It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by Getsmart
Hi Someotherguy,
Thanks for your interest in my experience.
Was I unconsciously guided there, at that time and place, exactly at the moment where he would stroll by - in order to further pursue my inquiry into the Clone Conspiracy and its potential Alien components, which were otherwise a very secondary consideration ?
Originally posted by someotherguy
Yes, it's fascinating to me. I'm not doubting that you saw what you saw. Credo Mutwa & the guys at Montauk said they saw similar rept beings. The ones at Montauk even claimed to have worked w/ one. What I'm wondering is if you had the ability to see past some sort of holographic projection, or whether it even bothered to cloak itself like that. I'm wondering if there are other beings like this stalking the streets that appear to be ordinary humans. Just imagine :-o
I'm a spiritual person and believe the Lord works in mysterious ways. You may well have been shown this thing for some purpose, such as educating people about it as you are now.
Posted By: Steevin Harper On: 3/3/2010
l never took the reptilian information on board personally when l first read David Ickes book The Biggest Secret in early 2000, in fact l went off his work for the next 2 years after being drawn to his work in 1993 concerning secret societies.
The reptilian information he began exposing in that book mentioned lessoned his appeal for me because it was so hard to take on board as in WTF?, but l could see the connection, still l needed some kind of proof for myself personally which maybe other people do too l suppose.
Little did l know l already had the proof sitting right in front of me nightly as from the 29/01/2000 in a situation that l was to find was a set up in late 2002 when that someone sitting in front of me revealed himsellf to me when he shapeshifted, l wont go into the details here at all l find it a waste of time but what a enormous shock to the system it was to be over the next, almost 2 years and aslo what was to be the hardest time in my life.
l know no one else in my position except my twin, as planned.
Thats is all l will say on this post as l see in your writing something that l have recognized with experience, sort of been there done that not for them, never will be.
Attention seeking is what l see in the elite perhaps you should focus all your energies on them and stop wasting your time on the people you are in contact with at the ground level whom you can communicate with as with me here on our level, in the structure of society, l'm sure you'll find something in it but personally no way will you be in contact with them as you have been here with me....good luck.
THE body of a woman found floating in the sea behind an apartment complex in Cable Beach has been identified by police.
Jennie Gosbell, 44, of Hertfordshire, England, is believed to have drowned shortly before her lifeless body was discovered by a jet-ski operator on the morning of October 8.
Ms Gosbell was alone on holiday and stayed at various places in New Providence, the last being the Blue Water Resort, Guanahani Village, in Cable Beach.
Police say she went swimming off the resort beach when she drowned. Her body was found floating in front of the Carefree apartment building next door to the Blue Water Resort at around 9.30am.
Murder has been ruled out of the investigation.
Ms Gosbell's mother flew to Nassau from the United Kingdom to identify her daughter's body last week. She returned to England yesterday.
"...any human should not get near any of these reptilians. There is their evil nature, and there is no changing it, they are the most evil beings imaginable and they won't think twice about treating anyone in a most evil way."
"Humans and reptilians do not mix. Humans are not equipped to handle their evil power. They are so evil that they will relish anyone's pain, and would inflict it if they could, it's like a thrill to them, pain and the worse it gets the more thrills they get. They are like the eye of a whirlpool of evil, the power at the cenre that is pungent with evil."
"They are what the bible describes as Satan; the worst horror film would not succeed in getting across the intensity of evil that is them."
"We must understand reptilians are not to be known, they are not part of our interaction that we as humans desire for growth, we mess with reptilians and we end up destroyed. They are not us and not anything we need to understand."
"Reptilians are aliens with no emotions and experience difficulties in this area when they take over a human. This is particularly the case to novice reptilian hosts... Dracos are their superiors."
"...I believe they are warriors and ths "have to win" trait helps them win over others who are less intent on winning. They will harm themselves if it means they win... Rationality, and they are normally extremely rational, goes out the window... They are prepared to harm their organization in order to win hands down... As they get more superior within the organization they lose this and act purely rational."
"...reptilians hate humankind with a passion. They only want to see humankind dead. The hatred these beings have towards humans is incredible and they will do anything to destroy the human. Held in captivity they will take every possible advantage to kill a human - therefore they had to kill it. This describes this reptilian entity exactly."
"Looks up to winged dragons and would want to be likened to a dragon. I assume therefore that they are his superiors. Thinks he is one."
"Says he is expecting a reward from the reptilians of a hybrid body when they first colonise the earth, has described this to me. He said he would be the first lot there."
"There overall plan - they want this planet for themselves. ...The reptilians plan for us is to have us all implanted with a minute device. We will agree to this implant because it will seem better than not having one. In order for us to agree they are currently replacing cash with a card, this card will be made to seem insecure and subject to theft, we will then believe that a small device under our skin a financially better option. The whole world is to be implanted so that native cultures that do not bank are being or will be destroyed."
"The most likely way that the reptilians believe they will implant this device is via an identity card, and this will then be made to seem inconvenient, it will get lost and replacement will be difficult. We will agree to an identity implant as a solution to the problem of lost identity cards. This device will enable the reptilians to kill us and they plan to do this when everyone in the globe is implanted. Ettissh says we will all be killed by electrocution via the implant."
"After we have been killed they will wait for 10 years and then colonize earth as a hybrid of a human and a reptilian. They are developing this hybrid using human DNA. The hybrid is described here."
Ettissh: "We will kill everyone off and leave it about 10 years for things to rot, so we don't have to deal with it. There will be a few thousand humans left and we'll deal with them. We don't want any humans breeding like rabbits, I guess we may allow some to remain, we are not sure."
Originally posted by someotherguy
That is pretty chilling that the ultimate goal of micro-chipping might be mass murder. Never thought they'd use it to electrocute people, but I guess i'm just not evil like that.
Originally posted by Getsmart
Originally posted by someotherguy
That is pretty chilling that the ultimate goal of micro-chipping might be mass murder. Never thought they'd use it to electrocute people, but I guess i'm just not evil like that.
There was suggested something having to do with those notorious chartoon Ninja Turtle warriors and it is true that there might be something to that modern fictional mythology, possibly coming from people in the know. The one I saw did give off the impression, by his physique, demeanor, stride and posture, of being some sort of super warrior, one bred to kill. That sounds pretty Ninja to me. His head was shaped more like a turtle's head than a snake head. And the skin although a bit scaly seemed leathery and thick like a turtle's. FWIW.
GS
Originally posted by TheLaughingGod
That description you wrote, really liked it, extremely detailed.. and scary.
If you would imagine their resilience in combat.. how powerful do you imagine them to be? Using fictional pop culture heroes or monsters for reference. Would a 30 round mag from a AK-47 even hurt that thing?
We need a Space Marine chapter to cleanse this world.
"In appearance, the serpent-gods were tall, at least 8 to 10 feet [2.5 to 3 meters], and walked on two feet. They had a tail like a reptile, and a tough hide somewhat like a lizard but with a large amount of horny or scaly skin. Their hide was generally lustrous and smooth, somewhat like a chameleon, and probably varied in different hues of green and gray."
"Their natural condition was to go around naked, but they wore clothing such as cloaks as a sign of rank or godship. Because of their need for moisture, they could not stand the direct sun which made their skin dry and uncomfortable."
"Their face was somewhat flat with chin whiskers or a goatee somewhat like a walrus or ibex. They had short horns on their heads which they considered to be a sign of divinity. Humans were repulsive to them because they were hairy, had soft skins and bony limbs. They were particularly upset by man's pungent smells and excretions. The gods did not eat cooked foods at first, but later depended on man to supply these needs. They did not need fires or stoves to keep warm."
"Early man or Adam was not too dissimilar from his creator, except he was smaller, had no facial hair nor horns. He was more agile and dexterous with his hands. He too ate raw food and ran around naked."
"The sons of the serpent-gods, the Nefilim of the Bible, which descended before the Deluge and mated with human women also dabbled in genetic engineering. Many strange and monstrous forms were produced and gave rise to the ancient legends of centaurs, griffins, satyrs, and all the ogres and fabulous creatures of mythology. These were all destroyed by the Deluge, but their memory lingers on in the ancient legends of mankind."
"The patriarchs, god-kings, priests, generals, and other members of the aristocracy which ruled Man before the Deluge and after as well, were also part saurian. They displayed certain characteristics which set them apart from ordinary people - large patches of scaly skin referred to as "the badge of priesthood," and probably had horns and chin whiskers."
"A GREAT CULTURAL SHOCK!"
"Mankind is probably not yet ready for the truth. The average man and woman need their fantasies - the myths and religious stories that make life so simple and uncomplicated. Perhaps one of these days we will be shocked into accepting the truth, when our ancestors return to see how their "children" are faring."
"Man has been conditioned for millennia to deny the truth of his ancestry and as a palliative we have developed a convenient form of amnesia."
"We have accepted the interpretation of history propagated by a self-perpetuating priesthood and academia. Nonetheless, the truth can only be delayed so long."
"Eventually Mankind will have to learn the truth about his origins and face the fact that his gods and ancestors were reptiles, truly monsters by any of our current definitions. There will be a great cultural shock as we have never seen before!"
Originally posted by Getsmart
HERE IS A QUOTE FROM Flying Serpents and Dragons by R.A. Boulay.
"Early man or Adam was not too dissimilar from his creator, except he was smaller, had no facial hair nor horns. He was more agile and dexterous with his hands. He too ate raw food and ran around naked."
"Man has been conditioned for millennia to deny the truth of his ancestry and as a palliative we have developed a convenient form of amnesia."
"Eventually Mankind will have to learn the truth about his origins and face the fact that his gods and ancestors were reptiles
Originally posted by GetsmartLet's hope that R.A. Boulay is wrong and has got it all backwards. But the being I saw tells me that his account is the one which, so far, comes closest to explaining that encounter. Aside from a Man in Black attack nothing out of the ordinary has happened, and I seldom even see a tall person.
GS
Originally posted by aorAki
Yep, I've had a look....but the physical evidence of hominid evolution is there for all to see...now, modern Homo sapiens sapiens has been around for what, one or two hundred thousand years, which is more than enough time for civilisations to come and go, especially when one factors in eustasy, glacial cycles and taking into account how much we have 'developed' culturally and technologically over the last two thousand years plus, so I'm open to older civilisations being highly developed, but as yet there is no physical evidence that would lead me to an alternative theory of human development.
I work in the field of Geology I must add, specialising in palaeontology and sedimentology and thus I feel I have an understanding of the development of the human race and a reasonable understanding of the mechanisms of evolution and hominid evolution.
I have not encountered anything here, or elsewhere yet that is enough to make me change my opinion on this.
I am, however, open to reasonable new evidence, and I do find this thread interesting.
IS THERE REALLY A MISSING LINK?
Man is a puzzle in the evolutionary chain. The scientific theories of evolution explain the general course of events that cause life forms to develop on Earth, but evolution cannot account for the emergence of Homo sapiens or modern man.
For almost a hundred years, anthropologists and other scientists have been searching for the so-called missing link, in order to bridge the enormous evolutionary gap that exists between the ape-man or Neanderthal Man and modern man or Cro-Magnon Man.
The appearance of Homo sapiens happened virtually overnight in terms of the millions of years that evolution required.
There is no evidence of intermediate stages that would indicate a gradual change from Homo erectus, the ape-man, to modern Homo sapiens. While the hominid of the genus Homo is a product of evolution, Homo sapiens is the product of a sudden revolutionary event.
The first being considered to be truly manlike is Australopithecus who existed in Africa some five million years ago. Then it took eons to produce the first primitive man or Homo erectus. About one million years ago he appears on the scene and is called Neanderthal Man.
Then suddenly and inexplicably some 35,000 years ago, a new race of men appeared from nowhere - Homo sapiens or thinking man which we call Cro-Magnon Man. He looked very much like modern man, so much so, in fact, that if he were dressed properly, he could pass unnoticed on the street of any city in America.
The Sumerians who arrived here before Homo sapiens existed provide the explanation of the sudden appearance of modern man. He seems to have been developed through two creative stages. Man was first conceived as a slave worker; at this time, he was mostly reptilian in appearance and nature, probably only one-third mammal.
The second change increased his mammal nature so that he lost his scaly skin and hide and could reproduce himself. He developed soft skin and hair and now required the use of clothing for comfort and protection. This is metaphorically called "the Fall of Man" in Biblical terms.
THE REPTILIAN APPEARANCE OF THE ANCIENTS
The Patriarchs of the Old Testament and the Sumerian antediluvian kings and priests were all part saurian, being the children of the mating of a reptile god and an earthling. This was also true after the Deluge when the kings were also semi-divine.
Probably the best illustration of this duality is found in the person of Gilgamesh. At the beginning of the epic, Gilgamesh is created by the mother goddess as two-thirds divine, being the son of a male earthling and a female goddess. Sargon the Great was also a "changeling" * as they were called, and was the son of a god and a priestess.
* NOTE: The modern equivalent term for "changeling" is "Shapeshifter".
They would definitely have had a reptilian appearance and, in certain respects, visibly reveal vestiges of their origin. This is shown in the adventures of Gilgamesh when, in his venture to the land of Shamash [Prince Utu], he is challenged by the guards at the gates of the mountain stronghold. Gilgamesh is instantly recognized by the saurian guards "as one of us," since "he has the flesh of the gods." He is allowed to pass unhindered since he is one of the aristocracy.
Evidence of man's origin in the serpent-gods was expurgated wherever possible. But where the priesthood had no control over the content of the material, evidence of man's origin comes through clearly.
Elsewhere in world mythology and history, the origin of man is not lost nor is it discounted. In China, the most ancient of books relates how dragons were the benevolent ancestors of mankind and taught him all the arts of civilization. In Hindu literature, the serpent-gods are explicitly mentioned as Man's true ancestors. Elsewhere, the flying serpents, dragons, and the feathered snakes are recorded as our beneficent creator.
The real story of Man's evolution and history is his alienation or estrangement from these origins. Recorded history is the story of the struggle of man to rid himself from the bondage of the children and the descendants of these serpent-gods, who plagued man from the time of the Deluge, about 4000 BC, down to the days of the Hebrew kings or 1000 BC.
WHAT DID THE ANCIENT GODS LOOK LIKE?
The space travelers found our antediluvian Earth much to their liking because it approximated conditions on their home planet. The climate was warm and stable, and more importantly, there was little cyclonic activity.
The carbon dioxide and the moisture level of the atmosphere was high within the cloud canopy. These conditions led to luxurious plant growth and giant animal forms. It was the era of the vegetarian dinosaurs. The coming of the Anunnaki coincided with the end of this period as the Earth began to dry out and the meat-eating dinosaurs and small mammals appeared.
The reptile gods needed moisture and warmth, and it was probably the reason why civilizations were founded at the mouth of great river systems - the Nile delta, the Indus river valley, and the Tigris-Euphrates system. The steady drying out of the climate brought discomfort to the Anunnaki, and they were forced more and more to live in an artificial environment - their orbiting space ship. While on Earth, they lived a great deal of the time in a personal capsule which simulated this artificial environment.
The home planet of our ancestors was probably also covered with a vapor layer of clouds. On such a rather steamy planet, it would be necessary to keep cool, and intelligent life there would likely evolve as amphibious and be at home in water as well as on land. It explains the Babylonian legend of Oannes coming from the sea. * It also explains Enki's residence in a water palace which appears to have been submersible as well.
* NOTE: This also explains the account of Reptilian creatures coming out of the Mediterrannean Sea from Nice to Genoa.
Their space ships would probably contain giant water tanks both for ease of living conditions and for protection from radiation on long space flights. Their form was remarkably adapted to space travel.
Scientists have theorized that the reptile form would be ideal for travel through space on long voyages. Able to hibernate or slow down their metabolism for long periods and immersed in a water or liquid environment, they could thereby survive the perils of space travel which have a deleterious effect on mammal forms.
"This is the first synthetic cell that's been made and we call it synthetic because the cell is totally derived from a synthetic (gene-bearing) chromosome, made with four bottles of chemicals on a chemical synthesiser, starting with information in a computer," Dr Venter said.
Author John Coleman claims Zbigniew Brzezinski is the author of the 1970 book, The Technetronic Era (commissioned by the Club of Rome) and that the book is:
...an open announcement of the manner and methods to be used to control the United States in the future. It also gave notice of cloning and "robotoids," i.e. people who acted like people and who seemed to be people, but who were not.
Originally posted by Getsmart
...CONTINUED
So please share with us your comments about these passages.
WHAT DID THE ANCIENT GODS LOOK LIKE?
The space travelers found our antediluvian Earth much to their liking because it approximated conditions on their home planet. The climate was warm and stable, and more importantly, there was little cyclonic activity.
The carbon dioxide and the moisture level of the atmosphere was high within the cloud canopy. These conditions led to luxurious plant growth and giant animal forms. It was the era of the vegetarian dinosaurs. The coming of the Anunnaki coincided with the end of this period as the Earth began to dry out and the meat-eating dinosaurs and small mammals appeared.
The reptile gods needed moisture and warmth, and it was probably the reason why civilizations were founded at the mouth of great river systems - the Nile delta, the Indus river valley, and the Tigris-Euphrates system. The steady drying out of the climate brought discomfort to the Anunnaki, and they were forced more and more to live in an artificial environment - their orbiting space ship. While on Earth, they lived a great deal of the time in a personal capsule which simulated this artificial environment.
The home planet of our ancestors was probably also covered with a vapor layer of clouds.
On such a rather steamy planet, it would be necessary to keep cool, and intelligent life there would likely evolve as amphibious and be at home in water as well as on land. It explains the Babylonian legend of Oannes coming from the sea. * It also explains Enki's residence in a water palace which appears to have been submersible as well.
* NOTE: This also explains the account of Reptilian creatures coming out of the Mediterrannean Sea from Nice to Genoa.
Their space ships would probably contain giant water tanks both for ease of living conditions and for protection from radiation on long space flights. Their form was remarkably adapted to space travel.
Scientists have theorized that the reptile form would be ideal for travel through space on long voyages. Able to hibernate or slow down their metabolism for long periods and immersed in a water or liquid environment, they could thereby survive the perils of space travel which have a deleterious effect on mammal forms.
Originally posted by GetsmartThe idea of humans being elaborated from Neanderthals combined with genetic engineering would need to be substantiated by professionals who have studied the differences in genetic makeup of homo sapiens and his predecessor.
Originally posted by GetsmartI'd much rather not agree with this author, but I did happen to witness in person that such entities do exist physically here on Earth (one unit accounted for thus far) and seem quite at home in our midst despite their terrifying demeanor. This does not fit the theory of a short term space visitor but moreso that of a longer term planetary host. Were he an experimental mutation created by the Industrial Military Complex then he wouldn't have been walking around with such assurance. Either a squad or intervention team would have been hot on his trail, or he'd have been slinking along the edges of the street, not taking the middle of the road.
Originally posted by GetsmartSo the idea that there was an ancient, ante-deluvian time of The Gods during which Alien looking entities ruled the Earth makes sense, otherwise, why would such efforts have been made to hide the distasteful truth from us, and why would the traces of Serpents and Dragons have been so fastidiously been relegated to the abstract realm of ancient myths and folklore?
Originally posted by GetsmartThis account is at least partly plausible, and ties in to contemporary research and eyewitness accounts. Some or most of it might be incorrect, but there has to be at least fragments of truth within this rendering of our early history. FWIW.