(American Police Force) APF Just who are they? some answers here

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by invernal

 

I am stumped on the Richard Culver, and this company International SOS...they dont have much of a trail.

Usually a company like this will have a trail that you can find, and connected people...

I'm working on this right now, but I want to quit soon so I don't spend as much time as I did yesterday on it.

That Examiner article is just regurgitated from the Portfolio one...

Anyhow, I am finding *possible* Richard Culver links to UK. Also, his job description used to include something about EMEA/CIS. This means Europe, the Middle East and Africa for EMEA, and Commonwealth of Independent States for CIS (aka former Soviet Union).

I'd also look under "Rich Culver", "Dick Culver", and "Rick Culver", being careful not to get the wrong guy. I've already decided he's not the Rich Culver who tweeted "Wow ... Being asked to play bass in another really cool band."

Anyhow, my search is already turning up 3 current or past military affiliations in people named "Dick" or "Rich" Culver, and one Richard Culver who is "VP Global Security Operations". This is on LinkedIn.

Come to think of it, what if the Australian guy isn't Captain Michael's boss at all? What if researching variations of the name will bring us to an American ex-Colonel Richard Culver as already stated?

[edit on 1-10-2009 by invernal]

reply to post by invernal


see if you can find a richard culver that works for Xe, that would help jive with what prisonplanet is saying about APF being a front for Xe... it would back up thier evidence and confirm it.

reply to post by TheCoffinman


I'll check that out, but what if Miodrag was mistaken (or "mistaken")? Is that possible? Maybe he was a General, not a Colonel; or maybe he was Australian, not American, that kind of thing. For now I'll assume the description was accurate. You'd think someone in his position would get those kinds of facts right.

Edit: Wait. There's no way he could mix up an Australian and an American, unless he never met his boss.

[edit on 1-10-2009 by invernal]

Originally posted by TheCoffinman

see if you can find a richard culver that works for Xe, that would help jive with what prisonplanet is saying about APF being a front for Xe... it would back up thier evidence and confirm it.

Have you ever checked out the parents and other family members of the CEO and founder of Blackwater/XE?

Guess what industry finances that family?

Could it be....religions?

on their website they talk about extradition services, like they will go in comado style and extract anyone in a country where extradition to the united states is legal.

they also talk about having the capabilities of getting a BATTALION together in less than 72 hours.

A battalion is a military unit of around 1000-1500 soldiers usually consisting of between two and seven companies and typically commanded by a Lieutenant

[edit on 1-10-2009 by drsmooth23]

Well, here's the Richard Culver from International SOS on LinkedIn (can tell by the photo):
Link

Again, I don't think we know if this is the one, but I'm starting to think it really is! The company sounds so benign, but they are all over the H1N1, correct? So it'd make sense if this pandemic is the hoax some think it is, that they'd make use of security/health (what a specialty combo, I say) "experts" such as this one.

It lists his job as "Greater Los Angeles Area; Security and Investigations" and correlates with the one I mentioned above for "VP Global Security Operations". So there's the California connection.

LinkedIn says he's got 281 "connections". Is someone with a LinkedIn account able to look at those?

[edit on 1-10-2009 by invernal]

reply to post by drsmooth23


A United States Army battalion includes usually 3-5 companies, with a total of 300 to 1,200 soldiers, USMC is 500-1,200 soldiers

I posted earlier of my short conversation with the Superintendant, and after doing more research it appears as though the blocking the streets and handing out h1n1 fliers I can't verify, however the presence of APF and their police cruisers is certainly verifiable. They've got this detention facility for Federal prisoners and we don;t know where they are coming from, has anyone any information about similar dealings anywhere else in the country? This looks, from my paranoid point of view, a perfect place to house Red list people for questioning and torture. Manned by non-US citizens, we know how the Feds like to outsource torture, and being setup complete with a "training" facility for yet more mercs? I've got a really bad feeling about this going into this winter, with the unconfirmed news of renovations pointing fences inward at the Ravenna Arsenal in Ohio, which I haven't been able to confirm, things look grim. The shady dealings and the statement that "Mr. Peterson says everybody's gonna piss their pants when they find out who heads this company." from the Hardin Chronicler just adds to the not so good feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Sorry for another post right on the tails of the last but just found this, from the Billings Gazette, sorry if it's been posted,

However, an Associated Press search of two comprehensive federal government contractor databases turned up no record of American Police Force. Representatives of security trade groups said they had never heard of American Police Force, although they added that secrecy was prevalent in the industry and it was possible the company had avoided the public limelight. "They're really invisible," said Alan Chvotkin, executive vice president and counsel for the Professional Services Council.

www.billingsgazette.com...

reply to post by TheCoffinman


I'm quitting soon (I keep saying that ), but I noticed Democratic Underground is also digging for Blackwater connections. Maybe this will help. I don't know enough about Blackwater/Xe to get too into it today, that I can tell.

Blackwater discussion on DU

Originally posted by invernal
Well, here's the Richard Culver from International SOS on LinkedIn:
Link

Again, I don't think we know if this is the one, but I'm starting to think it really is! The company sounds so benign, but they are all over the H1N1, correct? So it'd make sense if this pandemic is the hoax some think it is, that they'd make use of security/health (what a specialty combo, I say) "experts" such as this one.

It lists his job as "Greater Los Angeles Area; Security and Investigations" and correlates with the one I mentioned above for "VP Global Security Operations". So there's the California connection.

LinkedIn says he's got 281 "connections". Is someone with a LinkedIn account able to look at those?

[edit on 1-10-2009 by invernal]

I can access his profile, but his "connections" list is locked.

He is currently "VP Global Security Operations" for the Fox Entertainment Group (20th Century Fox) in Los Angeles.

Prior posts include:

Senior Director, Security Services - International SOS Assistance, Inc.
Senior Director, Security Services, EMEA/CIS - International SOS UK
Platoon Commander - Australian Department of Defence
Platoon Commander - 5/7

Education - RMC

He has 'recommended':

Jeff Winton - VP, Global Accounts at ISA, Inc.
Neil Young - Owner, Neil Young Associates (Security & Investigation UK)
Michael McDermott - Director LACCAL Consulting Pty Ltd - Risk, Secuity, Crisis and Emergency Management - Australia

He has been 'recommended' by:

Lynda Vibrock - Regional Sales Director at ISA, Inc.
Michael McDermott
Neil Young

Viewers of his profile also viewed:

David Cameron - COO, Travel Security Services
Stuart Adam - Senior Consultant, Crisis and Security Consulting
Charles Langlands Pearse - Independent Security and Investigations Professional
Bob Rushton - Regional Security Director (EMEA/CIS) at ISA, Inc.
Craig McLay - Managing Director - MEA Region at Pinkerton Consulting
Jim Terrie - "internationally experienced analysit and risk management professional"
Rene Michau - Senior Business Leader in Sustainability and Finance
Justing Haddock - HSE Director at Fluor Middle East
Rebecca Rudman - Manager, Marketing Communications at ISA, Inc.
Jason Pagala CSP - Holiday Inn Galleria, Manila

And in some twisted way, he's listed as a 3rd layer connection of mine.

International SOS description from their LinkedIn profile:

International SOS is the world’s leading provider of medical assistance, international healthcare, security services and outsourced customer care.

With over 6,000 professionals operating in 70 countries, we help organizations manage the health and safety risks facing their travelers, global workforce and customers.

reply to post by larphillips


Wow, thank you! I still can't help but wonder if this is the right guy before we spend so much time on him.

So I wonder if he provides bodyguards to some people, then?

In any case, I find the entertainment links interesting. That's been covered on ATS before regarding the elite. Edward Angelino has Kim Kardashian on his friends list (may or may not mean anything in Facebook-land?), and now Fox Entertainment Group. Makes me wonder. I'm sure there are a lot more connections, though we could spend a lot of energy proving nothing if we follow random celebrities who happen to be vaguely connected, I think.

Gonna quit for now. Happy sleuthing!

Wow. That Becky Shay doesn't help their case anymore than putting the phony criminal "Capt" Michael multi-name-alias in charge. She's a doofus.

Originally posted by invernal
reply to post by larphillips

 

Wow, thank you! I still can't help but wonder if this is the right guy before we spend so much time on him.

So I wonder if he provides bodyguards to some people, then?

In any case, I find the entertainment links interesting. That's been covered on ATS before regarding the elite. Edward Angelino has Kim Kardashian on his friends list (may or may not mean anything in Facebook-land?), and now Fox Entertainment Group. Makes me wonder. I'm sure there are a lot more connections, though we could spend a lot of energy proving nothing if we follow random celebrities who happen to be vaguely connected, I think.

Gonna quit for now. Happy sleuthing!

I can only speak from my own experience as a former Hollywood 'suit,' but in the cases of Studio security that I've seen, they rarely provide direct bodyguard details for celebrities. Normally, each celeb has their own entourage that sometimes gets billed back to the studio, but never directly employed by them. The same goes for productions being shot on-location around the world. These productions hire from the outside and can usually bill the services back to the studio.

From what I was able to observe, the primary job of Studio security was to provide compound security at the various lots and buildings, as well as personal protection for travelling, high-level executives. There were also components of investigation and, in some cases, surveillance.

Billings news article detailing felony convictions of APF management:
Michael Hilton is a convicted felon

If you click on the "american police force" content tag you can pull up a number of local articles on this story.

Originally posted by larphillips
International SOS description from their LinkedIn profile:

International SOS is the world’s leading provider of medical assistance, international healthcare, security services and outsourced customer care.

With over 6,000 professionals operating in 70 countries, we help organizations manage the health and safety risks facing their travelers, global workforce and customers.

I can find many mentions of International SOS in search on LinkedIn,
but do not have a premium account. Does anybody out there?

Extended profile views might actually provide something conclusive.

Originally posted by gaborn415
I posted earlier of my short conversation with the Superintendant, and after doing more research it appears as though the blocking the streets and handing out h1n1 fliers I can't verify, however the presence of APF and their police cruisers is certainly verifiable. They've got this detention facility for Federal prisoners and we don;t know where they are coming from, has anyone any information about similar dealings anywhere else in the country? This looks, from my paranoid point of view, a perfect place to house Red list people for questioning and torture. Manned by non-US citizens, we know how the Feds like to outsource torture, and being setup complete with a "training" facility for yet more mercs? I've got a really bad feeling about this going into this winter, with the unconfirmed news of renovations pointing fences inward at the Ravenna Arsenal in Ohio, which I haven't been able to confirm, things look grim. The shady dealings and the statement that "Mr. Peterson says everybody's gonna piss their pants when they find out who heads this company." from the Hardin Chronicler just adds to the not so good feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Not to mention that the total size of the land which is part of the prison facility means it crosses over onto the reservation. That's sure to come in handy when / if they want to torture someone, all they have to do is walk them across the facility and they are outside United States jurisdiction.

While I see this as a perfect replacement for camps x-ray and gitmo the whole thing stinks. I know of at least one CIA prison which was located in Serbia, the purpose of it being for Serbian prison staff to torture detainees in ways the CIA won't even go hands on with.

Other areas of concern - "Constitutional free zone" status of Hardin now that facility is federalized and it's proximity to US jurisdictional border might explain how this private merc army can approach local residents and tell them to bring guns in to be "marked" with some sort of tracking device. For them to detain war on terror prisoners in that town all kinds of legal slick moves would be made which seem to fit with what we're reading. All I know is that this needs to be watched carefully, fought diligently by the state government and local residents and any breaches of the constitution should be taken to court immediately.

If I lived there I'd be moving somewhere else in a big hurry.

[edit on 1-10-2009 by ecoparity]

[edit on 1-10-2009 by ecoparity]

Even someone we have all heard before has something to say.

Originally posted by ecoparityNot too mention that the total size of land which is part of the prison facility means it crosses over onto the reservation. That's sure to come in handy when / if they want to torture someone, all they have to do is walk them across the facility and they are outside United States jurisdiction.

Wow... what a great (and terrifying) point. The answers to the question "Why here?" are definitely becoming more and more clear.