotic mechanisms for the formation of oil/hydrocarbons?

I find this an interesting topic, but firstly I would like a decent link for the 'article' and I will see what else I can dredge up over the next few days (damn work getting in the way!)

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- In laboratory conditions have been created similar to those that predominate in the depths of the planet. It was possible to produce methane, ethane and propane. These experiments prove that hydrocarbons can be formed inside the Earth through simple reactions Inorganic - not by the decomposition of dead organisms, as is generally accepted.

This one is true, we manage to prove that hydrocarbons can be formed into the shallow mantle, this is a new discovery and we still have to understand it.
About that I will say that the amount produce by such process may not be as important as by organic matter because of the source of Carbon.

- Oil can not have 500 million years and remain so fresh in the ground today. The long molecules of carbon have would be decomposed. The oil we use is recent, otherwise it would have already volatilized long. This contradicts the appearance of oil reserves, but proves the theory of abiotic oil.

Wrong, the kinetics about oil formation are so slow, that's why we can extract oil formed a long time ago.
By the way, the old fields produces mainly gaz, and in fact it is explained by the fact that during maturating process we go form organic matter to oil, to gaz and then to coal or over burden matter

the rest is not worth to comment as it just false information from some portuguese (no offense I love Portugal, went there 3 times in the last years) forum with no source, no papers, nothing.


So, please, before posting such statement, speak with specialist, and don't fell into the trap of misinformation and destroying scientifical fact just because it's "cool" or because it's in the air.

Also, remember that all the researches done on oil where not only done by oil company but also by others scientific such as paleontologist, chemist, geologist, etc... not from the industry.

Again, if you have question about Geology, Oil or anything, I'll gladly answer or discuss any subject, this is how you advance in science, by discussion of facts.

Originally posted by aorAki
Is it possible that there are both biotic and abiotic mechanisms for the formation of oil/hydrocarbons?

I find this an interesting topic, but firstly I would like a decent link for the 'article' and I will see what else I can dredge up over the next few days (damn work getting in the way!)

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Yes it is. the discovery was officially made and published this year that oil can be formed by abiotic mechanisms.
I must have the paper somewhere in my mess in pdf.

Originally posted by aorAki
Is it possible that there are both biotic and abiotic mechanisms for the formation of oil/hydrocarbons?

I find this an interesting topic, but firstly I would like a decent link for the 'article' and I will see what else I can dredge up over the next few days (damn work getting in the way!)

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I've got to agree with you there as well. If only life can give rise to oil, then we've already discovered life off world in numerous places. Wasn't it also once thought that life created methane until we found it on mars and decided that some other chemical mechanism was at play for generating the methane there?

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Okay, you just admitted that we will have to research abiotic oil.

Now, can you explain the hydrocarbons detected on other planets?

Is their maybe something to all of this, or are we barking up the wrong Mega Oil Corporation derrick.

Because manipulating the oil market for 100's of billions of dollars a year is not actually possible?

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the rest is not worth to comment as it just false information from some portuguese (no offense I love Portugal, went there 3 times in the last years) forum with no source, no papers, nothing.

You don't need to come here full of rocks in your hands because of what is written here. I pasted this article wich i read in that forum because i found it to be very interesting and wanted to share. Each one think what they want out of it as i made it myself. I´m not telling this is real i didn't even wrote it! You chose what to believe.
you should chose better ways to explain some stuff with your higher scientific knowledge on this subject, like a more civilized way respecting others not laughing about it.

Article is an excerpt from the book: "Black Gold Stranglehold "de Jerome R. Corsi and Craig R. Smith

Authors:
Jerome Corsi: Dr. Jerome Corsi received a Ph.D. from Harvard University in political science in 1972 and has written many books and articles, including the No. 1 New York Times best-seller, Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry. His latest best-seller was The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada. He is a senior staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.com and the author of two books on contemporary Iran: Atomic Iran and Showdown with Nuclear Iran. In his 2005 book Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil, which he co-authored with Craig. R. Smith, Dr. Corsi predicted oil prices at over $100 a barrel.

This wasn't written by some ignorants as you guys are making of it.
Information about authors:

Craig R. Smith: Craig R. Smith is Chairman of Swiss America Trading Corporation, a national investment firm specializing in U.S. gold and silver coins. Mr. Smith founded the company in 1982 out of a bedroom in his home with $50.00. It has since grown into one of the largest and most respected firms in the industry known for its dedication to consumer education and safety..... www.craigrsmith.com...

So this is an American book with american authors translated to portuguese wich i translated to English!
For more about them, do a little search.


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What a very interesting article! S&F!
It changes the way one would think about the idea of where oil came from. Perhaps it is just a theory, but it made me very curious, and now I must go do research.

This is the first time that I've heard anything about this, but I did find a link to an article discussing this topic here. The study was allegedly published in Science Magazine. Hope it helps.



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Originally posted by endisnighe
I have done extensive research on this topic.

God I love it when I see introductions like this!

I think you've been doing your "Exstensive Research" referecing the wrong texts - or should I say websites. You'll be hard pressed to find any academic supporting the Abiotic theory.

Alaska is in decline, so I don't know where you sourced this "200 year" supply from. Oh wait a minute - I do know! The same websites you got all the other misinformation off!

We are probably at peak tap flow now people. But don't take my word for it. Go and research it for yourselves, using valid industry sources - not crackpot websites.

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Bravo Solenki
Well said. Thank god we have someone here who actually knows what they're talking about.

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Haha the Texas Railroad Commission was one of the most corrupt organizations that ever graced American enterprise and government.

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Well, I have never read an paper about the presence of oil on other planets or moons.
And I can hardly imagine the presence of liquid oil on planets such as Mercury or Venus, and even more on some far distant bodies like pluto.

But, in fact, we can detect the presence of hydrocarbon on other planets, tha fact is that the longest molecule is HC11N, so only one hydrogen for 11 carbons.
Most of the hydrocarbons found in space are unsaturated and linear, we are far away from the composition on oil or gaz found on earth.

If you are interested I have a PhD done in my college in 2003 about this subject, but it's in French...

Just as a last word,

Where did, after all, the story of that oil would have come from fossils of living organisms and would therefore biotic? Russian geologist Mikhail Lomonosov had this idea for the first time in 1757: "The oil comes from small bodies of animals and plants, enclosed in sediments under high pressure and temperature are transformed into oil after an unthinkable". We do not know what observations led him to say this, only this theory has never been confirmed and is accepted without evidence for over 200 years and taught in universities.

I could give you TONS of publication and research proving this fact. Just google it...
You can't imagine how upset I was in reading this