Ready To Revolt: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

What needs to be organized is a mass therapy session for many of these clearly uninformed and dillusional people who think their efforts will not be met with very deliberate and punishing force, they are going to let fear and unfounded reason get the best of them and then draw them into a situation they would never wish for, please save them from themselves, and please save the rest of us from these nonsensical fools, because what they believe will catch on and then draw everyone into their psychotic paranoid view of the world and the government, when will they realize they have always been owned from the start....geeesh, get real and think about it.

We can't go back to 1776 and we cannot go back to pre world war II and especially pre 13th, 14th and 15th ammendments, after each of those periods we ended up in Wars and compounded turmoil, too many people are trapped in nostalgia and the way history has portrayed the past and what defined the nation (baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and chevrolet ) or seeing Daniel Boone and Davey Crockett as superheros and are stuck in "How the West was Won" mode using it to define American idealism.

Time does not stand still and everything we see in our government really is a result of the changes in the society, the demographics, the diversity and the changing role of government to exert unyielding power over the growing size and population of the country.

Many of the problems we face are only a result of cumulative errors in judgement on the part of government, that are currently ramping to where many drastic changes are necessary to avoid a train wreck if we stay on the same course we have been on.

Had these measure been taken years ago it would not seem so drastic or appear as socialism and dictatorship as many falsly characterize what is happening, face it, simple democracy might work in a controlled, sanitized and predictable environment with small numbers and socio economic problems of low complexity, but when you match it to what we have in a country of the size and scope that it is now and the changes in the manufacturing base and power we once had no longer existing, it is showing signs that in a pure form it has flaws and must be restructured to match up with the country we live in RIGHT NOW.

Revolting over this is very drastic and it makes absolutely no sense for what will happen it will reverse more of the good than diminishes the bad if you ask me.



[edit on 20-10-2009 by phinubian]

Seems like a huge failure to me.

Their purpose:

"who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution"

Epic fail.

The idea that any government stupid enough to do any of the following, probably doesn't need to be protected from:

1) Sets off radically unconstitutional actions (Katrina-like) without selling it as a serious need. The Patriot Act comes to mind.

2) Would allow any publicly acknowledged objectors in their own ranks to run around spreading crazy ideas like freedom or to even attempt to disobey the prime directive.

3) Would not put crushing force down on the largest media conglomerates in the world to stem the tide of negative information.

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This is just a partial list, of which the Oath Keepers certainly fall into all of them.

If they actually wanted to be serious about this, they would get out of government service entirely. In fact, I'd suggest every one of the military members cease to be a part of the US military as soon as is legally possible and by any way they could without incurring legal wrath.

They could then solidify local militias, but I have serious doubts that Americans have any kind of backbone anymore (if ever really).

Silly US, WE think we're a free country, HA! We lost our sovereignty 50 years ago! Ref. Last AMERICAN pres., Eisenhauer. But anyway, what I wanted to let everyone know is they have already put us in concetration camps, (u.s. cities), we've been DRIVEN OFF THE LAND/HERDED (ref. farm-aid etc. in the 80s') into cities. All cities are ringed with observation camera systems including all non-paved access roads/routes(ref. 2 years ago when a wildfire(?) killed 5 firemen, they tried and covicted/sentenced to LIFE in prison(or maybe DEATH, I don't remember) a guy based solely on video evidense aquired through federal land perimeter telephone pole top camera footage showing him in the area around the time the fire started,(no actual testemony from human or anything else, just circumstancial preponderance, This type of evidence used to NOT be enough evidence to convict in criminal felony trials, only misdemeaner/civil stuff.)Yet, when dozens of civilians were MURDERED by a LOST/TOO LAZY/TIRED TO WALK OUT OF DEVILS' PUNCHBOWL CANYON(ironic) "hunter" of hispanic decent he was given PROBATION! Let go with NO SANCTION! 400,00 acres burned, thousands of homes burned, NO SANCTION! think about that! By the way I was there UP that night at the san diego country estates community center offering my expertise/assistance for whatever I could do in addition to driving to my friends/reletives houses to warn/wake them. It looked like HELL ON EARTH, the entire valley was ringed with fire! SO, you think you can trust Firemen/Police IN GENERAL, HA! who do you think it was in those videos in Pittsburg, Pa., etc., BUT, Maybe there ARE a few good one's out there so lets give them support until they prove us wrong EH?, who else can we rely on except our own selves. As for a dictator (ref. Lyndon Larouches' 10 minute video webcast, seen on this site a week ago or so), He says' that the NWO is going to humiliate/destroy/show him to be a weak pres. to trick us into demanding a STRONG leader/pres. in next election, just the way they did in pre-WW2 germany.THAT WILL BE THE START OF A DICTATORSHIP!! Be Strong/Prepare/Don't REACT to Propaganda, just watch/listen Be Ready to Protect OUR COUNTRY!! I say THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS TO BE "REFUSENIKS"(ick, terrible idiom?), DON'T BE PART OF THE PROBLEM, BE READY TO BE THE SOLUTION!! AND, AS A SERVICE-CONNECTED DISABLED VETERAN, "I" AM ALSO AN "OATH KEEPER", I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO THE NWO NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY/OFFER/PROMISE ME OR ANYONE IN MY FAMILY!! GOD HELP US

Originally posted by Keymaster1
Silly US, WE think we're a free country, HA! We lost our sovereignty 50 years ago! Ref. Last AMERICAN pres., Eisenhauer. But anyway, what I wanted to let everyone know is they have already put us in concetration camps, (u.s. cities), we've been DRIVEN OFF THE LAND/HERDED ...

I won't post your entire reply for the sake of grammatical sanity.

A few points for your benefit:

1) Please use the space and enter button. They are really handy for chopping up massive slabs of text into a more coherent post.

2) If you will never yield to the NWO, what exactly are these "Oath Keepers" really doing?

i.e. What's the point?

Originally posted by allgoodnamesaretaken
I believe it's time for a new Continental Congress, or many of them in the 50 states. We are very close to losing America completely.

It appears that 50 percent of the population is comprised of under-40s who have been brainwashed by the fools in the media and the "education" system, 20 million illegals who will soon be made voting pawns of the Demoncrat Party, racist blacks who support their savior Obama (95 percent of them voted for him) and militant Muslims who are recruiting in the prisons and the ghettos and will soon take over by reproduction and by the sword.

Add to that the fact that the globalists are about to declare a one-world government using the lie of manmade global warming.

We are inches away from losing the sovereignty of America. Patriots had better come up with a plan in a big hurry.

Bad idea!!!!, We do not need a Con-Con......It will open up the door to demolish our 1st and 2nd Amendment rights and any other amendments they want to change. With all the corruption in our Government now, and they have been for many years trying to have a Con-Con. States have requested a Con-Con and found out what really could happen to OUR Constitution, they retracted the request.

Pelosi and reid would LOVE to have a Con-Con right now.

Getting back to the subject in hand.....Good post OP. it looks like a lot of fellow Patriots are on board also.

There are A LOT of ex-military Personnel in the US, do you think that would have an impact on the situation at hand?, do you think we will stand by and watch our country be dismantled?.

The same people in charge today, were the same people back in the 70's, you do remember the 70's, gas shortages and rationing, avian flu scare etc;. After this Healthcare passes and Crap and trade passes, the Elites will try to ERASE boarders. they want everyone to be on the same sheet of music (i.e. Universal healthcare, all-in-one universal banking).

Who's to blame for this mess?......some will say the people, but it's not the people to blame, the people's vote's do not count, the Elites have the purse strings here.

I would look VARY hard at the Right(neocon's) or the Left(communist), then we trace the money, the Federal Reserve (which took us off the gold standard so they could print and print and print all the monopoly money they want), and the Zionist which controls the international banks and some here in the U.S. also.

I will not debate you on this, Republican or Democrat, but corrections will be just fine.

I leave with this to remember.....WAR IS NOT PRETTY!!!.

KrazyJethro, ya thanx, I'm new to posting,
I noticed after I sent,
looks like I'm RANTING,

Well, maybe I am, Ha Ha
But seriously, Oath Keeper like Info(don't know if he's an o.k. but he talks about the same thing.

youtube.com/watch?v=iYRfkXK13KM
Sheriff Mack, this guys a trip, scary that he started his career as a cop doing undercover drug investigation, check out the look he gives when getting serious, looks straight into camera - reminds me of a guy I knew in h.school who turned into a tweaker, then went straight but would get irate while talking about his ex who stole his son and fled to Oregon, scary cause I new his history, looks like Sheriff Mack has same look.


TISO_US, look at www.cc2009.us/
continental congress completely different thing from continental convention.
congress=good, does't involve current politicians
convention=bad, controlled/orchestrated by current pols'

[edit on 10/16/2009 by Keymaster1]

Originally posted by Keymaster1
KrazyJethro, ya thanx, I'm new to posting,
I noticed after I sent,
looks like I'm RANTING,

Well, maybe I am, Ha Ha
But seriously, Oath Keeper like Info(don't know if he's an o.k. but he talks about the same thing.

youtube.com/watch?v=iYRfkXK13KM
Sheriff Mack, this guys a trip, scary that he started his career as a cop doing undercover drug investigation, check out the look he gives when getting serious, looks straight into camera - reminds me of a guy I knew in h.school who turned into a tweaker, then went straight but would get irate while talking about his ex who stole his son and fled to Oregon, scary cause I new his history, looks like Sheriff Mack has same look.


TISO_US, look at www.cc2009.us/
continental congress completely different thing from continental convention.
congress=good, does't involve current politicians
convention=bad, controlled/orchestrated by current pols'

Your right KeyMaster, my bad. But it was good to know.

I am glad that we have people wiling to keep their Oath.

It is strange that our gov paints them to be a threat, when the only gov they;'d be a threat to is one that is violating the constitution and Bill of Rights.

reply to post by budski


Iam from Australia and am very concerned The people who know the truth need to unite across the world into one. Splintered groups with no organisation need to affiliate into one. How we achieve this goal is paramount to our survival. Anyone with any idea how to link up all the believers into a cohesive force?

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this group intrigues me. are they actually willing to go the distance and do what has to be done? or are they all talk. must investigate further. thank you.

So how long before they're all arrested under the pretext of terrorism?

This is the reaffirmation that I posted with the Oathkeepers web site.

My Personal Prospective On Taking a Stand against Unlawful Orders

In discovering this web site, I found a group of people that, like me are MOST concerned in their lives with the restoration of our (The) U S Constitution and the Rule of Law.

I believe that most of the current crisis we face as a Nation stem from the lack of Oath Keeping which is now prevalent throughout our County, State, and of course Federal Governments.

Many of our elected representatives that have taken the oath to defend the Constitution have apparently forgotten for whom they work, as well as the serious nature of their vows.
It is my opinion that along with the “D” or “R” after their names (certainly Ron Paul gets a pass here) it should read “For Hire”, or “Will Work for Election Donations“.

Our so-called leader’s lack of respect for We the People is destroying the very foundations of this Great Republic.

Therefore, we come together here at this site to restate our commitment to our Oaths to defend the Constitution for ourselves, our families, and for each other.
We also seek to remind those that are now in the service of this nation, that we are relying on you to stand with us in our defense of the Republic.
As OathKeepers, we will fight to defend our inalienable rights.
We do this because the selfless defense of the U S Constitution is instilled into the very character of our nature.

“We get it”!

We see the slow erosion of our Constitutional rights leading us directly down a path to enslavement in a tyrannical system of government.

It is now imperative that we all get past any “wedge issues” that might be used to divide us as one nation.
It is essential that we elect representative who will respect the U S Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land.

It is also important in this late stage of the game to remind those who might be used as a force against their fellow citizens that we are all on the same side.

Please do not be confused about the direction in which tyranny lays.

Have trust in me when I say to you that no matter what is promised you, in the end tyranny will not treat you or your family well; I guarantee it.

When we look at all of the forensic evidence throughout the history of the US, we become cognizant of the internal strife that has been perpetual in our society.
Those disagreements have at times evolved into violent conflict.
However, we as a Nation have always been able to hold this country together through those times for one reason and one reason alone.
That reason is of course the respect for, and dutiful application of Our U S Constitution and its Bill of Rights.

Our Republic can only stand if we uphold the principals of its binding contract with one another.
A contract which states clearly to me that I shall defend your rights as a Human Being to disagree (and I hope compromise) with me in a civilized manner.

In addition, as long as you reciprocate, by allowing me my Rights without infringement, and respect and honor my Personal and Individual Sovereignty we will get along just fine.


Although this country has gone through some very trying times, politically, socially, and economically, I think that the spirit of America has always been benevolent (until of late), and the pillar of Representative Government and Justice for the rest of the world.

Yes, we have had to disregard some of the historical reckoning from time to time.
Such as the collective disregard for our nation building, economic coupes, installation of dictators, psyops, false flag “events”, oh, and lets not forget eugenic experimentation on our own citizens.

Nevertheless, we were “looking good” for so long; what happened?

911/Patriot Act/Falsified Intelligence/ Warrantless Spying/ Political Extortion/Illegal and Unnecessary War/Outing Covert Agents/Billions $ missing from Iraq/$4.4 Trillion est. missing from Pentagon /$60 Trillion + in Toxic Debt/Wall Street Manipulation/Looting of the American Middle Class and the Treasury

I could go on.

Add to that the revelation that we DO in fact torture humans both directly and indirectly through “subcontracting”.
(Are we OK with this?
I didn’t think so.)

In addition to all of this, and according to the testimony of Sibel Edmonds, there have been cases of outright Treason in the sale of nuclear secrets to foreign entities by members of our own Congress.

Please check out the story by Indira Sing at worldinbalance if you would like to have an indication of just how deeply the corruption runs.
You will be shocked

But then again, maybe you will opt not to visit those sites because they are monitored by both the “good guys” and the “bad guys”.

There are so many failures by We the People to hold our representatives accountable, that they completely ignore the common cause, and continue their headlong rush into what Mussolini described as a Corporate/State…

Fascism

Unfortunately, we are (willingly or unwillingly) along for the ride.

The blatant disregard for the Fourth Amendment as revealed by the FISA fiasco.
Free speech zones?
Forced Inoculations?
Weapons confiscated during Karina!
Suspension of hideous Corpus
Media outlets acting as propaganda outlets and disinformation agents.

Bad things are being done in the name of paying the mortgage!

I am trying to remain as apolitical as I can here, because this is not a right verse left, republican verse democrat issue.

No, this is down and dirty Good vs. Evil.

This is ”The Golden Rule” verse human enslavement and suffering.

Once again, the “powers that be” are attempting to divide and conquer the people.
They are taking aim squarely upon our Rights and disregarding the Rule of Law as if it were some quaint notion from days long past.

I am not naïve.
I know that by making this statement here, and using my real and full name,
I am sure to be making a target of myself.
I do so willingly.
And with the belief that the outcome of my not taking a stand will be much worse than anything that will happen to me by taking a stand.
In addition, yes, I do realize that it could put my entire family at risk.
What an awful thought!
However, they, as well as all of your families are already at risk to a world spinning out of control.

I would like it to be known that as a former Gunner’s Mate Tech, USN, PRP (Personnel Reliability Program), Nuclear Weapons Handling Team, Background Investigations and Clearances you can be certain that I check out as a Patriotic defender of the Republic.

In addition, I do hereby swear that I only use the weapons that I possess for self-defense and the legal taking of game only.

I will end by reaffirming my sacred oath to defend the U S Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic.

The Sleeping Giant is “waking up and smellin’ the coffee“!

Thank You All for standing up for what is right, and for reaffirming your Oaths to the Document(s) and the Rule of Law.

“Endowed by My Creator“…

And NOT…

“By your leave, sir”

Sincerely,

of course I meant habeas corpus...
I can't afford a proof reader any more

must have been a Halloween induced typo
I would go back and edit that, but I found myself LOL at hideous corpus...
and you can quote me on that.

[edit on 20-10-2009 by The Wilderness Wino]

I think these Oath Keepers are very cool. I think about every time I have said the pledge of alegience since a child. Yes I believe in it like I believe in God. The government already knows I would die for my freedom and welcome a test of that faith. They know this because I sent an email to the White House stating that and a lot of other stuff. I will always side with the Forefathers and true motivated Patriots. I have always known something very wrong was coming up in the USA and have had dreams many years ago about a civil war in America.

The dreams get worse than that because, I dreamed that during civil war we get invaded. This was an oriental invasion. Then if not enough it will get nuclear. I believe I see the first stages of all these dreams I've had slowly coming to be. Buckle up and get ready folks we are about to embark on a nightmare. I have seen so much more but those can stay in the prophecies threads. Not many fun years left unless you love war.
GET READY TO FIGHT FOR YOUR LIVES!!! all of you. My best advice is get in shape and learn to survive in the wilderness and learn to fight.

I love the term " Don't tread on me" so cool...

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by Grayelf2009
Well I hope someone does something quick while there is still a America. Im ready mentaly and phyically, I hope. Im just ready to fight.

How do you identify the enemy? Please, a precise answer? Not some nebulous "anyone that tries to take away my freedom"

What does your enemy look like that you want to fight?

Well, it starts with "anyone that tries to take away my freedom" and includes the words " ,and points a weapon at me to do so." at the end.

Uniformed thugs are becoming a problem in most countries these days.

It just appears that the frog's water is heating a little faster in the US than elsewhere, where it is done slower so the frog never feels itself boil.

reply to post by seeashrink


A couple of weeks? Why have you only decided to join now?
Previously you had a president who ordered a unilateral strike on a sovereign nation based on lies?

You didn't have the good sense to join the oath keepers then?

I am bemused, as are a great deal of other people by this veiled racist hypocrisy and hate.

Examine yourself.

Where were these "revolutionaries" when the previous administration was busy running the country into the ground by being involved in crooked business and illegal wars?

It was the previous president who said the Constitution was a "goddamn piece of paper"... not the current one... Yet this group is all up in arms and making headlines about defending it...

That is why I laugh at this headline and story every time I see it... It's truly laughable...

I'm not saying everyone involved is of this mindset, but the majority are closet racists who are still bummed out because a black man is president...

Our Forefathers are rolling over in their graves... and it's not because of the current political status of the US, but rather the stupidity and ignorance of those that cannot see past their own party lines...

reply to post by SaturnFX

Why is it people whom complain about "the man" never decide to go and make changes anyhow...the answer is, they do. Almost every person you see in an elected office was a person whom felt passionately (at least at one point) about the country they live in and certain ideals..they made it their life to try and effect change. Now, some lost that love and now just stick in it for the power/bribes/a steady paycheck, and those are the ones that need to be voted out. So, if you truely are fed up with how things are, and want to revolt...get those banners ready and start your campaign for office, local or otherwise...or find someone whom you do believe in and help him/her out to get office. Otherwise, what you wrote of voting and sending letters, well, thats all you can do...oh, and of course yack about it on forums on the internet if that makes you feel better.

Too bad all them Black folk back in the sixties didn't get a chance to read your post. Maybe they could drink out of the same fountains, eat at the same restaurants, hold the same jobs, and ride the same bus's as us white
folk now...


Oh, wait , nevermind...

Originally posted by djusdjus
reply to post by seeashrink

 

A couple of weeks? Why have you only decided to join now?
Previously you had a president who ordered a unilateral strike on a sovereign nation based on lies?

You didn't have the good sense to join the oath keepers then?

I am bemused, as are a great deal of other people by this veiled racist hypocrisy and hate.

Examine yourself. [/quote

Are you kidding me?? Examine myself????
Does the word "assume" mean anything to you??
You step in judgement of me??
Offering an opinion and expressing one's self and the freedom to do so is one of the many things that make this country great. But when you start with the personal judgement of others then you begin to show the lack of faith you have in yourself. Please, disagree with me all you care to and will do the same with you and everyone else here, but I will leave judgement to Someone more capable.
Now to answer your question: I discovered Oath Keepers two weeks ago and it rang true with the decisions I had already made in my heart in reference to the Constitution and my duties.
You referenced the last president and his decision to attack Iraq and I couldn't agree more. In my opinion, it's about oil and nothing else. If the attack on Kuwait had been an attack had happened somewhere there was not oil the US would not have lifted a finger.
Personally, I was in the Army stationed in Germany during Desert Storm. We had not received any marching orders. A bunch of us were in a game room including a young luitenant and they were all talking about how they were going to Kuwait to kick some butt...oooyaahhh....etc. etc. I was quietly shooting pool when the luitenant (sp?) asked if I were ready to go. I explained to him that if sent I would do my job as told to do so. I then explained to him that if he wanted to be a hero and get himself killed so that when his little boy asked his mother why daddy died in the desert she could reply; so we can have gas for our car at $2 a gallon instead of $3. So I told him, go ahead and be a hero. Needless to say, I was not very well thought of after that conversation.
I believe your issues have little to do with the Oath Keepers and what we believe.
Seeashrink