Crop Circle (pics)

TheManWithThePlan.



This is an old thread.

Lobos post is from 2002.

lol...thought that that wasn't the lobo that i knew......I was real surprised when I read his post

Cassini.


Thanks for putting all those links in one place.



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Got some great pics there and I thought it would be better to have them all on the same page and its also better without those idiots calling each other names. I`d like to thank the person who re started the subject I`d like to see more discussion on the crop cirlce phenomena because for one reason or another we do not get enough of it here.

(cheers for the link also)

oh, Crop Circles!! Goodie! One of my favourite mysteries.

Here, a link on scientific research of plant and soil anomalies found in crop circles:

www.bltresearch.com...

Shows just why some of them were NOT made by man.
IMO, crop circles are a natural phenomena which occurs only under certain conditions, something like Aurora Borealis.

oh, one more link, a very bizare but thorough analysis of Circles:

imageevent.com...

And last but not least, the post wouldnt be complete without an article from Science News Online:

www.sciencenews.org...

enjoy!

Natural Phenomenon? That made me laugh

Wait, are you joking?

Originally posted by HannibalSmith
Now the one with the car is surely extraterrestial

Possibly....and I know who you are

Originally posted by TheManWithThePlan
Natural Phenomenon? That made me laugh

Wait, are you joking?

You shouldnt dismiss that claim so easily.
Geometrical and mathematical patterns are common in nature, think of flowers, think of physics and what you've learned about waves, quantums of light( if you had physics in school). Math is the basic of universe and life.
Crop Circles could be some weird rare combination of magnetism, gravity, light, electricity. Balls of light have been seen in connection with crop circles. Maybe it is a wave pattern made visible.

"Natural Phenomenon? That made me laugh

Wait, are you joking?"

Its very easy to dismiss something out of hand without backing yourself up. Perhaps you have something to back up your assertions?

The geometric patterns of the universe work at the micro level. Not at this level.

How would this natural phenomen work?
The seeds in the grain cause the area around it to become positively charged. Then lighting strikes and a perfect geometric shape appears. The grain isn't burnt cause it has a certain unkown chemical in it. And, ummm, I can't possible explain how this would possibly work. Maybe you should look at the photographs again.

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Heres a few recent ones from the last few months...

Those new ones aren't from anything intelligent. It is just a natural occurance. Like lighting or gravity.

Originally posted by TheManWithThePlan
Those new ones aren't from anything intelligent. It is just a natural occurance. Like lighting or gravity.

Im not saying that i believe they are made by aliens,but they sure as hell don't look like no natural occurance to me..

then how do you explain the ones with more than just circles in em? i dont think you can do that with a plank of wood and string, do you? Also, the ones made completely of circles, lets say ones with 70 or more Large cicles and many smaller ones, I dont think 5 teenagers would be able to do that in one night, let alone complete the project because of its diffuculty

Uhmm...the ones with more than circles typically are either combinations of circles and arcs, or straight lines...(all of which are easy to do with string, a preset plan, and primitive sighting equipment (for example, a coat hanger wire loop affixed to a baseball cap.) Now, if one were to include a really intricate design, that wasn't geometrical, etc. then I might be impressed, but I've NEVER seen a crop circle that couldn't be explained as built by humans, in one, or a few days. Keep in mind also, farmers do not necessarily visit every single field they have each day. Also, they will more than likely have a set schedule in this. There is no reason to think that many of these couldn't have been done with simple tools, a few people, and some hours to kill...

Surely, if these were messages from creatures with the technical capacity to traverse the stars, they could find a better means of communication....

Originally posted by Gazrok


Surely, if these were messages from creatures with the technical capacity to traverse the stars, they could find a better means of communication....

That is what makes me doubt the Alien Theory too.
Have you looked through the links I posted, specially one about scientific research on these circles???? They are NOT made by simple tools. It is not about shapes and whether they can be made by men, it is about very strange PLANT and SOIL ANOMALIES, that cannot be caused by simple bending of crop. Read it, its very interesting.

Originally posted by TheManWithThePlan
The geometric patterns of the universe work at the micro level. Not at this level.

How would this natural phenomen work?
The seeds in the grain cause the area around it to become positively charged. Then lighting strikes and a perfect geometric shape appears. The grain isn't burnt cause it has a certain unkown chemical in it. And, ummm, I can't possible explain how this would possibly work. Maybe you should look at the photographs again.

[Edited on 7-9-2003 by TheManWithThePlan]

What is something works as an amplifier?
If I knew EXACTLY how this phenomena works we wouldnt be having this discussion now, I would be on my way to pick up some scientific prize

Anyways, as I said, the alien theory doesnt make much sense, research shows that they are not man made, that leaves us with an option of natural phenomena.

i haven't seen a crop circle that doesn't look it could have been made by some human. they are all simple geometrical shapes. as long as you know your math and geometry really well. you can do this.

i also have seen some cropcircles made by some teenagers. the circles definately wern't perfect, but it wasn't horrible. if some 17 - 18 year olds can do an ok job, just imagine what some university students who know there math really well can do.

here are some links to people who do cropcircles and other related things:

this one isn't a cropcircle really. it was an add for a company they did. it took only 4 people and 2 days
www.circlemakers.org...

here is another.
www.circlemakers.org...

now here's a more traditional cropcircle.. took 3 guys 4 hours to do.
www.circlemakers.org...

and here's one more i'll just toss in for fun
www.circlemakers.org...

now just imagine what a bunch of guys who know what they are doing with a well laid out plan could do in a night!

ok
1.)if they can't be man made
2.)the natural phenomenon theory makes no sense at all. I don't know what physics book you read. But there is no(NO) evidence to support your claim. Look at the pictures again. And again. And again...tell you know what I'm getting at
3.)must be aliens

ohh, and geometric shaped circles are the hardest to produce and the most likely to be from an unknown origin. The fact that to be a good geometric shape, it has to follow the laws of mathamatics and has to be precisely done. Something free form is much easier to do IMO.

oh dear.....


If I may quote here:

"More than 350 individual crop formations from multiple countries, over a 10-yr. period were examined...... The physical changes outlined below have all been determined to be statistically significant at the 95% level of confidence:

- Enlarged (both laterally and longitudinally) plant stem nodes (the fibrous "knuckle-like" protuberances found along the plant stem, technically called pulvini). Although these stem nodes are often both laterally enlarged ("fatter") and longitudinally enlarged ("stretched"), it was determined that the node elongation (stretching) was a permanent effect related to the formation energies, and this is the parameter now used.

- Stunted, malformed seeds and germination effects. There are four basic changes to the seeds and germination capability in crop circle plants documented so far. These radically different reproductive effects depend upon the species of crop involved, the growth phase of the plants at the time the crop circle occurs, and the composition and intensity level of the energy system involved (which appears to differ from event to event)

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- regular soil sampling was instituted at most crop circles sampled by the BLT Team. Subsequently, tiny 10-40 micron diameter spheres (and/or partially ablated particles) of unusually pure iron have been regularly found in soils from crop circle sites. Sometimes clusters of these very small, perfectly spherical, magnetic particles are found; sometimes larger spheres (40-50 microns in diameter), which are strongly magnetic, are discovered adhering to bits of soil covered, or inter-mixed, with a partially-melted glaze of the same material. "

TONS of pictures of these anomalies and further explanations and research can be found at :

www.bltresearch.com...

Now, I seriously doubt that a few bored old farts or crazy teenagers are able to produce this....

@ TheManWIthThePlan:

I see where you're going with your thoughts.
I guess we will know for sure after the first official contact is made we can ask the aliens if they are trying to tell us something with the circles....