180 Deg Slip/Strike Eq in SoCal???

Here's another one at the intersection of Garlock and San Andreas Faults...

This area is where I've had my eyes glued to for quite sometime... ~X~ marks the spot...

It's SW of the current epicenter, but, if enough energy is ~slid~ down the Sierra-Nevada and Garlock fault, with a push up from the Salton Sea area...it could be enough to pop something...IMHO...

quake.usgs.gov...

2.0 2009/10/04 19:47:50 34.941N 119.085W 10.5 12 km ( 8 mi) NNE of Pine Mountain Club, CA

1.6 2009/10/04 17:55:50 36.372N 117.876W 4.0 13 km ( 8 mi) S of Keeler, CA


[edit on 10/4/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Shirakawa


Hmm, now no wind noise I've ever seen looked quite like that in GEE. And you're still up against the same problem of symmetry with the wind. It's not symmetrical, and never that I have seen so far has wind noise generated patterns like that before.

There is some wind noise saturation at the moment at CWC, but I think that is separate from the weird, symmetrical patterns being displayed on the BHE and BHN channels. Also, the BHN channel has now gone to over 6 microns out of calibration.

It's weird though, there was just a small event near CWC and yet it seems to be displaying that event correctly, even if out of calibration... I dunno, you might be right on the wind noise...It seems like every time we get into one of these it's always wind noise. *shrug*

Edit:

Also, I did start the GEE tips thread here for those that wanted it:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on Sun Oct 4th 2009 by TrueAmerican]

if you LIVE in california, what should you do/prepare? i think thats the most basic question EVERYONE IS TRYING TO ASK.
what could happeN? what should we expect? not a bunch of new numbers that 90% dont understand.

DOES NO ONE READ the pages and pages of people still asking the SAME QUESTION

Originally posted by kaskade
DOES NO ONE READ the pages and pages of people still asking the SAME QUESTION

I dont really know anything about earthquakes either, but I checked out the home page to get some headlines for the data.

Basically the numbers mean a quake at a specific location:

MAG DATE LOCAL-TIME LAT LON DEPTH LOCATION
y/m/d h:m:s deg deg km

3.0 2009/10/04 07:19:09 32.941N 115.731W 16.1 15 km ( 9 mi) SW of Westmorland, CA



[edit on 4-10-2009 by Copernicus]

reply to post by Copernicus


2.0 (the richter scale) 2009/10/04 (the date) 19:47:50 (the time) 34.941N 119.085W 10.5 12 km ( 8 mi) NNE of Pine Mountain Club, CA (the location)

and i have no clue what to tell you cause i don't live in california and i'm not sure what area would be best. would be horrible if i gave you advice and it turned out to be worse or you had wasted your time and money to take my advice. so i'm staying out of advice giving on this one! my only suggestion would be to use your best instincts, pray, talk to friends and decide then

reply to post by undo


I was just looking at their site and found this out, but thank you anyway.

We'll see what happens in the next few days...

reply to post by kaskade

DOES NO ONE READ the pages and pages of people still asking the SAME QUESTION

What does it mean?

It means you should keep abreast of the the situation if you live near the affected areas prone to Earthquakes...

Local Radio/Police Scanners/ect...

What to expect?

A average to high probability of nothing, but, At the moment it seems to be calming down though...this is a good thing...

How to prepare?

Make sure you are stocked with at least a 3 day supply of essentials...

Water/non-perishable Foods/Changes of clothing/medications/tent/battery operated radio/ect (a BOB)

Be prepared for an extended stay out doors if you live in a dense residential area, as housing will probably be unsafe till inspected...

There are a ton of sites on preparation...

1.7 2009/10/04 22:17:28 36.391N 117.844W 4.3 11 km ( 7 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
2.5 2009/10/04 22:16:24 36.336N 117.800W 3.9 18 km (11 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.2 2009/10/04 22:08:09 36.020N 117.775W 3.6 16 km (10 mi) E of Coso Junction, CA
1.6 2009/10/04 22:00:50 36.394N 117.843W 2.9 11 km ( 7 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.8 2009/10/04 20:35:14 36.399N 117.836W 4.0 10 km ( 6 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA

Another area to keep an eye on...Salton Sea area...

quake.usgs.gov...

2.0 2009/10/04 21:16:41 33.164N 116.124W 12.3 2 km ( 2 mi) NNE of Ocotillo Wells, CA
1.7 2009/10/04 20:56:21 33.164N 116.123W 10.8 2 km ( 2 mi) NNE of Ocotillo Wells, CA
2.9 2009/10/04 20:11:59 33.167N 116.126W 5.1 3 km ( 2 mi) NNE of Ocotillo Wells, CA

[edit on 10/5/2009 by Hx3_1963]

That orange blob is the plot of all the quakes there in the last seven days.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5663a8295b0c.jpg[/atsimg]


LA is about 80 to 100 miles south of here.

1.4 2009/10/04 23:37:37 35.607N 117.455W 8.8 19 km (12 mi) SSW of Searles Valley, CA

Here are a couple of Scientific Articles on Earthquakes that might help some understand...

Seismic Waves
en.wikipedia.org...
www.seismo.unr.edu...

Richter Magnitude
en.wikipedia.org...
www.seismo.unr.edu...

wave propagation phenomena of a magnitude 7.8 earthquake on the San Andreas fault in southern California
video.scientificblogging.com...

SEISMIC SHEAR WAVE PROPAGATION:
A SYNTHETIC ANIMATION
epsc.wustl.edu...

Here's something I was looking at to try and describe the Horiz movements I mentioned...

Love wave
en.wikipedia.org...

~
Description:

The particle motion of a Love wave forms a horizontal line perpendicular to the direction of propagation (i.e. are transverse waves). Moving deeper into the material, motion can decrease to a "node" and then alternately increase and decrease as one examines deeper layers of particles.

[edit on 10/5/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Quit the BS here people.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Each year the southern California area has about 10,000 earthquakes. Most of them are so small that they are not felt. Only several hundred are greater than magnitude 3.0, and only about 15-20 are greater than magnitude 4.0. If there is a large earthquake, however, the aftershock sequence will produce many more earthquakes of all magnitudes for many months.

Quit it. This is another classic ATS fear monger thread.

My question would be do these signs correlate with the other larger earthquakes that have occurred before? Does the slip and fault occurrences have similarities with past incidents? Or are they new in themselves? Just something to look upon if possible to figure out....
I pray nothing happens in California, a massive Earthquake is the last thing that state needs.

[edit on 09/08/09 by antmax21]

reply to post by PenandSword
1.5 2009/10/05 01:06:55 36.377N 117.854W 6.3 12 km ( 8 mi) S of Keeler, CA

Each year the southern California area has about 10,000 earthquakes. Most of them are so small that they are not felt. Only several hundred are greater than magnitude 3.0, and only about 15-20 are greater than magnitude 4.0.

Hmmm...there's about half a years worth in a 3 days?

Move along folks...it does ~appear~ to be dying down for the moment...

5.0 2009/10/01 03:01:24 36.388N 117.859W 5.6 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
4.7 2009/10/02 18:09:18 36.385N 117.864W 0.1 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
4.9 2009/10/02 18:10:25 36.386N 117.867W 3.6 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
5.2 2009/10/02 18:15:59 36.393N 117.877W 0.0 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
4.0 2009/10/02 18:31:43 36.397N 117.858W 0.0 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
4.1 2009/10/02 18:30:31 36.405N 117.863W 3.5 9 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
4.2 2009/10/02 18:47:54 36.395N 117.855W 0.2 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
4.7 2009/10/02 22:31:57 36.395N 117.869W 1.6 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
4.5 2009/10/03 04:37:10 36.390N 117.873W 1.2 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA


3.5 2009/10/03 18:02:08 36.385N 117.868W 0.3 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.0 2009/10/03 10:52:31 36.395N 117.852W 3.2 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.1 2009/10/03 09:22:32 36.386N 117.876W 4.3 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.0 2009/10/03 08:10:35 36.386N 117.875W 0.3 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.0 2009/10/02 23:15:39 36.383N 117.881W 2.1 12 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.1 2009/10/02 20:11:17 36.410N 117.854W 1.8 9 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.3 2009/10/02 19:27:06 36.383N 117.853W 3.8 12 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.0 2009/10/02 18:56:00 36.387N 117.847W 4.1 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.3 2009/10/02 18:38:08 36.409N 117.862W 5.7 9 km ( 5 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.4 2009/10/02 18:33:35 36.404N 117.849W 2.3 10 km ( 6 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
3.1 2009/10/02 17:32:04 36.386N 117.868W 0.9 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.5 2009/10/01 08:08:12 36.394N 117.869W 4.0 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.4 2009/10/01 05:56:33 36.383N 117.844W 5.6 12 km ( 7 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
3.5 2009/10/01 05:55:55 36.377N 117.854W 2.0 12 km ( 8 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.3 2009/10/01 04:32:52 36.380N 117.861W 6.0 12 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.4 2009/10/01 04:32:23 36.389N 117.859W 4.2 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
3.5 2009/10/01 03:03:30 36.376N 117.860W 5.9 13 km ( 8 mi) S of Keeler, CA

[edit on 10/5/2009 by Hx3_1963]

I'm sorry but there WILL NOT be an earthquake in SoCal. The homeowners associations and IAC will not allow it. God is just going to have to file a petition with the HOA board and wait in line. Ha. HOA's in SoCal don't allow for anything that is original....it would lower the property value they painstakingly decided over.

Seriously this is a bit freaky. My sons school just 'Lost' his earthquake kit and are asking us for another one. Last night the idea popped into my head about an earthquake, and I never think about them. I hope these are not synchronicities.

Could this and the Yellowstone activity last year be related?

reply to post by LAUTERMILCH
Very doubtful YS and this are related...

Pretty much separate now...although long ago, YS traced a path from that area, NE to where it is today...

1.5 2009/10/05 10:39:56 36.391N 117.862W 3.7 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
2.0 2009/10/05 10:23:21 37.113N 118.304W 6.2 6 km ( 4 mi) S of Big Pine, CA
1.6 2009/10/05 09:30:42 36.395N 117.867W 5.7 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
2.2 2009/10/05 09:23:46 36.411N 117.844W 5.4 9 km ( 6 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.8 2009/10/05 08:28:44 36.399N 117.861W 4.1 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
1.5 2009/10/05 06:52:02 36.385N 117.862W 4.0 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
1.2 2009/10/05 06:08:04 36.397N 117.871W 11.2 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
1.4 2009/10/05 05:20:57 36.400N 117.846W 2.0 10 km ( 6 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
2.4 2009/10/05 05:07:43 36.391N 117.850W 3.5 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
1.3 2009/10/05 04:30:18 36.415N 117.842W 5.6 9 km ( 5 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.9 2009/10/05 03:56:16 36.409N 117.850W 2.1 9 km ( 6 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.2 2009/10/05 03:48:22 36.403N 117.858W 8.7 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA
1.0 2009/10/05 03:29:52 36.093N 117.906W 4.4 7 km ( 4 mi) NE of Coso Junction, CA
0.8 2009/10/05 03:17:31 35.781N 117.645W 5.2 18 km (11 mi) N of Ridgecrest, CA
1.2 2009/10/05 02:52:48 36.397N 117.845W 4.5 10 km ( 6 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.4 2009/10/05 02:39:13 36.371N 117.842W 3.8 13 km ( 8 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.4 2009/10/05 02:27:06 36.411N 117.847W 4.3 9 km ( 5 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA
1.8 2009/10/05 02:14:42 36.397N 117.850W 4.6 10 km ( 6 mi) S of Keeler, CA

[edit on 10/5/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Update:

I contacted the product manager at Caltech, who in turn contacted the tech for the station CI.CWC. He agreed that something was wrong, and issued a reset to the station, which I saw happen in GEE. But it is still displaying those symmetrical patterns, and is still out of calibration even after the reset. So I have emailed them again to this effect. I have more to back this up, including the tech who states "Your user is 100% correct".

Will update more as I receive word.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


100% correct about what exactly? The miscalibration?

reply to post by Hx3_1963


Hx,
Tried to U2U you, but site says too new. You can delete this post later.
I'm familiar with the upload process, but my only ISP connection is iphone and ats is greyingout the select file link. The only way is for you to send me one of email addresses. I have six to send. I'll include the comments in my reply.
Thanks,
Granite

reply to post by Vexatious Vex


Well read for yourself (contact details deleted):

CWC STS2 mass positions offset at 6.8V, re-centered.

This station is flagged with additional issues in seinetwatch.
Red warning for clock quality (can see below that its stuck at Q=1)
I'll see if I can restart the clock. If it was yellow we could let it go, but not in this case.
Also a red flag for sequence errors.

Thanks.
Alberto

BEFORE:
Station=CWC Digitizer=Q380
>------< freq;chan:data >-------< TAPE NOT IN USE >--<
80;1: 1661 1;1: 1354 80;2: -1793 1;2: -3104 80;3: 4228
1;3: 6071 80;4: 38999 1;4: 39000 80;5: 23863 1;5: 23860
80;6: -16558 1;6: -16555

A;09:111 A;10:193 A;11:138

< 09/10/05 18:29:05 0.014042 S? Q=1

AFTER much better:

Station=CWC Digitizer=Q380
>------< freq;chan:data >-------< TAPE NOT IN USE >--<
80;1: 32087 1;1: 41324 80;2: -4530 1;2: -4874 80;3: -39184
1;3: -54243 80;4: 38784 1;4: 38771 80;5: 23657 1;5: 23657
80;6: -16656 1;6: -16651
A;01:255 A;02:255 A;03:190 A;04: 0 A;05:189 A;06: 0 A;07:136 A;08: 0
A;09:127 A;10:122 A;11:138 A;12:123 A;13:191 A;14:193 A;15: 0 A;16: 0
A;17:160 A;18:160 A;19:160 A;20:123 A;21:191 A;22:193 A;23: 0 A;24: 0
>---< +=cal on *=det on #=both on, seedname, @=dacon, frame, processed data ---<
ACE:3 2149 HHE:6 -39184 LFC:4 2149 UCD:4 56861 UHN:1 -7055
BHE:5 -39874 HHN:7 -4530 *LHE:5 -54243 UCQ:3 40 UHZ:1 6120
BHN:3 -4427 HHZ:3 32087 *LHN:7 -4874 UF1:1 703 VEP:7 27.29
BHZ:5 32340 HNE:3 -16656 *LHZ:1 41324 UF2:3 0 VHE:1 107387
BNE:2 -16653 HNN:7 23657 *LNE:3 -16651 UF3:2 0 VHN:1 -12822
BNN:3 23658 HNZ:3 38784 *LNN:2 23657 UFC:2 8702 VHZ:1 -48704
BNZ:1 38770 LCQ:2 10 *LNZ:2 38771 UHE:2 17368 VK2:7 495
[free: 154 pri:18 hiQ: 9 xfr: 6836028 err: 0 syn: 0 tim: 8377187]
< 09/10/05 18:38:37 0.014042 S? Q=1

Yes Ellen,
The STS2 at this site mass positions are offset by 6.8V. above this sensor's range of 5V.
This station yellow warning was superceded by a red warning of clock quality in the SeisnetWatch,
therefore I did not see it in this morning's round of mass re-centering.

So your user is 100% right.

I'll proceed to re-center this STS-2 sensor immediately, and send a notification.

Thanks,
Alberto

At 10:28 AM 10/5/2009,________ wrote:
> Alberto et al,
>
> Could you look at the attachment and tell me if you see anything strange
> about CI.CWC as this user claims?
>
>
> My message:
> > If by time window you mean a span of time in which these readings have
> been occurring, they are currently ongoing as we speak now. And have been
> for the last at least two days that we know about. I have attached a
> picture so you can see what I mean. We are reading these from the program
> Global Earthquake Explorer (GEE), which as you may know provides a near
> realtime monitoring function (The Real Time Viewer) of most networks
> worldwide.
>
>
> > Can you give us a time window to look at? That way we can show something
> to the station technician.
>
> Regards,

There is something clearly wrong with that station to me, as I originally said. Still opinion, somewhat confirmed, but I am sticking to it. I have asked for additional clarification.

reply to post by TrueAmerican
Wicked game plan!

I'm looking forward to a ~clean~ reset/display, if nothing else, this should be a learning experience...and put a boot in my rear!

1.8 2009/10/05 12:40:32 36.394N 117.865W 5.0 11 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
2.3 2009/10/05 12:00:02 36.380N 117.858W 4.8 12 km ( 7 mi) S of Keeler, CA
1.8 2009/10/05 11:53:53 36.394N 117.845W 3.4 11 km ( 7 mi) SSE of Keeler, CA

...action does seem to be lessening though, so I'll take this a good thing...

Edit: Gowd now all 3 look terrible...BHE +8?/BHN -5?/BHZ +3? still...

[edit on 10/5/2009 by Hx3_1963]