Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine?

another question for you. on your profile you list biolevel 4 any connection?

I thought I should also post this link from earlier this year which has the story about the original outbreak in Mexico. If you read into it, it seems that every expert and their granny knew that this was going to happen in just the same way as the banking crisis happened, (maybe we should call that Bankers 'Flu) and almost for the same reasons. Anyway Smithfields choses to blame the internet bloggers, (that's us) for hyping the whole thing up

www.guardian.co.uk...

in the recent events re; my serious questions and inquiries in this swine flu uh; FORGOT MYSTERY VIRUS / I have asked specific questions and did multiple searches only to not understand how swine flu vaccine can be so trouble some for the MAJORITY. in a revealing video or two and several links and more people speaking up has this squalene deadly cocktail to be injected been put to light. In this I will try to re search all the areas i found but, in the light that a certain plant" may exist here I will try to bring forth all I can and the ingredients again. most of you know there have been video post past 20 pages back and others from canada speaking out on the death factor especially pregnant women also news from finland and polan; nuff said?

reply to post by BLUESHADOW747


No, you claim people have died from the vaccine. Your words.

It shouldn't be too hard to post a news article or something to prove it, so do it.

Or

You could stay on topic, "Ukraine news and updates" and quit trolling the thread. I'm not the subject of this thread.

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oh, do not worry ecoparity i will get info to this site and you take a great leap in being able to push your truth correct? again you got avaccine and are you having your child vaccinated and with what line of work are you invoved in?

reply to post by ZombieSlayer

I totally agree! I read ATS to get information that the MSM does not publish. I am really tired of the back and forth bickering . Please keep to updated information, not squabbles!

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When I was 12 my pediatrician told me we were due for a flu pandemic, that every 20 years or so one swept across the globe and killed quite a few people.

About 10 years ago, as an adult I had another Dr at a checkup tell me the same thing.

Everyone in the medical profession knew this was coming, it doesn't indicate they were in on some sort of plan and blaming "bloggers" for anything other than spreading rumors is just as foolish.

The agencies who monitor flu trends in livestock and humans detected the rise of this strain years ago. They knew we were close to another pandemic and even knew what strains would be involved. The only surprise was where and what time of year it actually broke out in pandemic form.

These companies that provide the monitoring of disease in the "bio-
survelience" system are constantly taking samples of emerging viruses and bacterial infections around the World and performing genetic analysis of them.

Part of their mission is to watch for incidents of terrorism or warfare using bioweapons. If a new threat suddenly appears they are able to tell us if it was a natural event or not thanks to that constant watch they keep.

IN KEEPING UP WITH THIS THREAD AS WELL AS POST INFO THAT MIGHT HELP EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO GET BEYOND THE BIAS THAT IS COMING FORTH AND VERY DECEPTIVE RESPONSES sorry about the caps but here are a few links and reviews to get started and these are just afew, the info regarding deaths and what has been found in these vaccines is forth coming but for those that are interested; Eco's comments / total denial of facts again on pages60 onon pg. 62 claims to have had illness or flu but no vaccine? pg.63 very intersting read; i like the part where SHE gets reports from er's,/drs,/pathologists/virologists and including sources from cdc and WHO? how can someone not directly connected or working for them have this kind of inside info? please read pg. 64 re: eco.s statements on her experience with squalene and re; vaccines/ pg.67 post by paxnatus eco,s statements " we have almost no reported deaths in elderly,mostly children and younger people pgs. beyond describes her stating "we did research and WE did that pg. 70 read post re;would be bomber joseph moshe and link/ nuff said?

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I can see through your lies. Your attempt to convince us that this is just a/H1N1 has failed.

I fear that a bio-weapon has been unleashed upon eastern Europe, and you are working to keep people in the dark as long as possible.

translate.googleusercontent.com...://www.moz.gov.ua/ua/main/press/%3FdocID%3D14086&rurl=translate.google .com&usg=ALkJrhjFHXR2eR-M_wRqcN1iyatcjKASIg

13/11/2009
All-Ukrainian Medical Associations, whose members are some 20 thousand doctors, politicians turned to the statement, which expressed concern about interference in the highly specialized medical topics. In a statement provided to the press service of Ministry of Health, in particular, that:

STATEMENT

Ukrainian Medical Associations (VULT)
All-Ukrainian Medical Associations is deeply concerned about the comments and statements of many politicians on the situation surrounding the epidemic of influenza and acute respiratory viral infections in Ukraine. Intruding into a treatment process, and trying to replace doctors, giving low-quality information and nefahovi comments, they worsen the situation. Unprofessional actions create excitement and bring havoc to society.

Dear politicians! Mind your own business! Remember that your dilettante expression can not destroy one human life! Using the theme for their own PR people's health is at least immoral!


Dear compatriots!
For the definition of preventive measures and treatment, consult only to specialists. Remember from your doctor to timely treatment depends on the safety, health and life you and your family. Only the union of the patient and doctor is the key to victory over the disease!

Press Service of the Ministry of Health for information VULT President A. Musa

I found this statement released from the Ukraine Medical Association interesting.

reply to post by BLUESHADOW747


Still waiting for you to post that proof to back up your claim that people are dying from taking the vaccines......

reply to post by downtown436


Yep you got me. U2U your GPS coordinates so we can have a plane come by and spray.....

Ukraine news and updates is the topic. If you want to debate conspiracy there are dedicated threads for that. Please post your specific examples of "lies" there, otherwise you're just another moron making baseless claims.

There must be a lot of money in fear mongering these days....

[edit on 14-11-2009 by ecoparity]

www.kyivpost.com...

Vaccinations against flu proving to be hard sell
Officials fear vaccine fears could make epidemic much worse.

In their efforts to contain an escalating flu epidemic and prevent a potentially bigger wave of infections early next year, Ukraine’s political elite and health-care professionals are desperately trying to revive trust in the nation’s vaccination program.

That trust was broken with a rare vaccine-related death of a child in May who was innoculated against measles. The incident sparked a nationwide scandal. In the confusion, hundreds of thousands of citizens refused to get vaccines for flu and other illnesses in the ensuing panic, sparking health officials back then to warn of a pending flu epidemic. And, as a result, a combination of seasonal flu and the A/H1N1 strain hit the nation particularly hard in recent weeks, health experts said.

Referring to the much-publicized vaccine scandal from early this year, Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko said on Nov. 9 that the country’s “vaccination program has been completely destroyed.”

“We will be faced with more difficult problems” if citizens do not regain trust in the country’s vaccination program in coming months, she added.

The socially disruptive measures – closing of schools and banning of public gatherings – that were introduced on Oct. 30 by Tymoshenko’s government helped to mitigate infection rates. Still, health officials said that as of Nov. 11 more than 1 million Ukrainians were registered with flu-related illnesses, while more than 200 had died since October 29.

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ihat's o.k. I am still waiting to know who you work for and about your vaccine and if you child was vaccined and what is bio level 4? as far as my info I will be forth coming

for those interested there is a you tube on ats today re; gary null speakly highly against swine flu vaccines and all others exposes the dark side of this circus!

Originally posted by BLUESHADOW747
reply to post by ecoparity

 

ihat's o.k. I am still waiting to know who you work for and about your vaccine and if you child was vaccined and what is bio level 4? as far as my info I will be forth coming

You've been promising that info for hours now.

This is what people do when they pull a lie out of their ass and get called on it. They start attacking the person instead of backing up their claims.

You LIED. You're full of crap and you think attacking me will distract people from that fact.

Stop stalling and derailing the thread, either post the proof or unplug your keyboard and stop trolling the discussion.

reply to post by ecoparity


you got a clever script but, well worn and used; also what do I have to gain or profit from bringing info as opposed to someone trying VERY hard to candy coat whitewash the swine flu vaccine and agenda?

reply to post by BLUESHADOW747


You know the questions he asked, basically for you to back up these claims your making seem fair to me. You claim to have all this knowledge yet you don't back it up with hard proof.


Also, why are you asking members where they work or if they, or thier children are vaccinated, what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

You are hijacking the thread with this crap man.

And as a response to the video you were talking about, the one talking about the vaccine being dangerous especially for pregnant women in Canada. My sister is 5 months pregnant and took the vaccine. She is just fine, didnt even wind up with a cold like she usually does when she gets the normal flu shot.

reply to post by ecoparity


I posted several comments and you have answered none! wow "seems I really hit some buttons there! what is wrong eco? people seeing through your deception/? no trolling here very concerned about human life as following your posts and TOTAL DENIAL all through these threads you are not showing what your agenda is except for big pharma dr n whoever and the decoy you try to set , people are being mislead by your deceptions and you've been called on it several times and as far as my keyboard goes? just like the vaccine and your propaganda I DO NOT DO THINGS ACCORDING TO you!

reply to post by BLUESHADOW747


Well you just advertised for Gary Null, yet another vaccine conspiracy pimp. Does he have any financial reasons for doing so?

Gary Null Alternative Health Products

Oh, look at that! Another source with money to make....

How do we know you aren't spamming for the snake oil salesmen?