Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine?

These figures are quite alarming, if 100% accurate.

Has this been confimed as the plague?

Principal of Ternopil Pedagogical University Vladimir Kravec: "In Ternopol yesterday night the streets were disinfected from airplanes using a special disenfecting solution. All citizens were adviced to close all windows at night."

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According to your map, it's not far from Transnistria at all. And the infected area is bigger than Moldova. Transnistria has very strict border controls, but if the flu gets in there, the Moldavian authorities still won't have access to the area. Unless they invade, or unless Transnistria let them in (won't happen).



edit to add: link to another thread (about Transnistria and Tiraspol).

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Pneumonic plague breaks from the quarantined areas, almost reaches Kyiv. In Irpin, a small city near Kyiv, 170 infected, 1 dead (in hospital No. 2) from pneumonic plague (a student from Ternopil). All roads are closed. Bus transportation stopped. Quarantine is introduced.
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irpin.at.ua...

Originally posted by ahemot
From sources in Ternopol: the authorities have recently opened the animal burial ground ("скотомогильник") in the territory of the Ternopol area under the Decision of the Ternopol regional council. The burial ground contained corpses of animals with plague bacillus activators. Septic and pulmonary forms of a plague proceed, as well as any heavy sepsis, with disseminated intravescular coagulation syndrome: occurrence of small hemorrhages on a skin is possible, bleedings from a gastroenteric path (vomiting in blood), the expressed tachycardia, falling of arterial pressure are possible. These symptoms completely coincide with those symptoms, which had the diseased in the Ternopol area.

Edit: added link to source
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WTF?
Opened the burial ground? For what? Renaissance Island has the same issues awhile back, improper disposal of biologicals that leaked into the local resource system.

Ok, anyone do the sim on this? Is it possible that an infected person has made it outside the Ukraine with an infection that would reach London, Madrid, Moscow... and how long will it take to infect the general population of the world?

Originally posted by ahemot
Principal of Ternopil Pedagogical University Vladimir Kravec: "In Ternopol yesterday night the streets were disinfected from airplanes using a special disenfecting solution. All citizens were adviced to close all windows at night."

poslezavtra.com.ua... de-–-tif/

But the remainder of this article says this...
Recall that during the press conference yesterday, Chairman of the Ternopil Regional State Administration Yuriy Chizhmar denied that last night was carried out disinfection Ternopol air.

I'm not saying that disinfection did not take place, but this was just a few extra lines in the same article. Why not include it? Pretty selective copying and pasting if you ask me.

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All train transportation in Ukraine to be cancelled.
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Comment: Ukraine is a transit country between Russia and European Union.

Originally posted by Luppakorva
reply to post by GypsK

 

If I'm correct, they haven't gone down. But they are not talking about UNKNOWN disease anymore as it was in the OP's first one in this thread. They are talking about H1N1 / A-Influenza. Why unknown, because they do not know it for certain.

I have not seen anything which proofs that 3000 dead which someone claimed.

So what do we have?

OP's words from mass panic, aerosole spraying from aeroplanes (which I personally can't understand how you're able to see it really), another from ground zero claiming they were spraying something from cars earlier this week.. Then we have OP saying people taken to hospitals in masses in Lviv and his teachers panicking (med school) earlier this week, some friends of his given antibiotics which would suggest they have no idea what to do, or they know exactly what they are doing and it's bacterial, not viral.

From the information what I have been able to gather, I think there is no mass panic, hospitals are full in some places though but they are NOT big hospitals. It's more like countryside with few doctors who are used to threat broken bones or such and who are not prepared to that they have to take in quite a few cases who they have no idea how to treat. Of course that makes people to write that "hospitals are full!!" ..but are they really.

By no means I'm not trying to put this down and say "move on people there's nothing to see" But these are SERIOUS claims and I really want some facts to back them up.


C'moon people let's sum it up

What else do we have?

I am with you on this one, there seems to be some BS going down in this thread.The 3000 dead figure is one of them.That badly translated link actualy said there was 3000 victims ,that could just mean 3000 people are ill.

Originally posted by LAPainter
This report is saying there 3000 dead in Ukraine. WOW

About 3 000 citizens of Ukraine, more than 1000 residents of Belarus, is not known how many Russian citizens - all of them were victims of an unknown virus. Real All..."

About 3 000 citizens of Ukraine, more than 1000 residents of Belarus, is not known how many Russian citizens - all of them were victims of an unknown virus.

I am not denying something is going on but not on the scale that is being inferred.It would be all over the news by now.

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All Universities in Ukraine closed for three weeks since October 31, 2009.

There is a claim of 1500 dead in this Pravda article
prawda.org.ua...
I speak Russian and that is in fact what it says,
Don't make it so of course. Just saying...



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A football match between Kyiv Dinamo and Milan Inter will go ahead as planned on November 4th in Kyiv.

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Comment: Despite the fact that all other mass gatherings of peaple are cancelled in Kyiv due to pneumonic plague. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of footbal fans will arrive from Italy to Ukraine. After return these people will spread plague in Italy and all over Western Europe.

Originally posted by ahemot
A football match between Kyiv Dinamo and Milan Inter will go ahead as planned on November 4th in Kyiv.

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Comment: Despite the fact that all other mass gatherings of peaple are cancelled in Kyiv due to pneumonic plague. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of footbal fans will arrive from Italy to Ukraine. After return these people will spread plague in Italy and all over Western Europe.

It's not like they don't have 4 days to call it off. They were probably just playing it safe before they call it off for good...

Originally posted by Hellmutt
According to your map, it's not far from Transnistria at all. And the infected area is bigger than Moldova. Transnistria has very strict border controls, but if the flu gets in there, the Moldavian authorities still won't have access to the area. Unless they invade, or unless Transnistria let them in (won't happen).

edit to add: link to another thread (about Transnistria and Tiraspol).

Transnistria and Tiraspol turf wars. Could the virus report be trying to smoke them out or is it real? Looks like 12 Monkeys politics and WMD.
I'm still curious about containment. When was the airport shut down? Roads closed?
Sheesh, those panicking over the swine flu will have a heart attack over this one when it hits mainstream. Good time to stock supplies while the shelves are still full I suppose.

Morning all,
I've checked the UK SKY NEWS, BBC NEWS and REUTERS UK sites again since yesterday and there is absolutely nothing about any of this. I've never known release of news to be so tight, even a search on google news for reports worldwide return barely anything. Remember also the huge amount of people that became infected in Belgium this past week - 40,000. Nothing coming out about anything over there either. Like many have suggested, the only real reason to be having such a clampdown instead of publicly screaming "swine flu" the world over like was happening a few months ago is that "something else" is potentially going down. If it was just swine flu then surely the PTB would want this shouted about to encourage people the world over to get scared and take the vaccine ??

Belarus closes its border with Ukraine due to pneumonic plague outbreak. Strict control regime introduced in the Minsk airport.
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Comment: Russia and Belarus have already introduced strict controls on the borders with Ukraine. So far no news from Poland, Hungary and Romania on border closing. Of course, the governments of these countries will do nothing without the orders from Brussels. Soon we could face a huge refugee crisis, when hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians will try to run from infested areas carrying pneumonic plague to EU.

www.promedmail.org...:1001:4058422260495668::NO::F2400_P1001_BACK_PAGE,F2400_P1001_PUB_MAIL_ID:1000,79885

Part of article . See link for full report and ongoing news .

However, Russia Today is reporting that it is A/H1N1 or Californian
Flu [i.e., the A/California/7/2009 strain from which the current
pandemic vaccines are derived - Mod.CP] and the total number of deaths
is closer to 40.

Prime Minister Timoshenko [of Ukraine] stated, "Express-tests cannot
provide a hundred percent verification of the virus; they give only 50
percent accuracy. That's why blood [samples from] those who died were
sent to special laboratories for further testing, and only this
morning it was confirmed that at least 11 deaths were caused by the
A/H1N1 [pandemic 2009] virus."

so is this possibly an act of war...biowarfare against Ukraine.....maybe by Russia as a warning about joining NATO?

Cant possibly understand why no western media is picking up these reports if all true.

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that article does not mention pneumonic plage
2nd line

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
so is this possibly an act of war...biowarfare against Ukraine.....maybe by Russia as a warning about joining NATO?

Cant possibly understand why no western media is picking up these reports if all true.

It's in the NY Times
www.nytimes.com...

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Originally posted by unicorn1

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
so is this possibly an act of war...biowarfare against Ukraine.....maybe by Russia as a warning about joining NATO?

Cant possibly understand why no western media is picking up these reports if all true.

It's in the NY Times
www.nytimes.com...

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That's not an article about pneumonic plague OR a mutated form of swine flu.

All that article really is is propoganda trying to say its the novel form of Swine flu causing these deaths and panic, when its really not.