Opportunity Knocks Again

Originally posted by justjoemusic
Ok I will play along for awhile.... here are my questions...

Do the Grey, Pleadian, Reptilian and Nordic Extra Terrestrials exist?

If so what are there plans for us???


Thanks....

Hey.

If you don't mind me replying to your Q..




I believe "UFOs " are actually human invented and constructed machines. The crafts are based in technological discoveries by the late inventor Nikola Tesla ...but around his times there were also others dabling with this "Ether Physics/Ether technology". ...Viktor Schauberger was one of them.

The Alien-theory in all of this, to me, is just propaganda by the "powers that be" (the banking -industrial collective = illuminati) to keep this technology hidden from the public ...So are the reptilians, grays and so on a threat to us ...these "entities" might not even exist in reality!!!! ..these could be just propaganda-hoaxes ...but you'll be the judge on your on behalf...


I'm gonna post here only a short intro to the subject and leave you with links and source material for you to study for yourselves. ..It's not the most easiest thing to understand when you're not that savyy to electrical engineering and universal physics/construction of the cosmos ..but once you start understanding it; how the Cosmos works and how Aether plays a huge part in it ..it all starts to fold open quite nicelly ...read the William Lyne's books. He wrote them with the 'layman in mind', so the books try to explain the "ufo"-technology quite in 'every day language'.







Here's a little taste on how Nikola Tesla discribed his "electro-flying machine" in a 1911 New York Herald Tribune:



"...“And it makes the aeroplane practical,” I suggested.

“Not the aeroplane, the flying machine,” responded Dr. Tesla. “Now you have struck the point in which I am most deeply interested—the object toward which I have been devoting my energies for more than twenty years—the dream of my life. It was in seeking the means of making the perfect flying machine that I developed this engine.
“Twenty years ago I believed that I would be the first man to fly; that I was on the track of accomplishing what no one else was anywhere near reaching. I was working entirely in electricity then and did not realize that the gasoline engine was approaching a perfection that was going to make the aeroplane feasible. There is nothing new about the aeroplane but its engine, you know.
“What I was working on twenty years ago was the wireless transmission of electric power. My idea was a flying machine propelled by an electric motor, with power supplied from stations on the earth. I have not accomplished this as yet, but am confident that I will in time.
“When I found that I had been anticipated as to the flying machine, by men working in a different field, I began to study the problem from other angles, to regard it as a mechanical rather than an electrical problem. I felt certain there must be some means of obtaining power that was better than any now in use. And by vigorous use of my gray matter for a number of years, I grasped the possibilities of the principle of the viscosity and adhesion of fluids and conceived the mechanism of my engine. Now that I have it, my next step will be the perfect flying machine.”

“An aeroplane driven by your engine?” I asked.

“Not at all,” said Dr. Tesla. “The aeroplane is fatally defective. It is merely a toy—a sporting play-thing. It can never become commercially practical. It has fatal defects. One is the fact that when it encounters a downward current of air it is helpless. The “hole in the air” of which aviators speak is simply a downward current, and unless the aeroplane is high enough above the earth to move laterally but can do nothing but fall.
“There is no way of detecting these downward currents, no way of avoiding them, and therefore the aeroplane must always be subject to chance and its operator to the risk of fatal accident. Sportsmen will always take these chances, but as a business proposition the risk is too great.
“The flying machine of the future—my flying machine—will be heavier than air, but it will not be an aeroplane. It will have no wings. It will be substantial, solid, stable. You cannot have a stable airplane. The gyroscope can never be successfully applied to the airplane, for it would give a stability that would result in the machine being torn to pieces by the wind, just as the unprotected aeroplane on the ground is torn to pieces by a high wind.
“My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of “holes in the air” or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action.”

“You will get stability through gyroscopes?” I asked.

“Through gyroscopic action of my engine, assisted by some devices I am not yet prepared to talk about,” he replied.

“Powerful air currents that may be deflected at will, if produced by engines and compressors sufficiently light and powerful, might lift a heavy body off the ground and propel it through the air,” I ventured, wondering if I had grasped the inventor’s secret.

Dr. Tesla smiled an inscrutable smile.
“All I have to say on that point is that my airship will have neither gas bag, wings nor propellers,” he said. “It is the child of my dreams, the product of years of intense and painful toil and research. I am not going to talk about it any further. But whatever my airship may be, here at least is an engine that will do things that no other engine ever has done, and that is something tangible.”





www.tfcbooks.com...





Here's a bit taken from the above one:

"My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of “holes in the air” or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action."


....in this bit Nikola Tesla describes a flying machine, (which has; no planes, wings, baloons nor propellers of any sort) that is capable of ANTI-GRAVITY;

"regardless of weather and oblivious of “holes in the air” or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time"



So, are Flying Saucers, UFOs actually man made ...surelly Tesla spoke of this nearly HUNDRED YEARS AGO. ...in 1911.

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Here are the links and the short intro:


I'll keep this fairly short. You can find more info on the net by googling: Nikola Tesla ether physics, Nikola Tesla flying saucers, William Lyne Pentagon aliens..
..It's better you do your own reading and research with the material, than me explaining it to you since i'm no expert on electrical engineering.

William Lyne has writen few books on his research on flying saucers, and according to his material, which has convinced me, flying saucers would be based on Nikola Tesla's discoveries an inventions.
William Lyne's books can be found on amazon .com, including his Pentagon Aliens, which i higly recomend.


According to this material, flying saucers work on electricity, using AC-current on the other end of the craft, DC-current on the other end, pulsing in certain frequencies, manipulating the ether-medium (sub-atomic particles) and so giving the craft it's abilities ...so, if this is true flying saucers/ufos would be man made, no aliens involved.

The AC and DC discharges, same way as HAARP (ionospheric heaters), ionize the atmospheric gases,creating plasma and making it glow in various colours (and intensity) around the craft, according to how much power/voltage is being used.

Tesla's inventions were first used by Nazi Germany in their Foo Fighters in the 1920-30's. After WW II the Flyingsaucer projects moved over to USA and were headed by Werner Von Braun, the same guy who was in charge of the projects earlier in Germany.

The Nazis also started spreading propaganda, that the Thule and Vril-societies "channeled" the info to build these crafts (working on "vril-power") from some alien "nordics ..This propaganda has today taken a reptilian/grey form.

The vril-myth is taken out of Edward Bulwer-Lytton's book; The Coming Race. In the book, the vril is described to be an "all-permeating fluid", which, more commonly or in our scientific terms is known as; ether or luminiferous ether.


The flyingsaucer technology has been hidden from the public by the world's money elite, also known as the Illuminati; Oil-, motor-,avition-, trasportation- and energy companies an dso on..and bankers.
It has been kept from us for atleast 70 years. Since then our enviroment has been destroyed as well as people's health all over the world..pollution, poverty and hunger.

According to some people, Tesla also discovered away to derive free enviromental energy, for your everyday household needs, and wanted to give his inventions and discoveries to the whole world, for the benefit of whole mankind, but strangely the global money elite said NO!

Now Tesla's papers and patents are illegally held from public and kept somewhere in the USA.






Here are some links to Tesla and Lyne material ......the links don't seem to show in the thread very well ...but there are links just use the cursor to spot them:




To get to know what ether-medium is:
en.wikipedia.org...



A summary of Tesla's statements on his electro-craft:
pritchardschool.com...



Writings on and by Tesla on his inventions ..on some he talks about his electro-craft:
www.tfcbooks.com...



Summation of Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity (ether physics and electro propulsion system) by William Lyne:
netowne.com...




Video material on the subject:

Hitler's Secret Flying Saucers, a studio discussion with William Lyne:
video.google.com...

Nazi Ufos How They Fly, a studio discussion with William Lyne:
www.guba.com...


Hitler's Secret Flying Saucers:
www.mininova.org...

Nazi Ufos How They Fly:
www.mininova.org...


Pdf-version of William Lyne's books can be found here:
www.scribd.com...






Here are also links to Tesla's free energy generator-motor, which possibly powered Tesla's electric car which "mystically" dissapeared into oblivion...



FREE ENERGY Home Generator Zero Point Energy Off the Grid:
www.youtube.com...



IS THERE A REACTING AETHER? Here is the Proof: It powers the BEDINI Machine!:
aetherscience.net...


JOHN BEDINI'S COLLECTION OF FREE ENERGY MACHINES:
www.icehouse.net...


Google search on: Bendini Machine:
www.google.com...


Here's a wiki-page on similar 'mass-electro magnet free energy generator':


The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman:

en.wikipedia.org...



This load of info should keep you guys busy for a while..


Peace.

fu-lion,

you are banging on open doors. I am generally skeptical, interested in the mystical but able to entertain various world models. Including conspiracy theories or plain old religion or science. I respect Tesla a lot, although math is stronger with me than physics. I am an NLP practitioner and have been a philosophy student, specialising in comparative religion. So I can believe AND not believe in Atlantis etc. at the same time. Or, sometimes I believe it, in some hours I do not. As Terenc McKenna said, "if this is not true, something like this must be true." Carl Jung also softened my thinking a lot. He basically thought UFO's were manifestations of archetypes, spiritual reality.
I myself have seen UFO people (looking a lot like Whitley Strieber's renditions) in some very significant dreams when I was about 12, when I had not yet been exposed to any pictures of that sort. (I grew up in Eastern Europe, people did not have TV-s then, and hardly any Western science fiction was let into the country.) Nevertheless, I think what I saw was not physical, but something more than a mere symbol or an archetype... I stated this in other threads on the subject on ATS.

About the Insider materials: they helped me to put things into a perspective. The age-old theological debate of why problems exist in our world, or, better say, why they are dominant. From a reincarnational perspective, which is something I rejected for years but now allow.

From a Jungian point of view, if someone is into conspiracy theories but there is no resolution equal in strength from a spiritual vantage point, he or she is in trouble, unbalanced, heading towards paranoid thinking. I think this is why Insider, Hidden Hand and Illuminator13 have such tremendous success. One need not believe every word they say. But you can recognize something very refined and powerful about their language. Take it as fiction, spiritual drama or an approximation of truth, these are very good texts. Some parts I think are as good as the best of high philosophy or literature.

Thanks for looking out for others here...

Kokatsi

Originally posted by Kokatsi
fu-lion,

you are banging on open doors. I am generally skeptical, interested in the mystical but able to entertain various world models. Including conspiracy theories or plain old religion or science. I respect Tesla a lot, although math is stronger with me than physics. I am an NLP practitioner and have been a philosophy student, specialising in comparative religion. So I can believe AND not believe in Atlantis etc. at the same time. Or, sometimes I believe it, in some hours I do not. As Terenc McKenna said, "if this is not true, something like this must be true." Carl Jung also softened my thinking a lot. He basically thought UFO's were manifestations of archetypes, spiritual reality.
I myself have seen UFO people (looking a lot like Whitley Strieber's renditions) in some very significant dreams when I was about 12, when I had not yet been exposed to any pictures of that sort. (I grew up in Eastern Europe, people did not have TV-s then, and hardly any Western science fiction was let into the country.) Nevertheless, I think what I saw was not physical, but something more than a mere symbol or an archetype... I stated this in other threads on the subject on ATS.

About the Insider materials: they helped me to put things into a perspective. The age-old theological debate of why problems exist in our world, or, better say, why they are dominant. From a reincarnational perspective, which is something I rejected for years but now allow.

From a Jungian point of view, if someone is into conspiracy theories but there is no resolution equal in strength from a spiritual vantage point, he or she is in trouble, unbalanced, heading towards paranoid thinking. I think this is why Insider, Hidden Hand and Illuminator13 have such tremendous success. One need not believe every word they say. But you can recognize something very refined and powerful about their language. Take it as fiction, spiritual drama or an approximation of truth, these are very good texts. Some parts I think are as good as the best of high philosophy or literature.

Thanks for looking out for others here...

Kokatsi

Hey, amigo..


...But we need to remember that studied (education) and published psychology is usually derived from the earlier researchers on the field ..so it conditions the "philosopher" to interpret the certain phenomena in certain way, as it was done by the elder peers ..if it is not a FULL conditoning (continuing a line of reaserch with no new heading/direction), it still leaves a mark, i'm sure ...pardon my english, can't find the suiting words, so i hope you get what i mean.



When it comes to psychlogy as a field of medicine ...it's 'funny' to take notice, that in the 1800's when Theosophs and other esoterics wanted to show the world that the 'otherside' really exists, at the same time Medicine-Psychology started also growing fast ...and it's Psychology which is trying to hide the Spirit-phenomena and explain it as "mental illness" ...and i feel there is a connection here.
Many leading Psychlogist at the times were just qvacks like Sigmund Freud, who manipulated his research data ..even his patients told the public he's no good ...and still they (the brotherhood) made him the "king"?!

..this is how it works "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was; convinsing the world he didn't exist" ...they hid him with Medicine-Psychology.
And who controls allmost all education and publishing (books, magazines, scientific reviews etc.) and so control INFORMATION???! ...THEY do. ..so when you go to their Psychology Universities to learn psychology, what will you learn? ...only the things they teach you. And if you go hot doging (question the authority) ...bye, bye career.

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On Jung and UFOs..


I haven't read that's much of Jung ...nor other phychology/philosophy ...i'm somewhat dyslexic, and so it can be a bit compilcated language to me ...but this has also showed me how OVERLY complicated psychology/philosophy really is ...it's almost ridiculous. Many times subjects of these fields could be explained on couple of A4 papers, but these guys write books that are over 300 pages long, you know what i mean?!


Anyways ...i have a feeling Jung himself hadn't seen actual UFOs, but thought that they were like "astral images" ..like things, objects, entities poeple encounter on astral journeys ...and this is a good observations by Jung also!!! ...very important point:
It gives an explination to these "alien abductions" where these "ETs" just walk into someone's bed room through the wall and are sort of "invisible" ...it's astral/ESP phenomena ...but this can be also produced by discarnate human spirits ...they don't need to be genuine aliens to convince people, astrally, that they are 'other dimensional entities' ...these spirits show themselves in ASTRAL LIGHT (in the abductees mind), they do not appear people IN FLESH, but are astral thought forms, TULPA(s) ..like they call these thought-forms in Tibetan Buddhism/Bön.

..And Jung had his own 'posession experiences' (voices in the head), so i'm sure this had an effect on his interpretation on the UFO-phenomena.


...So, expaining flying saucers only as psychological phenomena leaves the Physical UFOs out of it ...and there are physical crafts in our skies.




Thinking out side the box is the thing ...and not conditioning yourself with information that flows from these 'highly conditoned linages', be it Psychology, Philosophy or "Spiritual info" ..these 'initiates/students' usually allways follow teachers and gurus ..and this conditions heavilly.


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On Terence McKenna

...to me, he was "too much" of a Drug-reseacher to interpret the "mind phenomena" in an 'emptive, explaining way', to analyze the mind-phenoma as it IS, and not what it looks like or delivers. Don't get me wrong, he was an intelligent guy, but these are hair-things, very minute things based on observations and pre-existing believes, so it's very, very easy to take the wrong turn at some point. So, did he even make a wrong turn at some point?!, you know ...it just wasn't his thing in a way I NEEDED it to be, LOL! ...Go, Pot Heads & Shroomers, go! ...i am a one (pot head).
...but, to me, he was too much into the 'mind landscapes' and NOT well educated enough in the Spiritualist field to give the phonomena a 'fully proper' explanation ...i like him as a person and i have read couple of his books, but when it comes to "mapping the reality" ...he was abit too much "out there" (for me) ...but then again, he was a hallucinogenic reseacher, not a Theo-scientist. ..And still, he prolly explained and gave 'satisfying info on the 'mind', just as well as the Buddhist ever could ...and to me, the Buddhist have gone too far also ...they have over anylyzed the 'mind-phenomena', and so are kinda "back in the wilderness again"

...Yup, i'm this arrogant ..i even say the Buddhist are abit "bonkers" and drunk/intoxicated on the ASTRAL LIGHT!!! LOL!! ...but i don't say it in a bad way.


Peace.

You used an anology with an RPG video game.....So what video games have you played?

Since when did the Supreme One, the creator of all, need you?

Dear Illuminator13,

I am deeply grateful for all the wonderful subtle advise you parted..

I think I am in love with you..Do you procreate like us too?

Life is meant to be a test..humanity just didn't know how to control our ego..

Maybe we should start listening to our Inner Voice once in a while...


Namaste

99% of what he said could be found in the Ra Material, it's been out there for almost 30 years, but the gist of it can be found in even older channelings by the L/L Research Group. It is written down very plainly and concisely here: llresearch.org... Makes a good read for anyone who wants to confirm all he said, but it's even more useful reading the Ra Material which can be found on the same website. But at the end of the day, no matter how much you read, it'll always be someone else's opinion, which is why the only real way to realizations and eventually enlightenment is to meditate, daily, and when you have realizations live your life accordingly.

idk if anyone asked this already.

why exactly did you decide to come to ATS to answer questions?
i mean, what reasons do you have for feeling ATS is the place for questions to be answered?


Kind Intentions
Wartooth

il

[edit on 31-3-2010 by killer4281]

although the OP implies that it is not necessary / a good idea to look for the truth in holy scripts and channeled material, I do encourage those readers who consider themselves seekers to read any piece of material from here llresearch.org... or for more advanced seekers from here llresearch.org... or if you consider yourself a light worker then there is no point reading the above material, what you need is this llresearch.org... however if you do not believe in this whole stuff maybe you should start here llresearch.org...
Why do I recommend these readings in spite of what Illuminator13 said? Simple:
"In truth, we have come to your planet not because the information is not available to each upon your planet from your higher self, but because many of those upon your planet do not have contact with the higher self or even know of its existence. Yet many, especially within the, shall we say, society of science, are more open to the words of one who is in a so-called flying saucer than one who is in a spiritual realm of your own planet and dwells always with you. There are those, who cannot conceive of such a thing as an angel, who can fully conceive of an extraterrestrial being. We are taking advantage of this, shall we say, edge to get the information to the peoples of your planet."

After reading some of the Op posts we can say safely he is who he says he is for one thing only one of enlightenment would know of the zindar Council and the Elohims roll as world guardians and its connection to Saturn. I am sure he told you that your planet has a soul as well a advanced one known as GAIA. He is telling you to not prepare for the coming events in world physically but to work on yourself mentally, emotionally so that you become spiritually balanced.

Now there is something I'm permitted to reveal due to I have actually before birth become the Creator Adonai and came from it directly so understand Oneness entirely, The purpose of this system the El is to bring you into balance this means that you are not to be too positive or too negative the best is to be of a balance of each in which you choose to act from the positive but understand the negative and its roll this forms the symbol ying and yang. So like the law of magnetics within your realm when you put too positives together it pushes away from one another towards the negative and vice/versa, the purpose is to balance the polarities but to make a choice which one you want to experience, this choice comes over the cycle as you polarise your social memory complex.

The Catalysts to come are to accelerate the growth of the world it will be a time in which karma will play out more quickly, this means people who are 'Evil' will not find it a fun time those who are Good will find it easier but there can be a problem occur of a magnetic reversal if someone is to positive as well so 'Love and Light' and it current idea on earth can lead if imbalanced towards negative experiences think of magnets. The ideas of the 'Love and Light' are actually coming from Arch-ons programs fallen which are trying to deceive the meaning of love and light away from mankind so they do not develop in intelligence through knowledge and wisdom, the ray of compassion is the lessons of 4th density STO but you will be surprised what is considered compassion.

I am on earth for one purpose only to speak about the harvest and increase the % and to bring about the end events through programming of it by anchoring scenario into world grid, so I work with the council myself and the soul of this world GAIA and I'm quite aware what events are programmed to occur.

He is correct to be-careful of the channellings and spiritual books being networked in this world a lot has a lot distortions in it purposely done to confuse the world and make people deny the actually wisdom behind books like the bible which if you ask I can tell you why the bible even thou their been versions and changes the original bible is still 85% around truthful there is indeed a reason.

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Adonai Christ bless

Originally posted by Rolci
although the OP implies that it is not necessary / a good idea to look for the truth in holy scripts and channeled material, I do encourage those readers who consider themselves seekers to read any piece of material from here llresearch.org... or for more advanced seekers from here llresearch.org... or if you consider yourself a light worker then there is no point reading the above material, what you need is this llresearch.org... however if you do not believe in this whole stuff maybe you should start here llresearch.org...
Why do I recommend these readings in spite of what Illuminator13 said? Simple:
"In truth, we have come to your planet not because the information is not available to each upon your planet from your higher self, but because many of those upon your planet do not have contact with the higher self or even know of its existence. Yet many, especially within the, shall we say, society of science, are more open to the words of one who is in a so-called flying saucer than one who is in a spiritual realm of your own planet and dwells always with you. There are those, who cannot conceive of such a thing as an angel, who can fully conceive of an extraterrestrial being. We are taking advantage of this, shall we say, edge to get the information to the peoples of your planet."

Wait second dont get to far-ahead, not everyone has developed a higherself to make contact with this is complex to explain but you could say your choices can make you a future beyond this density and that the El can gather all knowledge gained and store it within what called the higherself and all your knowledge will then be used to guide you to your completion which is the emergence into the higherself. Remember please he said 'Develop souls' .

I am a 777th density being in which deascended 774 densitys this involved many octaves to come to this world now I have become the One and gone beyond it becoming part of the One the One is a part of etc. I am in service and here as Adonai Christ Yeshua El Elyon Shabbi Elohim, I can tell you also that when you speak to a bloodline member you also must use discernment remember they are also taskes with not telling you to much as their goal is to win the chess game as well, so it is wise you discern even his words their is tools in place indeed but you must learn how to use them the best tools you can use are explained on our site it is your choice how you use them we will be expanding the site soon it is in prototype but there is plenty of information shared to assist a soul to make harvest but you must dot he work yourself 'freewill' you know.

www.teachingsofadonaichrist.com

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Adonai Christ bless

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5 thumbs up for such a great thread

Now straight to the business I am an Elohim also known as El Adonai, El Shaddy, El Elyon, Avoni, Riders Of The Clouds and Angels.

Is this in fact a true statement??? and what is my purpose then if this is true???

Kind Regards and much Appreciation if you could answer those questions.

Thank you brother and all the best to you.

Jake

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I visited your website and read your ideas on the ego and they're quite interesting. I came to a realization recently that mastering one's ego, namely being aware of it and the role it plays in your everyday decision making, is one of the most life altering things you can do. It's is almost as if a spell is broken. The way you look at society, the media, advertising, materialism, etc.

There are a few guys translating the ancient Hebrew from the Bible using a new system called Self Defining Hebrew which supposedly is the most accurate way to translate it or so they say. There was a thread about it a while back. Anyways, in their translation, after the forbidden fruit incident, God (who is referred to as the "Ruler of the Supreme Ones") puts a "covering" over Adam and Eve to blind them from what they knew and suspended the power that was in them so that they would be human again. Do you think this "covering" placed over man is in fact the ego?

Originally posted by Mr Poopra
reply to post by AdonaiChristBless

 

I visited your website and read your ideas on the ego and they're quite interesting. I came to a realization recently that mastering one's ego, namely being aware of it and the role it plays in your everyday decision making, is one of the most life altering things you can do. It's is almost as if a spell is broken. The way you look at society, the media, advertising, materialism, etc.

There are a few guys translating the ancient Hebrew from the Bible using a new system called Self Defining Hebrew which supposedly is the most accurate way to translate it or so they say. There was a thread about it a while back. Anyways, in their translation, after the forbidden fruit incident, God (who is referred to as the "Ruler of the Supreme Ones") puts a "covering" over Adam and Eve to blind them from what they knew and suspended the power that was in them so that they would be human again. Do you think this "covering" placed over man is in fact the ego?

Yes I would agree the ego program is this covering and our challenge in life is to tame it, I explained once tamed you could use it to expose other peoples ego in hopes they see theirs it is risky to do because if one doesnt fully understand the ego one can become the egos playtoy again.

I will add more to site later it is prototype we are going to expand on things and work on making a forum to allow discussion of the topics purpose of this is to increase the harvest and bring people into heaven on earth which is the 4th density STO reality. It has to be each souls choice but if you read the Ark section it can explain why it is possible for opportunity of coming with another through learning from them, teachers could say that section explains why God sends angels to world to help mankind.

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Adonai Christ bless

Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless

Originally posted by Mr Poopra
reply to post by AdonaiChristBless

 

I visited your website and read your ideas on the ego and they're quite interesting. I came to a realization recently that mastering one's ego, namely being aware of it and the role it plays in your everyday decision making, is one of the most life altering things you can do. It's is almost as if a spell is broken. The way you look at society, the media, advertising, materialism, etc.

There are a few guys translating the ancient Hebrew from the Bible using a new system called Self Defining Hebrew which supposedly is the most accurate way to translate it or so they say. There was a thread about it a while back. Anyways, in their translation, after the forbidden fruit incident, God (who is referred to as the "Ruler of the Supreme Ones") puts a "covering" over Adam and Eve to blind them from what they knew and suspended the power that was in them so that they would be human again. Do you think this "covering" placed over man is in fact the ego?

Yes I would agree the ego program is this covering and our challenge in life is to tame it, I explained once tamed you could use it to expose other peoples ego in hopes they see theirs it is risky to do because if one doesnt fully understand the ego one can become the egos playtoy again.

I will add more to site later it is prototype we are going to expand on things and work on making a forum to allow discussion of the topics purpose of this is to increase the harvest and bring people into heaven on earth which is the 4th density STO reality. It has to be each souls choice but if you read the Ark section it can explain why it is possible for opportunity of coming with another through learning from them, teachers could say that section explains why God sends angels to world to help mankind.

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Adonai Christ bless

I understand. I have had many thoughts or dreams recently that I am or was someone more "important" than I think I am now. For a while I dismissed it as just a trick played on me by my own poorly controlled ego but now I'm having trouble shaking the feeling that maybe i am supposed to be doing something, i just don't know what. Do you know what I am talking about? There's something I'm not remembering. I'm feeling the time constriction, the chaos and unpredictability of everything from world markets to people's behavior. What's going on and how can we learn more about ourselves and our reason for being here at this "time". These two questions have consumed me as of late.

Originally posted by Mr Poopra

Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless

Originally posted by Mr Poopra
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I visited your website and read your ideas on the ego and they're quite interesting. I came to a realization recently that mastering one's ego, namely being aware of it and the role it plays in your everyday decision making, is one of the most life altering things you can do. It's is almost as if a spell is broken. The way you look at society, the media, advertising, materialism, etc.

There are a few guys translating the ancient Hebrew from the Bible using a new system called Self Defining Hebrew which supposedly is the most accurate way to translate it or so they say. There was a thread about it a while back. Anyways, in their translation, after the forbidden fruit incident, God (who is referred to as the "Ruler of the Supreme Ones") puts a "covering" over Adam and Eve to blind them from what they knew and suspended the power that was in them so that they would be human again. Do you think this "covering" placed over man is in fact the ego?

Yes I would agree the ego program is this covering and our challenge in life is to tame it, I explained once tamed you could use it to expose other peoples ego in hopes they see theirs it is risky to do because if one doesnt fully understand the ego one can become the egos playtoy again.

I will add more to site later it is prototype we are going to expand on things and work on making a forum to allow discussion of the topics purpose of this is to increase the harvest and bring people into heaven on earth which is the 4th density STO reality. It has to be each souls choice but if you read the Ark section it can explain why it is possible for opportunity of coming with another through learning from them, teachers could say that section explains why God sends angels to world to help mankind.

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Adonai Christ bless

I understand. I have had many thoughts or dreams recently that I am or was someone more "important" than I think I am now. For a while I dismissed it as just a trick played on me by my own poorly controlled ego but now I'm having trouble shaking the feeling that maybe i am supposed to be doing something, i just don't know what. Do you know what I am talking about? There's something I'm not remembering. I'm feeling the time constriction, the chaos and unpredictability of everything from world markets to people's behavior. What's going on and how can we learn more about ourselves and our reason for being here at this "time". These two questions have consumed me as of late.

If you have a destiny it up to you to discover it, some souls are younger could say than others and less aware in life of the cosmic laws so tend to get themself stuck, so could say more advanced souls sometimes come in to lend a helping hand or come into to challenge themself, it is open I am here to lend a helping hand.

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hello ats

I have a question regarding this material and the HH thread a few years ago.

So are we to believe that HH was actually miss informing or somehow got it wrong?

One of the contradictions is that hh stated that when harvest comes we will all know about it and made it sound like a magical experience, illuminator13 said most of up probably wont even notice it...anyone have any thoughts on this.

as I type this I hear the answer...it's look within and take from it what resonates.........?

Thanks in advance

Originally posted by doubledutchas I type this I hear the answer...it's look within and take from it what resonates.........?

That was one of the sentences that sticked out at once at me back then. Another was "The truth is always in front of your eyes and wants to be seen by you".

Really .... no kidding ... if you "hear" this answer it is because it is a truth of many that will lead you to one day to see and realize the whole picture. If it rings with you and won't leave your mind there's something to it. Doesn't matter if 7 billion people (who know # anyway) laugh at you.

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Thank you Deckard666. Funnily enough you have answered the other issue I have been thinking of, and that is how I deal with everyone else around me, most of which would laugh in my face was I to explain to them how I think it all works and my beliefs. Very helpful thank you.

On the whole 2012 thing I have actually come to the conclusion today that there is no point in wasting my time worrying about what happens, when...it's irrelevant.

I have been looking into meditation techniques to help me on my way, could you recommend one by any chance?

Thank you Deckard666

Nameste

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I am sorry I cannot help with meditation as it is not one of my tools. I never needed it I could simply can slow down into "observer" mode and get control over the ego. That doesn't mean mediation is useless ... I just have no use for it.

Namaste,

Deckard666