Eating Animals is Making us Sick

"Truely man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds theirs. We live by the death of others: we are burial places! I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men." ~Leonardo da Vinci



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"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
"To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being."
"I should be unwilling to take the life of a lamb for the sake of the human body."
~ Mahatma Gandhi


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"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian." ~Paul McCartney

"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields."
"What I think about vivisection is that if people admit that they have the right to take or endanger the life of living beings for the benefit of many, there will be no limit to their cruelty."
~ Leo Tolstoy author

"While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth?"
"Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research."
~ George Bernard Shaw

"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't...The pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further."
~Mark Twain, author

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"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being."
~ Abraham Lincoln, 16th U.S. President

"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
~ Thomas Edison, inventor



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One farmer says to me, "You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make the bones with;" and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying himself with the raw material of bones; walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plow along in spite of every obstacle. ~Henry David Thoreau

Dear Lord, I've been asked, nay commanded, to thank Thee for the Christmas turkey before us... a turkey which was no doubt a lively, intelligent bird... a social being... capable of actual affection... nuzzling its young with almost human-like compassion. Anyway, it's dead and we're gonna eat it. Please give our respects to its family. ~Berke Breathed, Bloom County Babylon

Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway through my fishburger and I realize, Oh my God. I could be eating a slow learner. ~Lynda Montgomery

The human body has no more need for cows' milk than it does for dogs' milk, horses' milk, or giraffes' milk. ~Michael Klaper

Tongue - a variety of meat, rarely served because it clearly crosses the line between a cut of beef and a piece of a dead cow. ~Bob Ekstrom

Recognize meat for what it really is: the antibiotic- and pesticide-laden corpse of a tortured animal. ~Ingrid Newkirk

I will not eat anything that walks, runs, skips, hops or crawls. God knows that I've crawled on occasion, and I'm glad that no one ate me. ~Alex Poulos

We all love animals. Why do we call some "pets" and others "dinner?" ~k.d. lang

Animals are my friends... and I don't eat my friends. ~George Bernard Shaw

The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of "real food for real people" you'd better live real close to a real good hospital. ~Neal Barnard

My perspective of veganism was most affected by learning that the veal calf is a by-product of dairying, and that in essence there is a slice of veal in every glass of what I had thought was an innocuous white liquid - milk. ~Rynn Berry, quoted in Joanne Stepaniak, The Vegan Sourcebook, 1998

I just could not stand the idea of eating meat - I really do think that it has made me calmer.... People's general awareness is getting much better, even down to buying a pint of milk: the fact that the calves are actually killed so that the milk doesn't go to them but to us cannot really be right, and if you have seen a cow in a state of extreme distress because it cannot understand why its calf isn't by, it can make you think a lot. ~Kate Bush

Would you kill your pet dog or cat to eat it? How about an animal you're not emotionally attached to? Is the thought of slaughtering a cow or chicken or pig with your own hands too much to handle? Instead, would hiring a hit-man to do the job give you enough distance from the emotional discomfort? What animal did you put a contract out on for your supper last night? Did you at least make sure that none went to waste and to take a moment to be grateful for its sacrifice? ~Anonymous

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy

I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.... ~Henry David Thoreau, Walden, 1854


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A man of spiritual intensity does not eat corpses. ~George Bernard Shaw


Think of the fierce energy concentrated in an acorn! You bury it in the ground, and it explodes into an oak! Bury a sheep, and nothing happens but decay. ~George Bernard Shaw



You put a baby in a crib with an apple and a rabbit. If it eats the rabbit and plays with the apple, I'll buy you a new car. ~Harvey Diamond



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awesome quotes.
as much as it sucks knowing some people jsut dont have the ability to understand, its refreshing to see others who have changed the world do.

What separates me from vegetarians isn’t ethics or commitment. It’s information.

I was on the side of righteousness, and like any fundamentalist, I could only stay there by avoiding information. [Regarding her vegetarian days]

There is no place left for the buffalo to roam. There’s only corn, wheat, and soy. About the only animals that escaped the biotic cleansing of the agriculturalists are small animals like mice and rabbits, and billions of them are killed by the harvesting equipment every year. Unless you’re out there with a scythe, don’t forget to add them to the death toll of your vegetarian meal. They count, and they died for your dinner…

Soil, species, rivers. That’s the death in your food. Agriculture is carnivorous: what it eats is ecosystems, and it swallows them whole.

Rice, wheat, corn – the annual grains that vegetarians want the world to eat – are thirsty enough to drink whole rivers.

~Lierre Keith, The Vegetarian Myth

very solid countere quote there.
your dedication to this argument is noted.
go munch ona thick juicy sausage big fell, you deserve it!

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And your dedication to mockery is noted as it's quite evident in your continuation of posts like that.

You're only making yourself look bad. And you're doing a great job at it.

Big Fella???

-Dev

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Many Blessings.
Astute observations regarding the destructive forces of intensive agriculture.
Yet these methods are by no means necessary for vegan fare...anymore than factory farming for traditional plates.
What these two consitute is profiteering - one from the Earth, the other from its creatures.
And actually in this sense you are correct - what is required for the people and the planet is a relatioship with the Earth which sustains us - that is, farming and gardening...yet cities make personal farming near impossible, there has been an increase of community gardens, allowing some self-sufficiency among city inhabitants.
Finally, and some what agreeing - dietary preference (veganism) is a lifestyle choice, and does not, as the quote seemed to imply, equate to self-aggrandizement...the mind is capable of this regardless of whats in the belly.
A suggestion, as my friends have shown me, is to go into nature...learn of the herbs and plants in your local area and begin to forrage.
You will be completely surprised at what grows everywhere around us.


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...and with friends

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd

What separates me from vegetarians isn’t ethics or commitment. It’s information.

I was on the side of righteousness, and like any fundamentalist, I could only stay there by avoiding information. [Regarding her vegetarian days]

There is no place left for the buffalo to roam. There’s only corn, wheat, and soy. About the only animals that escaped the biotic cleansing of the agriculturalists are small animals like mice and rabbits, and billions of them are killed by the harvesting equipment every year. Unless you’re out there with a scythe, don’t forget to add them to the death toll of your vegetarian meal. They count, and they died for your dinner…

Soil, species, rivers. That’s the death in your food. Agriculture is carnivorous: what it eats is ecosystems, and it swallows them whole.

Rice, wheat, corn – the annual grains that vegetarians want the world to eat – are thirsty enough to drink whole rivers.

~Lierre Keith, The Vegetarian Myth

Most of the food we grow is used to feed animals we eat...

So that argument makes no sense.

Ancient Knowledge speaks today:

This is the teaching of the Chandogya Upanishad: “Mind consists of food. That which is the subtle part of milk moves upward when the milk is churned and becomes butter. In the same manner, the subtle part of the food that is eaten moves upward and becomes mind. Thus, mind consists of food.”

Chandogya Upanishad 6.5.4, 6.6.1,2,5
www.atmajyoti.org...

Anastasia saying in the Ringing Cedars Series:
"We must eat as we breathe."

+meaning Breath of Life...Prana...Life Force/Energy is carried with oxygen, so this is our actual nourishment.

-check out the ygis who live months with only air and sun gazing.


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Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
reply to post by STFUPPERCUTTER

 

And your dedication to mockery is noted as it's quite evident in your continuation of posts like that.

You're only making yourself look bad. And you're doing a great job at it.

Big Fella???

-Dev

the only thing in this thread that deserves mockery is your apathetic attitude towards teh slaughter of all the innocent creatures that did not do harm to you .
what happened in your life that gave you the right to decide teh fate of another creature? did god appoint you the power to remove life at a whim with no regard ?
how can you rationalize all that killing to satiate your pallette?

Originally posted by Jezus

Most of the food we grow is used to feed animals we eat...

So that argument makes no sense.

Corn, yes. Wheat, sort of. Rice, not really.

If we look at the two most popular choices of meat in America, chicken and beef, you'll notice that neither of them were designed to consume corn, and yet that is what constitutes most of their diets.

Cattle are ruminants designed to graze and consume grass, which is converted to saturated fat for fuel, not corn, which is converted to glucose. Chickens are omnivores that aren't designed to be caged and/or fed a vegetarian diet. Yet, this is what's fed to them.

Eating free range chickens, eggs and beef that are raised on their natural diet not only is healthier for humans but is pro-environment. It provides a balance that is missing from ecosystems.

-Dev

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Thank you for that. However, it just isn't relevant to the conversation at hand. And, you can pull ancient text all day long but until it's been observed, documented and reproduced it will not be accepted that a man lived solely on sun rays and air.

-Dev

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Although your post is completely off-topic, I have to respond to dispel misinformation presented in it.

Originally posted by STFUPPERCUTTER
the only thing in this thread that deserves mockery is your apathetic attitude towards teh slaughter of all the innocent creatures that did not do harm to you .

More accusations. So, you're mocking me, which adds nothing to the conversation, and your accusing me of indifference towards the life of animals? It's quite obvious you are losing this argument based on your continuation of trolling and attempts to bait me off-topic.

what happened in your life that gave you the right to decide teh fate of another creature? did god appoint you the power to remove life at a whim with no regard ?
how can you rationalize all that killing to satiate your pallette?

How many times do I have to remind you. Agriculture is killing WHOLE ECOSYSTEMS so you can consume a vegetarian diet. By supporting this, are you not deciding the fate of the organisms and nature itself? Are you not removing life to establish crops to feed your face? Are you not indirectly killing animals to satiate your pallette?

Try and stay on topic please. Derailing a thread is frowned upon around here, and your contributions are anything but post-worthy.

-Dev

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
reply to post by awake1234

 

Thank you for that. However, it just isn't relevant to the conversation at hand. And, you can pull ancient text all day long but until it's been observed, documented and reproduced it will not be accepted that a man lived solely on sun rays and air.

-Dev

Hi Dev! I just wanted to post this for you. it's really fascinating news.bbc.co.uk...

This man from South Asia was under observation for many days and consumed no food or water of any kind. He claims that he absorbs the energy he needs from the sun.

Prahlad Jani, a holy man, or fakir, who is over 70 years old, has just spent 10 days under constant observation in Sterling Hospital, in the western Indian city of Ahmedabad. During that time, he did not consume anything and "neither did he pass urine or stool", according to the hospital's deputy superintendent, Dr Dinesh Desai.

BBC did an excellent documentary about it.

Now that's very cool. Thank you for sharing. That would be a great thread topic.

But, to be skeptical, that was only 10 days. And what's more interesting is lack of water consumption, not food. It's a great article, but it's irrelevant to the topic at hand.

-Dev