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Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by ATH911
Weird how the coloring is so different in all the shots. You'd think the coloring would be more consistent.
Weird how the no-plane disinfo artists don't have the slightest bit of photographic knowledge or education. If they did, NPT wouldn't even exist. They think there were no planes because of the "different flight paths" when in actual reality there were just 40+ different camera angles.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
The no-plane disinfo artists also mention the different coloring in the different shots. This would be funny if it weren't one of the most stupidest things I've ever heard. No two cameras have the same contrast and color. Maybe if they were the same exact model with the same exact hardware and software, but that's as close as you get to getting the same contrast and color out of two cameras at the same time. I'm not even going to comment anymore on the absurdity and ridiculousness of the different colors in the different camera shots comment. So many different cameras from so many different companies and years and they all are supposed to be consistent with their contrast and color? You gotta be kidding me!
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Ath, what ever universe you came from, you should go back there because the things you and the other no-planers are bringing to this universe don't work here and nobody is falling for it. Not now, not ever. :dn
[edit on 20-10-2009 by _BoneZ_]
Originally posted by jprophet420
Not in the live videos that were aired on 911 on msnbc.com, nor in the archives.
Originally posted by talisman
reply to post by nwodeath
Google Video Link
Originally posted by Orion7911
Originally posted by jprophet420
Not in the live videos that were aired on 911 on msnbc.com, nor in the archives.
Right... and i take it you can back up that CLAIM?
still waiting.............. (insert jeopardy theme)
Originally posted by talisman
How could the Military stop people from having camera's on the day filming from so many different angles?
11-SEP-01 8:47 Stacy Horn
A PLANE JUST CRASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
11-SEP-01 8:49 Stacy Horn
Oh god. I'm shaking. A plane just went by my window, it was flying WAY too low, and I was thinking, "How ironic," I wrote about this in my book, and it crashed.
Oh God, people are dead now. Oh god.
11-SEP-01 8:50 Cathy
Where did you hear? I have the Today show on. No bulletin.
11-SEP-01 8:51 Stacy Horn
I SAW IT. It just happened, too soon for radio and TV.
11-SEP-01 8:51 Cathy
There's the bulletin!!! Oh God!
11-SEP-01 8:51 Stacy Horn
I'm freaking out. I called 911 and it was busy.
11-SEP-01 8:55 Stacy Horn
I didn't see the hit, I saw the plane go by (TOO LOW) and heard the crash which was AWFUL. Then I stood up and saw the big GAPING hole (I can see the World Trade from where I am.)
11-SEP-01 8:56 just charlene
There is a huge #ing hole in the side of the WTC!
11-SEP-01 8:56 starla
what kind of plane was it?
11-SEP-01 8:57 Ellen
I think I heard the crash all the way up here. Oh god.
11-SEP-01 8:57 Stacy Horn
Jet. A big jet.
11-SEP-01 8:57 Pez
It's on AM 820. NPR's FM signal has been knocked out and an eyewitness is now speaking.
Apparently it was an American Airlines jet. A real commercial airplane.
11-SEP-01 8:57 just charlene
someone guessed that it was a 737.
11-SEP-01 8:57 Cathy
The plane is in the building!!!! I can't believe this!!!
11-SEP-01 8:57 Pez
What do you think happened to the PLANE?? Where is it????
Originally posted by talisman
reply to post by Orion7911
IF there is NO RADOM FOOTAGE then the Military has near omnipotent power and I would wonder why they are *allowing you* to discuss this!!
The point of why the Military woudn't plan such a thing is not a baseless assertion, but goes to "explanatory power" in explaining the events in question.
*FACT* approx 600 thousand Muslims live in New York City, why did they ALL MISS THE FACT THERE WERE NO PLANES??
I would imagine that a lof them had their eyes glued to the events in question.
*FACT* 65000 Arabs live in New York. Did they all miss it as well?
The NO PLANE THEORY involves too many people, assumes that Military would KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT NO RANDOM FOOTAGE WOULD CATCH THEIR ACT.....
Can you explain how the MILITARY WOULD KNOW THIS??
[edit on 23-10-2009 by talisman]
They don't really "allow" us to discuss this, since they have hired hacks that contribute false info to every thread started on the No Plane Theory. We aren't really allowed to discuss this on ATS or Alex Jones or Anywhere, really. The fact that we are censored so heavily by supposed conspiracy theorists proves once again, we are up against the machine and the NWO.
Originally posted by nwodeath
Originally posted by talisman
reply to post by Orion7911
IF there is NO RADOM FOOTAGE then the Military has near omnipotent power and I would wonder why they are *allowing you* to discuss this!!
The point of why the Military woudn't plan such a thing is not a baseless assertion, but goes to "explanatory power" in explaining the events in question.
*FACT* approx 600 thousand Muslims live in New York City, why did they ALL MISS THE FACT THERE WERE NO PLANES??
I would imagine that a lof them had their eyes glued to the events in question.
*FACT* 65000 Arabs live in New York. Did they all miss it as well?
The NO PLANE THEORY involves too many people, assumes that Military would KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT NO RANDOM FOOTAGE WOULD CATCH THEIR ACT.....
Can you explain how the MILITARY WOULD KNOW THIS??
[edit on 23-10-2009 by talisman]
They don't really "allow" us to discuss this, since they have hired hacks that contribute false info to every thread started on the No Plane Theory. We aren't really allowed to discuss this on ATS or Alex Jones or Anywhere, really. The fact that we are censored so heavily by supposed conspiracy theorists proves once again, we are up against the machine and the NWO.
Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow
reply to post by Lichter daraus
********** The white dot is the smoking gun. *****************
The man filming the street construction turned his camera up to film the first plane hitting. This video is still on the net. It can be found
Your view is from the rear of the plane. You therefore can not determine the distance between the plane and the tower.
Zoom in and freeze when the first fireball appears in front of the plane, directly in front of the cockpit where you would expect it.
Note that the shadow of the plane is still off to the far right.
It is impossible for the plane to reach the tower before the shadow reached the plane.
Raise your foot up in the sun. Note it's shadow move away from you. It is impossible to put your foot on the ground before it's shadow reaches it. No matter how fast you move when your foot hits the ground the shadow will have connected.
The fireball begins when the shadow is still some distance to the right
The fireball begins BEFORE the plane reached the tower
If the plane has not reached the tower WHY IS IT EXPLODING?
Come on guys, how much more do you need?
Stop arguing the melting/softening temperatures of steel or the rate of fall of the tower compared to what it should be. The common man is not an engineer.
The picture you are asking about is a still showing the event in profile. If you get the video you will see a smaller dot (the beginning of the explosion) when the plane is still twenty feet away!
Let the mathematicians work out the EXACT distance and then plaster that picture and question everywhere. The layman will get it.
WHY DID THE TOWER EXPLODE WHEN THE PLANE WAS STILL TWENTY FEET AWAY AND NOTHING HAD HIT IT?
Here is the smoking gun you have been looking for. I can not understand why this point is being ignored in favor of things the average man in the street will not grasp. Do you really believe the lady who spends most of her time watching the home shopping network is going to learn about nanothermite to understand you point?
A series of pictures showing the explosion beginning when the plane is twenty feet away and the simple question "Why is it exploding if nothing has touch it?" Even granny will get it.
Originally posted by Orion7911
If this is all the debunkers got, i have no doubt nprt will continue to grow beyond expectations.
Originally posted by Orion7911
the visual evidence of fakery is irrefutable.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by nwodeath
They THOUGHT they saw an airplane. They could have seen a missile. There is NO proof for airplanes on 9-11, period.
It couldn't have been a missile because there's no missile in existence that has a 150+ -foot wingspan, nor do missiles travel as slowly as a plane. But you don't care about real facts in the real world. You just care about your disinfo and peddling it no matter how wrong you are. So sad...
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by nwodeath
There is much less proof of airplanes though
Yes, you keep saying over and over like a broken record, but you don't ever show any actual scientific or professional analyses.
You just keep typing meaningless text onto your screen, wasting space and bandwidth. Do you honestly think the people are going to believe there were no planes just because you keep saying so over and over? Show some proof or show yourself the door.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by nwodeath
When you can tell me where the plane wing disappeared to, i'll start to listen.
Go get you an old VHS camcorder and use an old VHS tape that's been recorded and deleted a couple hundred times. Let's see if anything disappears on it when you're recording. You haven't the slightest clue how cameras or camera angles work.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
When you can tell me how a bridge floats backwards, i'll start to listen.
Oh, you mean like this?
What that is is a helicopter flying around the Statue of Liberty with the camera focused on the statue. When a camera focuses on an object nearby, the background will appear to move faster than the foreground. On the opposite hand, if the camera were to focus on that bridge in the background, the bridge would be nearly stationary and the statue would be flying by very fast.
You can try the same test at home with a video camera. Walk slowly around a tree near you while focusing on the tree and watch the background move by quickly. Wow, that tree must be CGI!!!
This is simple camera 101 knowlege that I learned in middle school. Why didn't you? Why didn't you or any of the other no-plane disinfo artists try these camera tests before peddling disinfo?
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by nwodeath
When you can explain to me how a nose of an airplane can exit the rear of a tower before the front of the building explodes, i'll start to listen
There was no nose. There was no fake CGI nose because the pixels would have to match precisely:
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by nwodeath
When you can explain to me how 3 different videos can have 3 different flight trajectories, then i'll start to listen
That's called 40+ different camera angles of the same plane. They may appear to have different flight trajectories, but it's the same trajectory.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
You should do a simple Google search on "camera angles" and learn about how the different camera angles caused an uneducated person to think there were many different flight paths of the same plane.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
While you continue to waste space and bandwidth with your meaningless words, and while you continue to do everything but show us some kind of scientific or professional analysis of the videos proving CGI, you are caught in a direct and blatant lie.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
You said to explain to you certain things and then you'll start to listen. Those things were explained to you multiple times in multiple threads by multiple people. Not only are you not starting to listen, you're purposely ignoring what was explained to you Your agenda has been exposed. You blatantly lied about "starting to listen" and went back to spreading your disinformation like nobody said anything to you. Only disinfo artists with agendas ignore the facts and spread false information regardless of other peoples' input.
You're not looking for truth. You're looking to disrupt and troll, nothing more. Game over.
Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla
Originally posted by nwodeath
You wasted a lot of space. Nothing more, and your post was worthless.
The same could be said for your entire thread.
Have fun insulting those who disagree with your wild theory.