I could kill someone like this!

reply to post by Mr Mask


I'll be honest when I watch videos as evil and vile as the one I posted yes it does enrage me and the only way in which I can describe it is an ability to murder another person. Could I really? Who knows. Never been in the situation. But your views are EXACTLY what's wrong with the world today. There is no justice. Evil and injustice is spreading like a virus and a cancer over the world because the brave, strong, human beings willing to do violence against those willing to do violence against the innocent are silenced and sidelined by people like you. Let me put it to you in another light...........and you can judge what kind of human being I am........if ANYONE were to ever rape my wife or hurt my family you can bet your ass I would murder them. Violence is a last resort but it will ALWAYS be a necessary one in the right situation. That IS what makes us human. The ability to reserve end the life of another human being if need be. You don't believe in capital punishment? Fine! Look at our world. Look at our world throughout history. The only reason evil tyrants rise up AND THEY ALWAYS WILL AS LONG AS WE INHABIT THIS EARTH.......is because good men stand by and do nothing. Many on this board can sit there and dream about awareness, and this utopia where humans will suddenly wake up and learn to love each other. Well buddy it isn't going to happen in my measly hopefuly 90+ years of life. So I'll live in what we call REALITY and relish in the fact that I probably have the ability to protect not only my family but innocent creatures both human and animal who cannot protect themselves.

And I am a meat eater and I know plenty about animals and agriculture to know how to treat them and how to raise them with respect and a sense of honor. There is nothing wrong with eating meat. There is a right way to do something and a wrong way. And yes I've seen the baby chicken or chicken videos. They are disgusting as well.

jsut so you are aware
if you eat meat, your contributing to behaviors that parralell those shown in teh video(s).
maybe not that cow, or that chicken, but ones jsut liek them.
and for those that "get their meat form a freidn who raises tehm downt he road, and they suffer a quicka dn pinless death"
fvck off, its teh same thing.
dont fool yourself ionto thinking your above the cruelty jsut becasue its not a factory farm. the end result is teh saem, and you are still part of teh problem.

People like that should have to go to jail or pay a huge fine, and be exhempt from ever working in their field again. If that's all they can do, then tough luck for them, let them be jobless and starve to death for all I care.

reply to post by STFUPPERCUTTER


And what's the difference between a beautiful forest that is 100 years old and destroyed in a matter of minutes and a baby cow? You're thinking is typical of idiotic vegetarians. As human beings we are at the top of the food chain. With this comes responsibility. The responsibility to respect and honor our natural world because we are ALL PART OF IT and it is ALL PART OF US. Be it a cow or a tree........or a vegetable. There is nothing wrong with eating another animal be it a fish or a whale as long as it is harvested humanely and with respect. You COULD argue it's probably much easier to harvest a cow humanely than a whale and I would agree with you.

I like to think about the Native Americas who used to hunt the buffalo. Their ENTIRE WAY OF LIFE their whole essence relied on the buffalo. Without it they would parish. They honored the buffalo. And they used it in the utmost respectful way.......but utilizing just about every part of it. Did they kill them in a human way back then.......probably not I would assume. As human innovation and technology exists maybe we will be able to find a way to kill animals that is 100% human and that can eliminate pain and suffering. Because let's face it........it's not MEAT you have a problem with......it's the killing of the animal. But trust me human beings suffer just as much as animals. I suggest you walk around in a cancer ward and take a look around you. Thus is our world my friend.......one filled with pain and suffering. WE ALL SUFFER EVEN AS HUMAN BEINGS! Killing a cow with one quick deadly shot to the head in isolation is pretty human in my opinion.

Beating, skinning alive, cutting their throat when they are alive all the while calling them a "# box" is NOT respectful NOR human. So save your anti-meat rants for someone who gives a crap about being a vegetarian. I guess you don't eat eggs or drink milk either tough guy?

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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

But your views are EXACTLY what's wrong with the world today. There is no justice. Evil and injustice is spreading like a virus and a cancer over the world because the brave, strong, human beings willing to do violence against those willing to do violence against the innocent are silenced and sidelined by people like you.

From a hypocrite who eats meat, I can only say "how insightful on your character".

Now if you are done saying "people like me" are the problem with this world...I will match your slander with-

No...people like you, promoting crime as change, and hypocritical bias as belief are part of the problem. I conduct my life with great attention to my personal safty and the goal of changing the world for the better.

You promoting vandalism, theft and acts of terrorism (yes...breaking into work places and scaring the crap out of them is terror) is a PROBLEM.

Unlike you, I have organized many folks legally, speak openly to large crowds on serious issues legally, try to maintain a perspective of "anti-criminal-identity" and UNDERSTAND that provocateurs and disinfo-agents world wide LOVE to use emotional issues to sway them towards doing the things they need YOU to do so they can SHUT YOU DOWN AND SHUT YOU UP.

Look...If I am the problem here...then I am wasting my life that I have dedicated towards making people aware of the problems around them.

Thats fine...I can live with being wrong. But I sure as hell don't use an emotional issue to drag people into removing their freedom and legal-stand-point.

Look KID...get a lawyer fast. I know I have one and he is very good at keeping "our group" out of danger when it comes to law.

You keep pandering to people so upset with the world that they will RISE UP and bring chaos to their lives.

I wonder how many of your criminal activists remain so "heated and involved" from behind bars.

I'd say YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM...since your activities of "breaking and entering" in sake of "the animals" WHILE YOU EAT MEAT ALL THE WAY, is DANGEROUS.

Lord only knows what emotional idiots can do when they are allowed to gather other idiots willing to DO CRIME to DO RIGHT.

Eh...what do I know? Like you said, I am part of the problem.

Goodluck funding, maintaining and surviving your illegal crusade.

LUCKY FOR THE ANIMALS there are FAR LARGER AND EFFECTIVE organizations fighting the GOOD FIGHT and doing it LEGALLY. If their only hope was a bunch of terrorists like "those you posted" they would be better off dead.

Be safe...I warned you.

Crime is not the way for a leader to change the world.

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reply to post by Mr Mask


Oh brother..............acts of terrorism? LMAO! You're hilarious.

Now that I know you're a vegetarian your bias is completely obvious.

You're the type of person that cannot except the fact that the world is an evil vile place filled with people who wouldn't think twice about doing harm to you or your family. Leave the protection of good human beings to those who actually live in the real world.

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
Sometimes I wish there was some sort of secret group of men and women highly trained and highly skilled that fought the good fight for humanity. A group above government, never to be seen, caught, or heard from that in the still of the night dealt with the scum of humanity in their own way. Like that show Dexter. Nobody knew who they were or where they are...........but they are out there.......doing "god's" work, cleaning humanity of its own viruses and cancers. My childhood imagination gets the best of me sometimes. lol.

Indeed!

I have often wondered that too. Some sort of secret society of white-hats busy keeping the peace behind the scenes. Protecting people and stuff.

Hagbard?

reply to post by Mr Mask


And listen here OLD MAN........since you refer to me as kid.......I've NEVER BROKEN THE LAW OR ACTUALLY HURT ANOTHER PERSON for your information.

reply to post by MajorDisaster


But then there will always be the limp wristed panty waists of the world calling them terrorists and criminals

I guess America doesn't need a standing army to protect itself right? Cause after all the world is so peaceful and loving and who would ever want to do harm to us?

The Mask why don't you go ask the 11+ women that were raped and murdered by that Ohio serial killer??????????????????????????????????

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
I never get more enraged than when I see disgusting human beings who they themselves act like animals. I would have no problem treating these vile human specimens like they do these animals. Pulling off these guys' fingernails with pliers would be joyous compared to what I could do to them if I ever witnessed first hand something like this. I mean god...........it makes me ashamed to be a meat eater and a milk drinker. WARNING GRAPHIC!

www.humanesociety.org...

Topic creator, we are animals, and will always be animals no matter how intelligent we are...

And this is a lame thread. There are many more unspeakable horrors that go undocumented, unfilmed, and unnoticed every day.

I thought those pictures were mere logos, catchy signs to make a point- they are real terrorists? I thought it was just a gimmick.

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Then don't bother reading it or posting in it. It's gone 7 pages with lots of stars so others on here think it's worthwhile.

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
But then there will always be the limp wristed panty waists of the world calling them terrorists and criminals

Who, me? That would be a super dumb move, don't you think??

I personally am glad that the white-hats are out there doing their thing. Like Batman!

It's NOT their fault that CIA, Mossad, MI6, all those organizations are infiltrated by demons......

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

And listen here OLD MAN........since you refer to me as kid.......I've NEVER BROKEN THE LAW OR ACTUALLY HURT ANOTHER PERSON for your information.

I enjoy the title "old man"...thank you.

But I must apologize, I am scolding the guy who is "pro-animal-rights" and galivanting the terrorist-group that breaks into labs, steals animals, and then spray-paints the place with strong/emotional rhetoric.

I am sorry if I somehow mistaken you for the guy...it was my own stupidity indeed. Your name started with a Z, so did his. Yadda yadda...etc etc.

Anyways...You DID say I was part of the problem of this world. That "my way of thinking" is the crime here. That was my reasoning of singling you out.

I guess I mixed up my advice for the terrorist-animal-saver with my discouraging remarks of you saying "I was the problem with this world".

My mistake, and one noted and seriously retracted.

But...I will say, I am not the problem with this world as you stated. I've given up much to try and help stop the insanity that "can not be stopped" and I am ready to die for it.

Heck...maybe I AM part of the problem. Who knows? I guess we all just float down the river however we must, and no one ever thinks they are swimming the wrong way until they drown.

Well...I hope you accept my apology on mistaken you for the guy posting illegal-animal-liberation-groups. You can see how I was shocked seeing the animal-terrorist saying "he eats meat". Eh...all my fault there.

But...a mistake you made as well was saying "I am a vegetarian". Far from...In fact, I don't remotely care about a single animal, its rights or anything about "saving them"

I find it funny how many vegetarians think that "no meat" is the way! Let the system crash around them one day and see how many people THEY KILL just to get their dirty fingers inside a can of dog food...or worse...get there hands on my dog.


Again, humbly I apologize and "direct" my harsh words towards the "animal rights terrorist" posting pictures of criminal activities...not you.

Hope that can make up for me being wrong. If not, I understand. I personally don't like when people make simple mistakes either.

But it happens.

Be well and safe.

As they say, if you resort to violence, you aren't any better than those that do the violence, and in actuality you are much worse since you're also a hypocrite.

You know people, no one likes to think about nature it's self. Watch a pride of lions kill a baby elephant. It is more violent than anything you see on this video. Why do you not judge the lions? Most will say because we are more civilized. Well that's all fine and dandy but the only reason we are "civilized" is because some one will do the dirty work for us. The human race has become weak for the most part and needs to go back to it's natural roots every once in a while so that it can remeber what it truely is. We are the apex predator. PERIOD. Animals are just that ANIMALS. If they hurt then so what. It is not life altering. If you can't stand it, well don't research or watch videos about it. I do not judge you for your Un natural vegitarianism, so don't judge me for my natural predator instinct. Predators in nature do not care about weather or not they inflict pain. The only reason for a quick kill in nature is so as to prevent the escape of prey, not for the "humane" treatment of they prey. Until the human race evolves to have "cow" like teeth, we will still be omnivoirs. We as a species were also given the ability to rationalize and understand the difference between of our species versus other animals. Though all life is important on this planet, we should not treat other creatures as if they are human. If all of you activists would spend as much time and energy aiding the welfare of the human race instead of worrying about some animals feelings, the human race would advance further than ever before.

5 words

Top of the food chain.

I'm going to Wendy's now...

Just remember what goes around comes around. Karma is a _____ (fill in the blank)

I also have the problem that if i see a guy ( or gal ) doeing something bad to an animal... it makes me wanna... beat him to death.

But i´m fixing it, i learned that if you resort to violence you´re just as bad as them. Now i fixed it and can only feel pity for the guy and for the poor animal that suffered.

Plus you don´t need to resort to violence if you know that when the bastard dies it´ll go to hell.

Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
You know people, no one likes to think about nature it's self. Watch a pride of lions kill a baby elephant. It is more violent than anything you see on this video. Why do you not judge the lions? Most will say because we are more civilized. Well that's all fine and dandy but the only reason we are "civilized" is because some one will do the dirty work for us. The human race has become weak for the most part and needs to go back to it's natural roots every once in a while so that it can remeber what it truely is. We are the apex predator. PERIOD. Animals are just that ANIMALS. If they hurt then so what. It is not life altering. If you can't stand it, well don't research or watch videos about it. I do not judge you for your Un natural vegitarianism, so don't judge me for my natural predator instinct. Predators in nature do not care about weather or not they inflict pain. The only reason for a quick kill in nature is so as to prevent the escape of prey, not for the "humane" treatment of they prey. Until the human race evolves to have "cow" like teeth, we will still be omnivoirs. We as a species were also given the ability to rationalize and understand the difference between of our species versus other animals. Though all life is important on this planet, we should not treat other creatures as if they are human. If all of you activists would spend as much time and energy aiding the welfare of the human race instead of worrying about some animals feelings, the human race would advance further than ever before.

If you'd like to argue the circle of life theory, that is fine. yes, lions prey on their food-live animals. However, human beings are close relatives of the Bonobo Ape, not the lion. If we are to be our natural selves we would be eating much more vegetation, fruit, and the odd fowl or bug we catch. There are no humans who can use their teeth to kill a live deer or cow. No person is suggesting that we treat an animal as a human, however we humans are 'thinkers' we adjusted to 'beliefs' and 'ethics' that no other animal before us has done. If we know better than to be cruel towards others, we should exercise it. We don't have an excuse to act like the lion, b.c we were never created to be as such. Our ways are 'culturally' derived.

There are a lot of people with this preconceived notion that animal rights people do not care about people. People ARE animals and yes, we do care. I am from a family that fosters young who are from abused homes, I take part in giving to the homeless, I take part in shoebox christmas for children, etc etc..The people you see advocating for animals are probably not going to bring up every issue they take part in if it's not the time for that. To advance the human race we must first rid ourselves of cruelty. Advancement hs nothing to do with technology for me, it has to do with how we see the world we live in. We are too busy spending money on feeding farm animals to feed the children who are starving. Look into how much money is spent making CAFOS operate (confined feeding operations), and how much of those resources could go into helping distribute our food and money better-at a lower cost. Animal Rights and human rights ar increasingly becoming linked together. Heck, we are even feeding cows grain and corn when they are grass eaters (even blood and meat). Factory Farms (CAFOS) is also related to pathogens/viruses, pollution, (have you lived next to one? you'll probably fall over from the smell), waste is dumped into our water supply as well (I've done research on violations in Michigan where they dump all the manure/chemicals into the water we drink).This new culture of food we've created is gross and affecting animals AND people. So please reconsider that animal issues are actually related to people issues as well. There's nothing natural about animal cruelty and these CAFOS.

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