UFO Government Documentary Evidence ~ John Greenewald Junior.

Originally posted by stealthyaroura
..this man deserves a standing ovation.

Couldn´t agree more there mate - he´s a very intelligent and persistent chap.

paging debunkers of the cover-up

why is it that we don't see you around threads like this?

reply to post by mcrom901


Hey dude, long time no see and appreciate the bump - I know you´ve seen many of them before but there´s some other very interesting statements made about the UFO (and USO) subject here .

Cheers

reply to post by karl 12


deep bow matey... love all your threads and find it sad as to how so many ridiculous threads are being played out around here n the pseudo-skeptics just ignore the ones like this.... but we all know why

thanks a lot for that link.... will check it out...

reply to post by mcrom901


You won't see them anytime soon my friend, I gave up on them long ago. Even though threads like these deserve debate to it's fullest, your average pseudo-skeptic on this forum doesn't really have any interest in the UFO phenomenon. Instead, they hang around waiting for the silliest of stories to pounce upon and place their pathetic little flags as they ride their ego's off into the sunset spewing fourth arrogant drivel. If they did have an interest, threads like Karl12's would be overflowing with discussion, questions and analysis.

This is another great thread Karl, very well done as always my friend. I was only able to just read the first page here at work but I'm looking forward to some great reading tonight by the fire when I get home! The guys here at work love reading your posts as a couple of them have been turned from the stances "UFO's are silly nonsense dreamed up by insane people" TO "Wait a second, there's actually something going on that needs to be scientifically researched".

Cheers mate.

UFOs around atomic piles.
What is the attraction.
According to a theory of ether waves, the nuclear source of these explosions
must be felt by the UFOs.
Only ether waves can be felt by an ether air ship.

Hey thanks for the replies - those comments mean a lot and I know I keep on saying it but it realy is quite surprising just how many official UFO government documents are actualy out there - some of them describing some very unusual objects indeed.

Official police report into North Dakota UFO incident, August, 1979:

UFO hits police car ~ Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson encounter, August,1979

FBI UFO documentation, see link.

Link

love seeing this thread pop-up every now n then.... cheers buddy

couple of related posts....

Reporting UFOs - Procedures

The following documents were discovered by The Black Vault that pertain to reporting UFOs by the U.S. Military, Government and Commercial installations.

1. Air Force Instruction 10-206 [87 Pages] - Although contrary to what the Air Force wants you to believe, still on the books is the reporting procedure for UFOs. (Current revision: October 15, 2008)

2. Air Force Regulation 200-2 [8 Pages, 4.76mb] - This Regulation establishes procedures for information and evidence material pertaining to unidentified flying objects and sets forth the responsibility of Air Force activities in this regard. It applies to all Air Force Activities.

3. JANAP 146(E) [33 Pages]

4. UFOB - History of the 4602nd Air Intelligence Service Squadron, 1 Jan to 30 June 1955 [74 Pages, 3.76mb]

COMMUNICATIONS INSTRUCTIONS REPORTING VITAL INTELLIGENCE SIGHTINGS (CIRVIS)

5.1. Subject and Purpose. This report provides vital information to the security of the United States and Canada which, in the opinion of the observer, requires very urgent defensive action or investigation by the US and/or Canadian Armed Forces.

5.6.3.3. Unidentified flying objects.

air force manual 10-206

but according to dod's fact sheet....



www.dod.gov...

anywho tho norad is exempt from the foia in the us.... the black vault had managed to get various cirvis reports via 'access to information' from the department of defense in canada.....





www.theblackvault.com...

reply to post by mcrom901


Mcrom, that's a pretty awesome post matey.

Is the video in the OP working for you - the google video is still there but it looks like the embed function has been disabled:

video.google.com...

Cheers and have a mighty fine Chrimbo!

Posted by Infaredman - 19/12/10

Breaking news thread:

CBS News article~ UFO Reports Detailed in Classified Doc Release

Declassified UFO Documents from the NSA:

The documents listed on this page were located in response to the numerous requests received by NSA on the subject of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO). In 1980, NSA was involved in Civil Action No. 80-1562, "Citizens Against Unidentified Flying Objects Secrecy v. National Security Agency". Documents related to that ligitation are marked with "*"

link

Original files: New Zealand's UFO sightings:

Read original documents, released by the Government, recording UFO sightings in New Zealand

link

NICAP Official Documents

UFOs over Cape Canaveral - document sourced by Easynow:

UFOs & NUKES | Cape Canaveral, Florida: UFO Tracked On Radar Seconds Before Polaris Missile Launch; F-102 Interceptor Gives Chase





link

reply to post by karl 12


In the 1949 FBI memo in the op could the blacked out section be "Howard Menzel" - a meteorologist of some note ?

Menzel being an alleged senior member of MJ12, it's public face scientific debunker who contributed to many swamp gas / venus explanations for many cases.

Of course with it being blacked out it could be anything, but if I were a betting man !

Originally posted by chunder
reply to post by karl 12

 

In the 1949 FBI memo in the op could the blacked out section be "Howard Menzel" - a meteorologist of some note ?

Chunder, thanks for the reply and you may well be right about Menzel - it states in the article below that he was in the area around the same time and even 'expressed puzzlement' over his own sighting.... to which he later contradicted himself when he became a professional 'debunker':

Other astronomers besides LaPaz known to have sighted green fireballs in New Mexico during this period were Clyde Tombaugh, who in 1956 said he had seen three, and Dr. Donald Menzel, who sighted one in May 1949 near Alamogordo. In a letter to the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, Menzel admitted the phenomenon must be real and expressed puzzlement, wondering why the fireballs should be so confined to New Mexico if they were natural phenomena...... Menzel eventually became a famous UFO debunker, and in two of his books stated he was never puzzled by his sighting, instantly identifying the object as an ordinary meteor fireball

link

Cheers.

Memo to the Director of the FBI referring to the sighting of 'flying discs' by the Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California - August 26th, 1947:


PDF Link:

www.thewhyfiles.net...