America as we have known it will be no more.

Does anyone else see what is going on? I fear that most people have shrugged off the current events as insignificant. When in fact all of the pieces are coming together like a puzzle. The WEB BOT predictions for November 25th – November 28th may not have been as far off as we thought., the results were just not immediate. We live in a society where we think things should come at mircrowave speed, even our demise. However this collapse has been slowly cooking for months now and is almost ready to be served up onto a silver platter.

I am fairly certain that the average American has no idea what is about to bring them to their knees and I hope for the sake of the children, the elderly and the disabled that I am wrong. Please be patient and read this in its entirety before you make a judgment. If you do not believe in the Bible that is fine simply omit the Biblical references and read for your sake about the near future of our nation. Please except this as a warning that if ignored has dire consequences. Please prepare your family for what is to come. Prepare yourself not only with lifes nessesities but physicaly and emotionaly as well. You will need every ounce of strength you can muster to pull you and your loved ones through the upcomming events.

In Revelations chapter 18 we read about the end times and the fall of Babylon. Verse 11 states: And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her for no man buyeth their merchandise anymore. According to Revelations chapter 18 this Babylon is a very wealthy and blessed place, in fact the most blessed of any other nation is history truly the land of milk and honey that was promised to us so long ago. Babylon has lived deliciously and became the habitation of devils. What other nation has been blessed more than anyother in history? What other nation in the last few decades has slowly went from a Christain foundation to one that is violent, greedy, full of malice, the murderer of innocent babies and the home for homesexuality? To me when I read of Babylon I read of America. This post is not intended to be based on religious prophecy so if you are a non-believer just humur me and think of this as a metephor in the story.
In 2008 many thought our Global Economy collapsed and indeed we experienced losses uneqivitable to our generation. But 2008 turned out to just be the start of a long downward spiral. If what I am seeing is even close to being accurate let me say that we ain’t seen nothing yet. This is not a half cocked prediction this information is fact and reality that many have just not peiced together yet into one cohesive future eruption.

As of today over 15 million Americans are unemployed with an estimated 6 million drawing Unemployment benefits. Today 7,ooo Americans lost their benefits and by December 31 another 1 million will have lost their benefits. All in all the total number of Americans without any source of income will be around 10 million by 2010 and please understand that this is if nothing else collapses, which I feel would be a fallacy. I am no expert but to me that is a lot of hungry, homeless, growing desperate by the day Americans.

Also today the Senate voted in favor of sending yet another extension of benefits to a final vote. If the Senate passes this extension for benefits then it means we have a little longer to prepare, it will not mean we have escaped the inevitable. You may ask what is the inevitable? The inevitable is a complete domino collapse from the inside out. In many respects the dominos started falling in 2008 but lets just say they will start to fall a little faster from here forward as each month passes. The inevitable is that people in the service industry will start loosing their jobs at a rapid pace because who will be able to afford to have their oil changed, go out to dinner, catch a movie, get that new hair cut, have their clothes dry cleaned or their car detailed? As more and more people loose benefits and still are unable to find work then more homes will be forclosed on, more auto and personal loans will not be collected forcing more banks into closing. I just do not see an end to this at all. The government has done a fairly decent job of holding the mud slide back with their trillion dollar bailouts but rest assured our backers are growing tierd and perpetualy broke bailing out the fat greedy American.
In October we were told that the FDIC was going broke. So many banks have went under that the FDIC is running out of the abiltiy to continue to back all the losses. November brought a second slap with CIT filling bankrupsy that will potentially affect 1 million businesses in America. Now think of the dominos; more jobs, more collapses in the area of the trucking industry, the cargo shipping industry, ground carriers, so on and so forth. According to the experts a brutal downturn in global trade has left shippers with idle capacity, billions in losses and even facing potential bankruptcy. I hope you are starting to see the bigger picture now.

On Octber 28, 2009 gold hit a record high of $1060 an ounce. Did you ever think in your life time you would see gold go over $500 an ounce much less over $1000? We are headed for extreme hyper inflation my friends. When I think of hyper inflation I think of Revelations 6:6, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; which translates into today’s terms as simply a loaf of bread for $20.

We have been mislead to believe that the mass of forclosures occurred in 2008. On the cotrary, 2009 has seen a 15% increase in forclosures from 2008. And if you think it ends there you are sadly mistaken, 2010 will see the greatest of all. As more jobs are lost and benefits end there will be more houses empty than occupied. Even the efforts of state and federal aid have failed to slow the record number and ever increasing foreclosures.

So in conclusion in 2010 we will have millions out of work with no source of income. Families with children will be living in tents in greater numbers than they are now. The government is broke so they will not be able to sustain everyone, our countries lenders are broke so they will not be lending America the money to sustain everyone. People will become desperate and crime will increase to mass porpotions. People will be growing hungry thus looting and stealing will become the common means for survival. Increasing numbers will be dieing due to the lack of medical attention. After all who will be able to afford life sustaining medicines like insuline or high blood pressure pills. The ever popular Swine Flu will be the least of our worries. Personal hygiene will suffer; increasing Staff infections and the breeding all sorts of disease and pests. Depression and other mental illnesses will go unchecked increasing suicide and homicide to a degree that will be uncontrolable. Then I fear that martial law will be put into effect in an attempt to gain control of the situation. That is when it is plausable that we will see people hearded up like cattle and placed into the FEMA camps located in every state. This is when Nazi Germany will seem like a field day, people who are not cooperative will be put down like dogs, and families will be seperated and America as we have known it will be no more.

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www.naturalnews.com...

www.usatoday.com...

www.cnbc.com...

www.startribune.com...:3aDhUxWoW_oD:EaDUiacyKU7DYaGEP7vDEh7PiUs

www.businessweek.com...

www.foreclosurepulse.com...

Google Earth; FEMA CAMPS, Each balloon represents a FEMA camp.

Empires rise and fall on the whims of time, it is simply now the US that follows Britain, Russia, France, Rome and Babylon into the history books.

But seriously, its a textbook societal collapse. Go read up on it if you don't believe me. Identical to Rome and all the others before and after.

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When a country's citizens are caring more with their beauty and wealth then with anything else what is surrounding them, when the citizens are believing everything what they hears and can't take up questions, failure and collapse is unavoidable. The United States is falling into this category.

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I don't know. I've been on this site for a pretty long time. And the doomsday and collapse of America threads have been ongoing since I remember. Granted, as you & others have pointed out, things don't look good for us right now.

However, we can all either sit on our hands and recite verses from Revelations... or we can do something about it. I don't think we are all a bunch of fat, lazy, greedy, self-indulgent slobs everyone wants & keeps making us out to be. There are many, many, MANY good, hard working, honest, caring individuals. The reason our country is great it because of its people, not its government. I'll give you the fact that our government is clueless...

However, its people WILL bring us out of this in spite of the government.

Just trying to spread a little hope for a change

Edit - Oh, and I don't think I'd bring up the WEB BOT anymore if you want to be taken seriously... what's it saying now about the 25th? Different than last month?

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Originally posted by mecheng
I don't know. I've been on this site for a pretty long time. And the doomsday and collapse of America threads have been ongoing since I remember. Granted, as you & others have pointed out, things don't look good for us right now.

However, we can all either sit on our hands and recite verses from Revelations... or we can do something about it. I don't think we are all a bunch of fat, lazy, greedy, self-indulgent slobs everyone wants & keeps making us out to be. There are many, many, MANY good, hard working, honest, caring individuals. The reason our country is great it because of its people, not its government. I'll give you the fact that our government is clueless...

However, its people WILL bring us out of this in spite of the government.

Just trying to spread a little hope for a change

Edit - Oh, and I don't think I'd bring up the WEB BOT anymore if you want to be taken seriously... what's it saying now about the 25th? Different than last month?

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Yes, things do not have to be as bleak as many of us make them out to be, and the US is compromised of industrious, intelligent and good people. The problem is it is also full of lazy, ignorant and bad people. It does seem like the fall the US is on the brink of would be a bad thing, but it may also eradicate the lazy, ignorant and bad people from power as those are the same people that live in greed.

As with the cyclical nature of the world we live in, the US as we know it may fall, but what comes out of it can only be bigger, better and brighter. The reason for this is that many of us are now learning the nature of the beast and will take measures to ensure the same mistakes as last time do not happen again. Just as the forefathers did in their time, the next great nation may have even more safeguards to protect from the consolidation of power and corruption of government.

Time will tell. My favorite words. I can say one thing is certain, and that is that the US will encounter changes that many if not most of its citizens never imagined would happen in their lifetime.

**Edit: I think the OP mistyped the November dates with the Web Bot reference. OP meant October. And FWIW I don't have the guts to mention it on ATS but I still am keeping an eye on it.

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"...but what comes out of it can only be bigger, better and brighter."

Well said. S&F

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But seriously, its a textbook societal collapse. Go read up on it if you don't believe me. Identical to Rome and all the others before and after.

I saw it coming over twenty years ago with all the leveraged buyout mirroring the roaring twenties., now my hubby finally believes me.

Of mergers and acquisitions each costing $1 million or more, there were just 10 in 1970; in 1980, there were 94; in 1986, there were 346. A third of such deals in the 1980's were hostile. The 1980's also saw a wave of giant leveraged buyouts. Mergers, acquisitions and L.B.O.'s, which had accounted for less than 5 percent of the profits of Wall Street brokerage houses in 1978, ballooned into an estimated 50 percent of profits by 1988... THROUGH ALL THIS, THE HISTORIC RELATIONSHIP between product and paper has been turned upside down. Investment bankers no longer think of themselves as working for the corporations with which they do business. These days, corporations seem to exist for the investment bankers....

In fact, investment banks are replacing the publicly held industrial corporations as the largest and most powerful economic institutions in America....

THERE ARE SIGNS THAT A VICIOUS spiral has begun, as each corporate player seeks to improve its standard of living at the expense of another's. Corporate raiders transfer to themselves, and other shareholders, part of the income of employees by forcing the latter to agree to lower wages. January 29, 1989 www.nytimes.com... New York Times

We are seeing the result of the trashing of good solid American companies by corporate raiders. Gillette in the 80's was a debt free, self insured company that even had its own power plant. Today it does not exist except as a sad memory of what an American company should be like. Gillette's demise at the hand of corporate raiders is what convinced me the USA was in terrible trouble.

When Obama/Congress doubled the money supply within three months at the beginning of the year I was horrified, especially when I realized the fractional banking multiply effect would cause runaway inflation.

I am amazed that the US government, in the midst of the worst financial crises ever, is content for short-selling to drive down the asset prices that the government is trying to support....The bald fact is that the combination of ignorance, negligence, and ideology that permitted the crisis to happen still prevails and is blocking any remedy. Either the people in power in Washington and the financial community are total dimwits or they are manipulating an opportunity to redistribute wealth from taxpayers, equity owners and pension funds to the financial sector. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury www.countercurrents.org...

Stewart Dougherty, a specialist in inferential analysis, agrees. It is now "statistically impossible for the United States to pay its obligations". www.silverbearcafe.com...

Whether you blame the leveraged buyout feeding frenzies of the 80's or the World Trade Organization “Free Trade” agreement of the 90's the result is the same America has been quietly sold off piece by piece. This is a sampling of the industries with over 50% foreign ownership, according to Source Watch

* Sound recording industries - 97%
* Commodity contracts dealing and brokerage - 79%
* Motion picture and sound recording industries - 75%
* Metal ore mining - 65%
* Wineries and distilleries - 64%
* Database, directory, Book and other publishers - 63%
* Cement, concrete, lime, and gypsum product - 62%
* Engine, turbine and power transmission equipment - 57%
* Rubber product - 53%
* Nonmetallic mineral product manufacturing - 53%
* Plastics and rubber products manufacturing - 52%
* Other insurance related activities - 51%
* Boiler, tank, and shipping container - 50%
* Glass and glass product - 48%
* Coal mining – 48%

A real eye opener isn't it. But it gets worse. The Department of Homeland Security says 80% of our ports are operated by Foreigners and they are buying and running USA bridges and toll roads. www.alabamaeagle.org...

Statistics showed in 1990,before WTO was ratified, Foreign ownership of U.S. assets amounted to 33% of U.S. GDP. By 2002 this had increased to over 70% of U.S. GDP. www.fame.org...

"An analysis of the 2007 financial markets of 48 countries shows the world's finances are in the hands of a few mutual funds, banks, and corporations. This is the first report of global concentration of financial power..." www.insidescience.org...

The harmonization of first world agriculture laws with WTO wishes resulted in a massive transfer of land ownership from private to corporate worldwide. But the greedy cartels running the World Trade Organization are not satisfied with part of the cake they want it ALL.

Up for grabs at the negotiating table is worldwide privatization and deregulation of public energy and water utilities, postal services, higher education and state alcohol distribution controls; a new right for foreign firms to obtain U.S. Small Business Administration loans; elimination of a list of specific U.S. state laws about land use, professional licensing and consumer protections, and extreme deregulation of private-sector service industries such as insurance, banking, mutual funds and securities. www.commondreams.org...

“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.” according to James Madison, unfortunately we serfs get to pay the price with our wealth and our lives while the bankers and their corporate friend consolidate their stranglehold on the people of the world.

The bankers cleaned us out in the crash of 1929 and now they are fleecing us again.
Checkout Secrets of the Federal Reserve We are mirroring the great depression but without our farms, crippled by regulations, taxes, adverse treaties and poor education I doubt we can recover as easily.

This time the bankers want one world government and they will punish us until they get it.

The only silver lining I see is the Tenth Amendment movement where states are starting to take back their Constitutional rights.

Originally posted by mecheng

However, we can all either sit on our hands and recite verses from Revelations... or we can do something about it. I don't think we are all a bunch of fat, lazy, greedy, self-indulgent slobs everyone wants & keeps making us out to be.

[edit on 3-11-2009 by mecheng]

I am really not interested in anyone taking me seriously or not it is whoever’s prerogative to do so or not. And as far as the fat American comment, I agree but many other countries refer to us as "fat Americans') or "crazy Americans') it was simply rhetoric.

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You are correct I did intend on the dates being October. Thank you for catching that

Originally posted by mecheng
I don't know. I've been on this site for a pretty long time. And the doomsday and collapse of America threads have been ongoing since I remember. Granted, as you & others have pointed out, things don't look good for us right now.

I feel like the proverbial long-time "stopped clock" that is finally right at last!

and here is her funeral hymn.


This will explain

Above Top Secret

Excellent post Mellissa.
SnF

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Thanks Randy, Your attachment would not open. Could you repost?

True story: In 1977 Ronnie Van Zant died in a plane crash, this song was played on the news in rememberance of Ronnie. I was three years old, this song made such a strong impression on me that I sang the chorus almost constantly after hearing it, driving my family nuts. This is one of my first memories of falling in love with a song so I like this one a lot.

Your sources are web bot and your personal interpretation of the holy book of one of the world's several hundred prophetic religions.

November 25th. Well, thanksgiving's on hte 26th, so something tells me i'll be enjoying turkey and cranberry sauce while you're looking in Revelation and WebBot for December's doomsday.

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."
Revelation 21:4

I predict that America will go on and no major earth shaking events will happen.

I also predict that if ATS is around in 10 years, someone will make a thread with the same exact title. I will then make an exact duplicate of this post if I am still around.


Every decade someone always think that America will collapse and so far they have been wrong. Odds are the OP and those who think the same are wrong too.

Originally posted by Bored To Tears
I predict that America will go on and no major earth shaking events will happen.

I also predict that if ATS is around in 10 years, someone will make a thread with the same exact title. I will then make an exact duplicate of this post if I am still around.


Every decade someone always think that America will collapse and so far they have been wrong. Odds are the OP and those who think the same are wrong too.

Perhaps...America is a very resilliant nation and has confounded critics for over 200 years. Europeans have been sneering that the Union would never hold ever since the First Continental Congress, and during the Civil War, it was a foregone conclusion in many circles. Before WWII, nobody thought a nation bursting at the seams with poverty-stricken immigrants would be able to forge the sort of meaningful collectivity necessary to fight a major global war, let alone win it...and folks have been croaking about economic ruin over the next horizon since the Panic of 1837.

I personally expect a long, slow downward grind. And of course, it depends on your definition of "collapse." In some places and according to certain metrics, collapse is already well under way if not at an advanced stage. But then again, that's not necessarily a new phenomenon, either.


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Oh there will be a long downward grind, but as always the American people will start a long upward grind.

America will confound critics within and outside our borders for many more centuries.

First it sounds like we sold the rest of the world a White Elephant!

Second when they realize they got suckered we can buy it back cheap!

Third please stop reading the Bible people, not a Christian in the land besides the Pennsylvania Amish even follow it's principals except to pretend every rotten thing they do and think will be forgiven if the go to church and pray now and then while they use it like a get out of jail free card.

Fourth, no America is not full of lazy or stupid people, but we are terribly divided and embroiled in internal arguments over very stupid things.

We could get run over by a train and still be arguing over whose got a birth certificate and who doesn't and who got robbed by what call in the world series and whether to breast or bottle feed!

Five this is a serious and credible attempt to bankrupt and divide us so a one world government can take over the planet. (thats yet another agrument that we are too busy having to stop it)

Six lets set a collapse date a little further down the road to actually give us enough time to collapse before another doom and gloom thread that just convinces people there is nothing to worry about because chicken little can't get her story straight!

Seven your lucky number fear not Protoplasmic Traveler is here and while the rest of you argue over what to get for Christmas this year I will save the world for the rest of you! No need to thank me, me and underdog keep the world safe!

Thanks!

40 million Americans are already living in poverty- as of last year- that's without taking into account current trends

www.abc.net.au...

America is too busy waging war to worry about looking after it's people.

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If we continue to buy into a stupid software program and its' "predictions", then we may as well lay down and die of fear.

I believe we can defeat this reality with the power of positive thinking and constructive action.